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Out of my console/pc games, I think I would play around 1/4 to 1/2 again. Mostly my RPG, adventure, and a few other types. I still have my star ocean: the second story for the ps1 that claims over 80 different endings. That should keep me busy til I'm in the nursing home or dead !

There are times when I whipped out my old NES/snes and what not to replay those I loved when I was younger. I even bought Zombies ate my neighbors for the wii cause I was having a nostalgic moment, and I still have it for the snes!

As for the online games, not so much. I played Black ops til I was max prestige and lvl with one gold gun and just quit. WoW, I have a love/hate relationship. I haven't played in about 6months or more. Just gets dull with the repetitiveness of online gaming.

I'm the kind of person that hordes my old games, so I don't think I'll ever be missing that old game that I played ages ago.
Post edited March 21, 2012 by Jennywenny
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Trilarion: What's your opinion? How many games are there you couldn't "live" without?
None, the culture and evolution of gaming will be impossible to preserve and study accurately if we don't keep around the bulk of it.
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jamyskis: As the irreverent Dr. Ian Malcolm once said, "life finds a way". I know plenty of people who have installed floppy drives in their PCs (or at least have USB ones) for the sole purpose of running old floppy games.

If you have games and want to play them, there's no doubt in my mind that you'll seek out the hardware you need to run them. Hell, I still see record players for vinyls being sold new because people still prefer them.
Maybe. Maybe not. We'll see in 20 years :-)

As for the games, I do not think there will be games I play right now that I still want to play in 20 years. I tend to finish the games and that's it. Occasional replaying is definitely possible, but not the norm, even with games I like best like Quest for Glory series, KotOR series, etc. The longest time I play a game was with Dungeon Siege (almost a year if I recall correctly), and it was with dozens of different mods, siegelets, and total conversions, not the original game. The original game itself I only played like twice.

But then again 20 years is not a short time, so again we'll see in 20 years. Maybe I'll change my mind along the way. Maybe there will be games I'd like to replay when that time comes :-)
Post edited March 21, 2012 by tarangwydion
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keeveek: Guys, but your really think you will be able to launch these old games on modern systems? You can't already play some old games on 64 bit systems, what will 2022 bring? Nobody knows, but I'm quite sure that without such initiatives like gog, hardly any of them would be playable.
Doesn't anyone ever keep old tech or is this a product of our new society where every thing is disposible...

If i wanted i can go fire up Parsec or tunnels of doom i could.. (games from mid 80's) though i would need to dig it outta the attic and hook it up to an old TV that has RF antena so i can hook up my TI computer with speach synthisizer, and a tape player so i can up load the extra data not on the cartrage.

You can't run either of these games on any modern system.. yet they arer 30+ year old games and still worth playing. (edit, scratch that.. you can!! See i guess if there is a will there is a way.. If a game is that good, someone will figure out a way to play it in the future...)



See i think that is what people are missing.. A game worth doing all of this.. IS a great game.. and will be a great game in 20 years.. If you can't be bothered to take any extra steps to play a game, then the game probably wasn't that good in the first place..



Hmmm perhaps i will go dig out that old TI and fire up tunnels of doom!!!
Post edited March 22, 2012 by JeCy
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JeCy: Doesn't anyone ever keep old tech or is this a product of our new society where every thing is disposible...
Well, that's what publishers aim for with games at least. They don't want us to keep the games and play them later, they don't want us to sell them. Their innermost wish is for us to play them once and throw them away.

Besides, there's "old tech" and "old tech". Some older consoles and computers have clones of them being built even today. I know that there are plenty of NES clones doing the rounds which run NES cartridges just fine. There was a C64 Direct-to-TV that can be modded into proper C64 hardware.
perhaps.. But honestly i'm not really worried about what some publisher thinks, or does. if they make a good game, I may eventually play it. But to me it is always the little guy that has made the best games.

the reason is they don't have to live up to anyone elses vision. Most big publishers, and big bugets and most importantly stock holders that could care less if the game was good, and only that it sells a ton of copies. It is pop culture.

a computer game on the other hand, the good ones anyway, were always made by a few guys with a vision. They had an urge to make something really great. This will not change, that is why the truely great games will always be nitch and have cult like followings.


Just look at swtor.. in the end swg was much better, and had far more potential. But swtor will shine, cause it is really a dumbed down version, the wow style graphics that people love, and the new style interactive movie of todays gaming. But the game play options on the other hand, went from 50+ to go kill that guy....

that said, there is also the nitch MMO, that doesnt have 5 million subs, heck they dont even have 500k, or even 300k.. But they are great games, with there small markets, and they don't listen to a corperate overseer.



But you did hit the nail really... If it is worth playing, someone will find a way to play it down the road..
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keeveek: Guys, but your really think you will be able to launch these old games on modern systems? You can't already play some old games on 64 bit systems, what will 2022 bring?
I think the question was whether you think you'd play the games released now (not on GOG, but the new AAAAAA titles) 10-20 years from now. Not whether you could play games released in 1992, 10-20 years from now.

So, are you pretty certain that most current games (e.g. Mass Effect 3 or Skyrim) simply cannot be run on 2022, even on a PC which was bought back in 2012? I certainly hope you are wrong, but then I am putting hopes to virtual machines more and more. They could extend the life of retro games almost indefinitely.

EDIT: And I see you discussed this further already with jamiskys (sp?).

That won't help with most original Steam games though, and other similar DRM systems that require a client for installing and/or running the games. If and when they drop client support for e.g. Windows XP (or Win7, or whatever...), it won't matter for the client whether you run it in a genuine WinXP machine, or a virtual machine. It will still refuse to run, even if the game servers were still online. Then the only option is try to get the pirated versions of those Steam games.
Post edited March 22, 2012 by timppu
Probably none of them, I doubt they'll run on the hardware of the time.
I definitely revisit some games from time to time (in great part thanks to GOG).

Those that I revisit the most tend to have a fair amount of reply value (strategy games, racing games, shooters).
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JeCy: Hmmm perhaps i will go dig out that old TI and fire up tunnels of doom!!!
Failing that:

http://www.99er.net/emul.shtml

I think I've used at least "Win994a Simulator" before, I think they had most of the TI games downloadable as well. All I noticed was that I wasn't as good in TI Invaders, Munchman nor Parsec than I used to be as a kid. :)
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StingingVelvet: Indeed. "Winbox" can't really happen unless Microsoft allow it.
Sure it can, Wine still has a long way to go, but then, it took quite a while for DOSBox to get to its current state as well (yes, Windows is a couple orders of magnitude more complex, but that only makes it more difficult, not impossible).
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StingingVelvet: Indeed. "Winbox" can't really happen unless Microsoft allow it.
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Miaghstir: Sure it can, Wine still has a long way to go, but then, it took quite a while for DOSBox to get to its current state as well (yes, Windows is a couple orders of magnitude more complex, but that only makes it more difficult, not impossible).
Consider Amiga emulators. The only real copyrighted material that's still actively protected and sold is the Kickstart ROM. All the hardware environments and Workbench software seem to be ignored. But then, that's like giving someone a whole car or gun but withholding the spark plugs or receiver, respectively.
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JeCy: Hmmm perhaps i will go dig out that old TI and fire up tunnels of doom!!!
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timppu: Failing that:

http://www.99er.net/emul.shtml

I think I've used at least "Win994a Simulator" before, I think they had most of the TI games downloadable as well. All I noticed was that I wasn't as good in TI Invaders, Munchman nor Parsec than I used to be as a kid. :)
You know.. i actually found that along with a tunnels of doom remake! I havent played it yet, But it looks interesting..

and yea.. Parsec is one of my favorite games of all time.. I loved the refueling tunnels..


tunnels of doom rebooted..

http://www.dreamcodex.com/todr.php
I was delighted to see the remake of MunchMan there too, but alas, its download link is dead. :(