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morolf: I haven't seen that stupid Avatar movie, but did they really call that rare mineral "unobtanium"? Like in "unobtainable"?
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tinyE: Wrong movie.

Unobtanium comes from "The Core".
I think I actually saw that, wasn't that the movie where the reignited the earth's core with nuclear bombs or something of the sort?
I'm not sure that was scientifically accurate.
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tinyE: Wrong movie.

Unobtanium comes from "The Core".
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morolf: I think I actually saw that, wasn't that the movie where the reignited the earth's core with nuclear bombs or something of the sort?
I'm not sure that was scientifically accurate.
XD I don't think they were going for scientific accuracy. :P
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Klumpen0815: I tried to mix those up on purpose but...
it was actually called the same in Avatar:
http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Unobtanium
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tinyE: Cameron = thief
Well, Avatar is a rip-off in almost every other aspect, why not this too.
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adaliabooks: Hah, that's hilarious... that's what they call random unspecified rare elements on worldbuilding stack exchange... don't tell me there is a handwavium too XD
Isn't that what powers the Stargate?
Post edited July 21, 2017 by Breja
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tinyE: Cameron = thief
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Breja: Well, Avatar is a rip-off in almost every other aspect, why not this too.
Yeah, to 90% of Pocahontas.
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adaliabooks: Hah, that's hilarious... that's what they call random unspecified rare elements on worldbuilding stack exchange... don't tell me there is a handwavium too XD
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Breja: Isn't that what powers the Stargate?
Pretty much. As much as I love Stargate, the technology makes absolutely no sense most of the time.
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adaliabooks: Pretty much. As much as I love Stargate, the technology makes absolutely no sense most of the time.
Unobtanium, handwavium, McGuffinite...that's all pretty ideal stuff for sci-fi, IMO. I mean, it's *hard* to write good, hard sci-fi that won't look silly in 20 or 50 years due to our discoveries and stuff. Going ahead and accepting that there's no known way to make your toy do what your plot requires it to do is actually pretty honest. Stargate side-eyes the physics and then tells a story; that's about the best that's fair to expect of TV, isn't it? I can't even think of any good hard sci-fi in TV or movies...like, at all. Asimov's Foundation series has a lot of good stuff but AFAIK there's nothing extant in television or film (yet...there's always talk of making a movie or TV series). Even The Martian - which is a solid bit of hard sci-fi in novel form - takes a bunch of liberties in the film and is maybe not really hard sci-fi in that medium.
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Klumpen0815: All you need to know about "The Core":
http://www.intuitor.com/moviephysics/core.html
Thanks for the link. +1

I was actually impressed with the review, so I made the mistake of searching for other reviews on the site:
Star Trek 2009: It's filled with junk science, but they did a great job with the characters and dialog.

Okay... I guess I'm done reading anything else here.
Endurium can be found on the planet Gallius

(game-deadlock)
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OneFiercePuppy: Unobtanium, handwavium, McGuffinite...that's all pretty ideal stuff for sci-fi, IMO. I mean, it's *hard* to write good, hard sci-fi that won't look silly in 20 or 50 years due to our discoveries and stuff. Going ahead and accepting that there's no known way to make your toy do what your plot requires it to do is actually pretty honest. Stargate side-eyes the physics and then tells a story; that's about the best that's fair to expect of TV, isn't it? I can't even think of any good hard sci-fi in TV or movies...like, at all. Asimov's Foundation series has a lot of good stuff but AFAIK there's nothing extant in television or film (yet...there's always talk of making a movie or TV series). Even The Martian - which is a solid bit of hard sci-fi in novel form - takes a bunch of liberties in the film and is maybe not really hard sci-fi in that medium.
I totally agree, I would say it's near impossible to write hard sci fi, because so many things we want to see our actually either impossible or highly improbable in real life.
Stargate does a great job because it is at least fairly consistent throughout the series in what is possible or not. And it tells good stories with interesting characters.

They've just announced they're making a prequel mini series type thing, with any luck it might lead to a new proper series further down the line.
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mystikmind2000: Endurium can be found on the planet Gallius

(game-deadlock)
Can you give me the coordinates for Gallius? I don't see it on the Starfleet 2 map.
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mystikmind2000: Endurium can be found on the planet Gallius

(game-deadlock)
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taxguy: Can you give me the coordinates for Gallius? I don't see it on the Starfleet 2 map.
We can't give out that information, you could be a Romulan spy.
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taxguy: Can you give me the coordinates for Gallius? I don't see it on the Starfleet 2 map.
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nightcraw1er.488: We can't give out that information, you could be a Romulan spy.
Even if we could, those coordinates are still in that BB-8 unit, and he's gone missing!
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nightcraw1er.488: We can't give out that information, you could be a Romulan spy.
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tinyE: Even if we could, those coordinates are still in that BB-8 unit, and he's gone missing!
I'm pretty sure the planet is in Vorlon space, so it's a no-go anyway.
Post edited July 22, 2017 by Breja
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tinyE:
TinyE, please check your chat -_-
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tinyE:
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phaolo: TinyE, please check your chat -_-
I told zeo to PM you.

You need to turn off your "friends only" to talk to me.