Tbh I was pleasantly surprised to see someone take my suggestion(even if it wasn't done because I suggested it) and actually make something to help people out...so kudos for that.

Fair enough.

Lol, I at least use different words for what i'm saying, but yes I am in a sense repeating some thing as well.....so touche.

As for "teasing": isn't that the job of the others here who pester me every day? Do you really want to rob them of a job? ;)

You hold out hope....i'll give you that much, at least.
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All the above said, I hope you're doing well heathwise(and your family as well).....have a good one + stay safe/well.



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What about improving the business itself somehow? Those can be valid reasons as well, imo.

With that in mind, one possible one might be saving them time/money to work on other things for their and our benefit.

It's possible that any official reason that is true but not seen as valid might not please such people.....so why should GOG even bother answering then if such reasons apply & the ones who want answers might not accept said answers?

mebbe y'all should start a petition on change.org :P

Well, we are users after all so I do tend to focus on the user. Though it does remain to be seen too how this improves the business any either, especially in light of multiple customers are saying they're not making any more purchases here as a result of this decision (in these Downloader topics, as well as the wishlist entry...which continues to steadily grow every day). It seems to me at face-value, and assuming these users follow through on their "boycott", the decision to remove Downloader does the opposite of improving business! Do you disagree with that face-value view?

As for the latter, I find that claim difficult to believe under this particular circumstance, due to Downloader having been unsupported. In other words, for the last 5 years, they were not spending time or doing work on Downloader. It simply existed and continued working, to the delight of its users. So it is not as though the resources going to Downloader had to be redirected, as, resources weren't being used on it. Strange you invoke "our benefit" now, but if you want to go that route, please feel free to let me know what benefit the customer is getting as a result of Downloader's removal.


I see what you're saying but this is really getting into speculation since who's to say people wouldn't accept a better answer? I and others have articulated why the official reasoning so far was unsatisfactory and tonedeaf. If they would've added clarification, it would remove the arbitrary element at least. That is, it seems arbitrary that this thing has to be removed now when it worked just fine for half a decade. Imo, that arbitrary-like element of this whole process is what is fomenting a lot of the distrust users are expressing.

A "good reason" doesn't necessarily means "a good reason that I agree with" nor "a reason that make peoples happy". For example Gog had a good reason to add regional pricing even if it made a lot of peoples unhappy.

I don't know how Gog code base looks like but from a software development/ project management point of view getting rid of a software / API that you stopped supporting 5 years ago IS a good reason and usually, unless you have requirement for long term supports, something that you do much earlier.

Obsolete code is just a dead weight that limit your ability to improve or refactor your existing code as you have to make sure to not break said older code that nobody touch anymore.

So even if you are not actively working on it anymore it can still take time and resources to maintain as you still need to do regression testing to make sure that no recent change brake it. (Note: I am not talking about the Downloader itself but more about its AP, i.e. the parts creating and supporting the links)

Here we go again. I did not want to participate in this any longer but there is a thing I have to correct:

Yes, he talks about it and what he is building right now is not at all doing the same the Downloader does - it is simply there to check files for integrity/checksums as he did explain in length. I doubt it is a one click Downloader like the GOG Downloader was. So as I said, there is NO alternative that does the same like Downloader did with the same easyness to it and I am sure that Timboli agrees.

Oh, I could just shoot myself and be done with it as well ... that's not an option as well and you posted "not buying on GOG anymore" as being part of "the current best options". How does this "option" help me with my problems?

But please don't bother to reply - just let this be my last word on it ... please. Yes, I know, it is hard to not reply to a post for you (no matter if you were adressed or not) - you demonstrated this pretty well - but please leave this just be and maybe think about it or don't. I wanted to correct this for others to read because I doubt you will ever understand what I am trying to say.

Good Bye.

I do indeed.

And yes, the GameRager never stops, and that is why I mostly ignore him now ... but I am not one of those who down vote him, though surely he deserves it at times.

All speculation, we have no idea how they have things setup. If they have been sensible it should not be an issue.

You make the software fit the purpose not the other way around. Else it is akin to knocking your house down and rebuilding, because you bought a larger dining table. Normal people buy one or get one made, that fits.

And it is a false dichotomy to say, that because of age, something needs to be replaced. It only needs replacing if it can no longer do the job.

And this nonsense, about they told you something X years ago so you should have accepted it by now, is ridiculous. Why should we accept it now anymore than we did back then. There was no reason to complain until now, because it hadn't happened, and if anything we have more reason to complain now, because we greatly dislike its poor replacement. And in any case, customers here have been complaining about Galaxy for years and mentioning their fears. You can only do so much.

No-one would be complaining if we got a good replacement.

The fact we get more and more unhappy people each day, says a lot. 430+ votes is not to be sneezed at, most of whom would be the old loyal faithful, who will stick around if GOG do the right things, unlike the large majority, most of whom feel no loyalty to GOG, and are just opportunists ... not knocking them by the way, they are free to do as they wish when it comes to buying games ... each to their own.

Because using the browser is sometimes iffy, and more importantly, I have to download a bunch of files instead of simply one file. Maybe if they had a single EXE available so I didn't have to constantly monitor the download and then click to download a new section this would be useful.

Of course speed matters. If it didn't we'd still be using dial-up. After all, we'd get the file downloaded eventually.

And my reason for using GOG less isn't just about the loss of the Downloader. In general, Steam offers better prices (at least in Canadian dollars), can get games for it through Humble Bundle or Fanatical, gets game updates a lot quicker, has the Workshop for player-created content, and yes, the download speeds are much faster.

Don't get me wrong, GOG has its good points too. I like DRM-free content and GOG doesn't have the same limitations on gifting games to people in other countries. So it's not like I'd never use it again, but those perks aren't enough to warrant using it over Steam, or at least, enough in my case. I'm sure some other people would argue differently.

Everyone on here has been worried about GOG suddenly going pro-DRM out of nowhere since the site launched. Despite the fact they promise not to routinely, despite the fact they added DRM free installer downloads to Galaxy, despite the fact they even launched a site called "f**k DRM." At some point it's just paranoia.

No one is the friend to DRM free that GOG is, yet they get constant shit on these forums over it. It's like walking into a political convention and asking who supports a super niche policy, then interrogating the small number of people who come over to you. The vast majority don't care, and you're nit-picking your few supporters. If GOG ever do anything that actually pushes DRM then feel free to smite them from on high, but until then it's all a bunch of crap, honestly. It irritates the hell out of me.

Oh, that's easy...registered this month, but:

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/blatant_gog_piracy_site/post93
(quote: "This is why I used GoG here they can't remove my games , except the downloader.")

https://www.gog.com/u/Norglics (0 games in library)

Someone here is either a troll, or an alt.

Edit: oops, someone did it again:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_do_not_want_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post284
(quote: "Some years ago we wouldn't imagine downloader going away ,yet here we are without it.")

Well, where are your 5 games? Or your 3 games?

Try again.

Even if they required Galaxy it would not be DRM the way it works now, but do go off Mr. Orwell.

What if GOG were to include on their store a spinoff game of their flagship series that required an online connection to play at all?

Ok, so we established that you're registered since March 2020 (this month), you pretend you use GOG and you own games here, but your account doesn't show these games.
You claim, however, not to be an alt...

At the same time you shit all over the place about GOG's decision to remove/disable the GOGDownloader.

Well, that doesn't leave many alternatives.

As I wrote before: you're either a troll or an alt, and since you don't want to be an alt...you've got to be a troll.

I don't waste my time with trolls.
Have a nice one.