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General discussion (archive)OK with the New Changes, or Not OK with them?(194 posts)(194 posts)
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Posted February 27, 2014
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OldFatGuy: We could have a 100% DRM free, 100% one world one price, 100% 90 day money back guarantee, 100% no limit guarantee when advertising for the product was so outrageous it amounted to fraud when we didn't get at all what we thought we were getting.

We could have all those things and they would be the industry standard. Consumers could have all the rights they wanted in all industries. IF we demanded them. As workers we could have living wages, with paid sick and vacation and retirement, safe work environments, and job security. IF we demanded them. And citizens could have a government that provided a safe environment for them to live and work, health care and education and a dignified retirement and a just set of laws. IF we demanded them.
...and a pony, no pollution, peace on Earth, and free blowjobs... if we only wanted to.
That is - if we got rid of free will, became a hivemind, and started acting perfectly reasonably and perfectly in sync.
That's not "delusional", it's simply true... for certain values of "we", "could", "have" and "want".

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OldFatGuy: But we don't. And that's why one day, instead of gog moving the industry toward DRM free, it will be the industry moving gog to include DRM.
Aaaaaaand you've crossed from day-dreaming into mad raving. Congratulations.
I hope you enjoyed your trip.

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OldFatGuy: In fact, the day is going to come where the industry standard is (and no one deviates from it) 100% online all the time to play, and we will likely have to pay subscription type prices to play them.
A STORM IS COMING! A STORM THAT SHALL SWEEP AWAY...
No, I can't do this. This went from loonie-ville into tinfoiled-mad-prophet territory. Smoothly... Relentlessly...
Based on ridiculous faith in consumers, ridiculous lack of faith in companies, and the good 'ol principle that is often odiously called "fascism" - the belief in strength through unity. No, I doubt our world is so horrible and potentially wonderful at the same time... and certainly not so simple. "If we all stopped paying" is a hilarious thought experiment, but to see it as a promising solution is laughable. The more people such an idea involves, the more absurd this becomes. I also know this - if I could get more than tenths of thousands of people worldwide to agree on ANYTHING unanimously, I think I'd dream of better causes...
Posted February 27, 2014
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Pheace: Rather than number of games, I personally think it's more interesting to split the information (or also do this) between those affected and not affected. No offense to US and RU but these changes don't negatively affect you at all, if anything it's positive.

As Selderij's comic video aptly mentioned. There's enough people unaffected by this to drown out those that are.
I'm affected negatively but I'm currently undecided. However, they should have waited until they could accept payments in local currencies. Having regional pricing and only accepting USD means GOG's regional prices are more expensive then they should be. When the get this sorted it will be a big improvement.

That said I'm content to wait and see how this pans out. Like I said before, I'm not against poorer countries, like Russia and the USA, paying less than elsewhere. However I will be concerned if this becomes an excuse for publishers to fleece less competitive markets.
Posted February 27, 2014
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OldFatGuy: [..]But we don't. And that's why one day, instead of gog moving the industry toward DRM free, it will be the industry moving gog to include DRM. In fact, the day is going to come where the industry standard is (and no one deviates from it) 100% online all the time to play, and we will likely have to pay subscription type prices to play them. [..]
Alas, I totally fear that too.
But I didn't buy games with DRM before GOG, so I just won't buy them if GOG will adopt it too.
(same for online-only titles)
Posted February 27, 2014
This means even less than you think it does, because of the wrong premise. "Not OK" is not at all the same as "I'm out of here", so you can't automatically count the people who just wrote "Not OK" into the "I'm out of here" group, just because they didn't explicitly say they would continue buying from GOG.

As for me, I am negatively affected but I will continue supporting DRM-free offers when I consider them good enough. I just won't favor any store because of its business "ethics" anymore (I admit, that was a stupid idea in the first place). I don't believe that GOG will introduce DRM directly on games because that would be really bad for business and effectively drive them into oblivion - but region locks are very close to DRM territory, too, and if the rumors about AoW3 are true, those are already on the horizon, much sooner than I expected.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by Leroux
Posted February 27, 2014
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Niggles: I can't disagree with you for once :D
.... NOW the sky is falling! ;p
Posted February 27, 2014
Not okay.

E.

Also, I'm peeved at the way they handled it and I laugh at the three games they chose to try and entice others with, with two of them being irrelevant and the other a reboot.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by Darvond
Posted February 27, 2014
p.s: GOG should really enable polls like the 90% of existing forums..

EDIT: wishlist added if you want.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by phaolo
Posted February 27, 2014
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OldFatGuy: ..snip...
I +1ed you because it was a well written and long post.
But I think you got yourself in a bit of a rant here. I voiced my opinion why I think that GOG makes a mistake in the main thread, though maybe nowbody will read it since it moves so fast.
You are right about people being able to achieve alot if they work in unison. That's how Poland and East Germany among others got rid of their Stalinist regimes. That's how Ghandi defeated the colonial forces in India. And there is nothing fascist about it (except you mean fascist in the truest sense, that just means "bonds").
But we're not talking about throwing off a dictatorship of colonial regime here. We're talking about a game shop - luxury goods. I also find it unfair to present your result and chicken out "My last post in this thread". You found something, let's discuss it!
Posted February 27, 2014
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Leroux: This means even less than you think it does, because of the wrong premise. "Not OK" is not at all the same as "I'm out of here", so you can't automatically count the people who just wrote "Not OK" into the "I'm out of here" group, just because they didn't explicitly say they would continue buying from GOG.

As for me, I am negatively affected but I will continue supporting DRM-free offers when I consider them good enough. I just won't favor any store because of its business "ethics" anymore (I admit, that was a stupid idea in the first place). I don't believe that GOG will introduce DRM directly on games because that would be really bad for business and effectively drive them into oblivion - but region locks are very close to DRM territory, too, and if the rumors about AoW3 are true, those are already on the horizon, much sooner than I expected.
Indeed. Sumed up exactly what I think. At begging I was full rage and thinking on leaving, but I sill have a dozen of games that I want from here and if they come at a good price before the things here get even more stinky, I´ll grab them. And yeah, a lesson learned about putting "fair ethic capitalism" hopes on a store and a remember of what hippocrisy means. Plus I like the community and will stay while the "vibe" keeps flowing, but I´m sure coming here less and less frequently.
Post edited February 27, 2014 by tokisto
Posted February 27, 2014
1) Okay

2) F
Posted February 27, 2014
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Andanzas: Is there an easy way to know how many games you own on GOG?
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Snickersnack: I nabbed this from someone in the forums:

If you use a reasonably recent version of Firefox go to your games shelf, press Ctrl+Shift+K, enter

$("#shelfGamesList .shelf_game:not(.empty)").length

and press Enter.
It's not even that complicated. I just open my shelf...
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Posted February 27, 2014
Not Ok

and

B
Posted February 28, 2014
1)The polar opposite of OK

2) B
Posted February 28, 2014
1) NOK
2) F (96, including the free ones)

Fact is when I bought Broforce on the Humble Store thinking it's price had been cut down to 10,99 while it just really became priced in euros (I don't regret the buy it looks like it'll be a pretty fun game) but I said to myself "bah, I'll just start buying most of my games on GOG" and BAM they announce that regional pricing and bullshit arguments...

<<< Sad

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Snickersnack: I nabbed this from someone in the forums:

If you use a reasonably recent version of Firefox go to your games shelf, press Ctrl+Shift+K, enter

$("#shelfGamesList .shelf_game:not(.empty)").length

and press Enter.
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geminidomino: It's not even that complicated. I just open my shelf...
Why don't they put that on the game shelf's page? :P
Post edited February 28, 2014 by Zoidberg
Posted February 28, 2014
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phaolo: p.s: GOG should really enable polls like the 90% of existing forums..

EDIT: wishlist added if you want.
Thats the one big thing missing (aside from a working search function haha) :D
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