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ottffss1: So "Mastery" fauchard just dropped in Act 5/6 transition for me from the artisan. It has that sweet +cmd for moar trip all day long but a normal 2x crit multiplier compared to serpent's prince.

So is the Serpent's prince still the better weapon because of the 3x crit multi (especially on a 15-20 range fauchard)?

wait mastery specifically says "whenever the wielder hits with a combat maneuver (like trip?) mastery deals damage as if it were a hit" ...so it's better? If you trip all the time?
Mastery is for trip/bite build(s). Serpent price is a better dps weapon outside of that.
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ottffss1: So "Mastery" fauchard just dropped in Act 5/6 transition for me from the artisan. It has that sweet +cmd for moar trip all day long but a normal 2x crit multiplier compared to serpent's prince.

So is the Serpent's prince still the better weapon because of the 3x crit multi (especially on a 15-20 range fauchard)?

wait mastery specifically says "whenever the wielder hits with a combat maneuver (like trip?) mastery deals damage as if it were a hit" ...so it's better? If you trip all the time?
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InEffect: Mastery is for trip/bite build(s). Serpent price is a better dps weapon outside of that.
ok perfect...yeah the trip tank viv is there to trip so I guess I will switch to mastery. I mean the damage is nice too, but have anything trip over and over is better considering I decided to do cheese tripper party with the viv, jaethal built around trip and the kineticist companion you get....all of them have tandem trip at high levels.
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ottffss1: So "Mastery" fauchard just dropped in Act 5/6 transition for me from the artisan. It has that sweet +cmd for moar trip all day long but a normal 2x crit multiplier compared to serpent's prince.

So is the Serpent's prince still the better weapon because of the 3x crit multi (especially on a 15-20 range fauchard)?

wait mastery specifically says "whenever the wielder hits with a combat maneuver (like trip?) mastery deals damage as if it were a hit" ...so it's better? If you trip all the time?
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InEffect: Mastery is for trip/bite build(s). Serpent price is a better dps weapon outside of that.
also I really like your barb-trip / viv build with that scimitar you get later - "thundering claw of bear god" or whatever. really comes to life with the lightning strikes on natural attack hit.
@InEffect

that for you posts. I got couple of question regarding your builds. I hope it is not asked to often
- Why do you always add Crane riposte to two handed builds? Does it work with those still on EE?

Regarding build request. I was wonder if there is a build for Dex two handed? Ideally assimar char, to continue my current playthrow.

I was thinning about Curve Elven sword (since already start game with it) or any other exotic weapon to keep with a style of assimar as long as two handed.

Ranger or Sword Saint (to get proficiency) may be intresting but one is Wis,so monk can work, second is Int.
Post edited June 19, 2019 by dem87
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dem87: @InEffect

that for you posts. I got couple of question regarding your builds. I hope it is not asked to often
- Why do you always add Crane riposte to two handed builds? Does it work with those still on EE?

Regarding build request. I was wonder if there is a build for Dex two handed? Ideally assimar char, to continue my current playthrow.

I was thinning about Curve Elven sword (since already start game with it) or any other exotic weapon to keep with a style of assimar as long as two handed.

Ranger or Sword Saint (to get proficiency) may be intresting but one is Wis,so monk can work, second is Int.
Crane wing/riposte works with whatever weapons because game is balanced and has no issues whatsoever.
Well... if you want dex 2-hander - yes it will have to be curve sword.
Will need to ramp ab/damage somehow, so V12 is set for sure. Then you'd need Ro4 to get the finesse training. With 4 levels left, you'll be looking for more AB and monk AC, so, naturally, M1, slayer 1, something 2. That something would be either paladin or fighter. The former adds ab vs evil, which is not bad and the latter - feats.
There is also an option of V16/Ro3/M1 that will have to go for 13 levels without finesse training and would sack UD and stuff. Or V16/Ro4 that won't get monk AC. Really, it's not that hard to cap out on AC still, but will be harder for sure.
As to build requests - they are done in the topic next door.
Post edited June 19, 2019 by InEffect
Any chance you could make the Varnhold cleric merc into a full build?

Would be really nice to take a pet healer along in the main campaign.

Edit: Or would the build not work in higher difficulties and max lvl scenario?
Post edited June 19, 2019 by Xelran
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Xelran: Any chance you could make the Varnhold cleric merc into a full build?

Would be really nice to take a pet healer along in the main campaign.
I can, although, considering it's really best served being a merc, idk what format it'd suit. There is also a question of should it be gozreh to replace sylvan sorc in terms of stinking clouds or erastil to be your standard healer guy.
Post edited June 19, 2019 by InEffect
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Xelran: Any chance you could make the Varnhold cleric merc into a full build?

Would be really nice to take a pet healer along in the main campaign.
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InEffect: I can, although, considering it's really best served being a merc, idk what format it'd suit. There is also a question of should it be gozreh to replace sylvan sorc or erastil to be your standard healer guy.
I think it would be nice for people attempting higher difficulties run with build guidance.
Like how you told me to take a Sylvan Sorc along.

I do think there would be desire for 1-3 merc types for people to take a long so they can fill their gaps if they maybe don't like a companion and have nothing else to fill the role.

If that makes sense.
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InEffect: Crane wing/riposte works with whatever weapons because game is balanced and has no issues whatsoever.
Well... if you want dex 2-hander - yes it will have to be curve sword.
Will need to ramp ab/damage somehow, so V12 is set for sure. Then you'd need Ro4 to get the finesse training. With 4 levels left, you'll be looking for more AB and monk AC, so, naturally, M1, slayer 1, something 2. That something would be either paladin or fighter. The former adds ab vs evil, which is not bad and the latter - feats.
There is also an option of V16/Ro3/M1 that will have to go for 13 levels without finesse training and would sack UD and stuff. Or V16/Ro4 that won't get monk AC. Really, it's not that hard to cap out on AC still, but will be harder for sure.
As to build requests - they are done in the topic next door.
Thanks for reply. I expected there is 'balance' with crane feets.
Regarding build, i was looking at building any two handler with exotic weapon.
Wonder if there are any good ones?

With less focus on DEX, I guess I can look into two handed with armor to compensate for monk AC loss. Do you have any builds for that by chance? Preferably ranger / slayer maybe with study target, if it is any good?

Last question, what is so special about V12, does sneak from Rogue stack with Vivi?
And what are your thoughs on Sword Saint, I have not seem many builds with that one
Post edited June 20, 2019 by dem87
Hi,

I have read a few builds from you and have a question about the ranger build of Ekundayo.
In your build it is explained like this:

[i]Detailed leveling breakdown:
Lvl 6: Ranger - Manyshot
Lvl 7: Magus - Dazzling Display
Lvl 8: Magus

Once you get Magus level(s), right-click Acid Splash and forget about it. Extra attack never hurt anyone.
[/i]

Is Acid Splash then an addiotional attack to his bow attacks? I am trying a new run now and want to yous some builds from you. But so far I know from my last gameplay with Octavia, I gave her a shortbow and also made auto Acid Splash, but she just auto attacked then with Acid Splash. But maybe I am missing something here?

Thanks for the explanation.
Post edited June 20, 2019 by HannesT86
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dem87: Thanks for reply. I expected there is 'balance' with crane feets.
Regarding build, i was looking at building any two handler with exotic weapon.
Wonder if there are any good ones?
Trip vivisectionist is pretty OP. The build is in the main thread.

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dem87: With less focus on DEX, I guess I can look into two handed with armor to compensate for monk AC loss. Do you have any builds for that by chance? Preferably ranger / slayer maybe with study target, if it is any good?
You can't really ramp AC in armor. At least not without a lot of crutches from class feats, which ranger/slayer has a grand total of none. There is a decent slayer build in the main thread, though.

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dem87: Last question, what is so special about V12, does sneak from Rogue stack with Vivi?
V12 gives greater mutagen, greater invis and echolocation. Apart from that it's crippling strikes and rogue feat access if you take a class that would get a full list. It's good.


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dem87: And what are your thoughs on Sword Saint, I have not seem many builds with that one
Playing my saint vivisector build on unfair at the moment. It's going fine. The start was bumpy, though, as always for unfair.
The build is, again, in the main thread. Index in the 1st post.
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HannesT86: Is Acid Splash then an addiotional attack to his bow attacks?
yes. At magus 1 it's not very impressive as it only adds a cantrip. At magus 2 it adds another arrow to your volley. Only downside is he acts later in the round, which is not a big deal, especially for a ranged character.
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HannesT86: Is Acid Splash then an addiotional attack to his bow attacks?
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InEffect: yes. At magus 1 it's not very impressive as it only adds a cantrip. At magus 2 it adds another arrow to your volley. Only downside is he acts later in the round, which is not a big deal, especially for a ranged character.
A thanks my mistake haven't seen that there is a subclass Eldrich Archer... That explains it.
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InEffect: There is also a question of should it be gozreh to replace sylvan sorc in terms of stinking clouds or erastil to be your standard healer guy.
I actually didn't see the edit until now. I didn't know that cleric can actually be a stinking cloud bot replacement. Would he still be able to heal somewhat decent? If Yes, could you make that into a merc build pretty please?
Post edited June 20, 2019 by Xelran
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InEffect: There is also a question of should it be gozreh to replace sylvan sorc in terms of stinking clouds or erastil to be your standard healer guy.
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Xelran: I actually didn't see the edit until now. I didn't know that cleric can actually be a stinking cloud bot replacement. Would he still be able to heal somewhat decent? If Yes, could you make that into a merc build pretty please?
Full replacement - no. There is still haste, glitterdust and other good things you kinda want. He's a serviceable pick for a small party, though.