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Posted April 17, 2014
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xxxIndyxxx: I understand since i too post less and less. Hope you will return someday or do like me: only post in worthy topics and ignore the newbies that think this is steam forum or gametrailers or something...

EDIT: I start to believe that now gog is bigger and "better" there should be some form of moderating...
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HypersomniacLive: Funny you should mention this, I just stumbled upon one of TET's posts from about two years ago:

Good news, though. We're gonna get a dedicated community manager soon!
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HypersomniacLive: Did we get a Community Manager or is two years later is not yet "soon"?
Actually, you did as I am that Community Manager, of sorts :)

I got nominated officially not too long ago but I am not sure as to how go about announcing such a thing as I really don't like preening or grandstanding :)

Also, my style of moderation follows the Vetinari school of moderation:

Keep an eye on things, don't mess too much with what's going on, step in when something goes horribly wrong :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Actually, you did as I am that Community Manager, of sorts :)

I got nominated officially not too long ago but I am not sure as to how go about announcing such a thing as I really don't like preening or grandstanding :)

Also, my style of moderation follows the Vetinari school of moderation:

Keep an eye on things, don't mess too much with what's going on, step in when something goes horribly wrong :)
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HypersomniacLive: Nah, you worry too much - since you're only "of sorts" and with your background, no one will take it too seriously ;-P
It's a blessing and maaaaybe a curse? Not sure :P
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: It's a blessing and maaaaybe a curse? Not sure :P
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HypersomniacLive: Definitely both!! ;-P
Well, it does help having that sort of "street cred" around here :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Well, it does help having that sort of "street cred" around here :)
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reaver894: Iron fist and a Velvet glove.

Follow that and I'm sure a lot of us older members and the newer ones that have become disillusioned may come back.

As things stand there needs to be a firmer fist in my opinion.
Yes, you're right ...

Everyone is now banned. Thank you for using these forums but you are all banned!


(No one is banned. Please don't take this too seriously....)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Yes, you're right ...

Everyone is now banned. Thank you for using these forums but you are all banned!

(No one is banned. Please don't take this too seriously....)
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foxworks: How about a time out? :P
Be careful what you wish for :P
Posted April 17, 2014
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gbaz69: Again, sorry to see you going.

.... Can you fix the 'serial down reppers'?....
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pigdog: Good question. I'd like to hear a moderators view irrespective of whether any action is likely.
I am not sure what we're going to do as we are going to have a site-wide rewrite of the site and I haven't heard or seen anything regarding the forums. That's not to say that there won't be anything done just that it's too early to tell what will happen :)

Personally speaking as a fellow forumite, I'd rather get rid of the rep system and have it be a simple post count that is controlled only by the person with the post count. Rating posts would stay but I personally would recommend that the rating isn't anonymous as it is right now. If you look at the RPG Codex forums, you and everyone else can see who brofisted (liked) a post, just as an example.

The reason I state that rep system as it stands should go is because a) I get a lot of PMs regarding this and b) when you have people making a script to block or hide the rep system, that's a clear signal that something just ain't right. That's my 2 cents or 2p on the matter :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Yes, you're right ...

Everyone is now banned. Thank you for using these forums but you are all banned!

(No one is banned. Please don't take this too seriously....)
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reaver894: Glad you can poke fun at a serious suggestion to try to bring back the people hat helped the forum in the early days, However I do agree about removing the rep counter replacing with a post count, need to keep the report spam stuff too though.

Also no-one seemed to notice the Seven Kingdoms wink
Sorry if I mishandled that but I was trying to lighten the mood, however ineffectively :/

In all seriousness, though, those of us who interact with the community try to avoid being heavy handed with the moderation. I do get what you are saying but one has to be careful :)
Post edited April 17, 2014 by JudasIscariot
Posted April 17, 2014
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tinyE: My only problem with the post count is that folk like me post WAAAAYYY too much and it's going to make us look like real dicks.

When I first joined the forum someone thought I was under the impression that post counts = rep and ripped me a new asshole for it insisting that I was only doing it for the number.
Why would a post count, whether large or small, make you look dickish? Serious question.
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: I am not sure what we're going to do as we are going to have a site-wide rewrite of the site and I haven't heard or seen anything regarding the forums. That's not to say that there won't be anything done just that it's too early to tell what will happen :)

Personally speaking as a fellow forumite, I'd rather get rid of the rep system and have it be a simple post count that is controlled only by the person with the post count. Rating posts would stay but I personally would recommend that the rating isn't anonymous as it is right now. If you look at the RPG Codex forums, you and everyone else can see who brofisted (liked) a post, just as an example.

The reason I state that rep system as it stands should go is because a) I get a lot of PMs regarding this and b) when you have people making a script to block or hide the rep system, that's a clear signal that something just ain't right. That's my 2 cents or 2p on the matter :)
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Crsldmc: Thanks a lot for sharing the info and your thoughts on the matter, I totally agree.
You're welcome :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: *snip*
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stg83: Glad to know that your 2p on the matter align with the general consensus of most members on this forum. As you mentioned that you receive a lot of PMs regarding this issue (that is why I held off on my own) so you are aware that it is something that needs to be taken into serious consideration. Especially since you mentioned that you guys are going to overhaul the entire site at some point and it would be a good idea to improve the forum as well by looking at the most requested features including grievances related to the rep system.

Now since you are the hands-off community moderator for the forum, you can help us forward our concerns and suggestions to the concerned department. Let them know that the rep system is being abused to harass a lot of nice folks on the forum and they are demanding it to be revamped. I hope you will help us in getting the message across while we do our part by contacting the support department about it as well.
Well, I am forwarding the overall concerns of the community as best as I can :) Keep in mind that I can't really affect the way things go directly or quickly BUT I am trying my best to at least let the community be heard and your concerns known.

Also, I never did this kind of before so I am learning as I go :)

Another thing, I am not completely hands-off, I just want to make sure people can talk freely and not feel constrained while here.
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Why would a post count, whether large or small, make you look dickish? Serious question.
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SpellSword: Serious answer:
Because people will assume small replies are being made not for the sake of dialog but to increase post count.

I'd rather see Down Rep removed and keep the Up Rep system. Down Repping a post could still make the "Low Rated" words appear on the post itself but not directly effect the posters Rep. Thus making posts that have the communities disagreement(Or what not) still be highlighted without anyone feeling like they are being hated/bullied/etc.

Just a though. -_^
Speaking personally again, I'd rather get rid of voting systems altogether on posts. Seeing as how people feel like they're being harassed by a stream of down votes, I'd rather force the downraters to express their disapproval through words and not some -/+ buttons. That way, they'd have to choose their words and think about why they are disapproving something instead hiding anonymously or just letting a temporary flash of emotion get the better of them. As you know, one of the problems in a text-based medium like a forum is that we can't see the other person's body language, hear the tone of their voice, etc. so we can't tell if they are being serious, joking, or whatnot and a lot of misunderstandings arise and downvotes follow :/
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: snip

Personally speaking as a fellow forumite, I'd rather get rid of the rep system and have it be a simple post count that is controlled only by the person with the post count. Rating posts would stay but I personally would recommend that the rating isn't anonymous as it is right now. If you look at the RPG Codex forums, you and everyone else can see who brofisted (liked) a post, just as an example.

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HypersomniacLive: I'd rather have the +1 rep you get for the first post of the day instead of post count as that can also very quickly become meaningless, even misleading.
Or get rid of both rep and post counts, perhaps? :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: As you know, one of the problems in a text-based medium like a forum is that we can't see the other person's body language, hear the tone of their voice, etc. so we can't tell if they are being serious, joking, or whatnot and a lot of misunderstandings arise and downvotes follow :/
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SpellSword: I've personally encountered that in both forums and chat rooms and thus, I agree. ^_^
(It is one of the reasons I use so many emoticons.) -_^

However I'd hate to completely lose the Rep system in favor of a post count, I think negative Rep is the problem.

Positive Rep allows forum members to quickly identify pillars of the community without revealing how actively a forum member has posted, perhaps only +Rep should remain?

It's nice to have a way to silently say, "Yeah, I agree! / This is important / Thanks." without actually posting to a thread and I think that Up Rep provides that.

Also some members with existing amounts of Rep may feel they have lost something if it is completely removed.
(I kind of would. . .) >_>

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tinyE: ...
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SpellSword: If I'm understanding correctly I agree with tinyE. Displayed Post counts run the risk of highlighting very active forum members and this can lead to friction and alienation. (Real or perceived on their part.)

Also there is the spam blast as newcomers attempt to initially raise their post count number as opposed to just posting on topics that interest them. (From what I've seen this can cause the established community to become hostile to new members.)
You raise some interesting points I didn't think of with the post count scenario :) Thank you for that.

Regarding the emoticons, that's exactly why I use them so dang much :)
Posted April 17, 2014
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JudasIscariot: Or get rid of both rep and post counts, perhaps? :)
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Coelocanth: I like this idea. But definitely leave a quick and easy way to report spammers. That's all I use the downrep for anyway.
Spammer reports, yes, but there has to be a way to prevent abuse as you don't want someone spamming (no pun intended) the spam report button somehow...
Posted April 17, 2014
Alright, we've managed to hijack poor Schnuff's topic completely so give me a minute and I'll make a separate thread.

Also, Schnuff come back, please. We miss our resident hippo :)
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