Posted March 26, 2020
Dreaganos
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Timboli
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Posted March 26, 2020
Dreaganos: When i click on your profile there i get
Twombs doesn’t have any public repositories yet.
Dreaganos: Maybe that's why we get a 404 error ?
Sorry about that, should be sorted now, as I worked out how to do a Release ... with guidance. Twombs doesn’t have any public repositories yet.
I am not big on over-complicated nerd stuff.
Download link has been corrected and contains no spaces. Repository made Public, but no modification access.
Hopefully all is fine now.
2 downloads, so I guess so.
Post edited March 26, 2020 by Timboli
Pajama
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Posted March 26, 2020
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So this is goodbye
That is all.
That is all.
GamezRanker
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Posted March 26, 2020
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rjbuffchix: Well, we are users after all so I do tend to focus on the user. Though it does remain to be seen too how this improves the business any either, especially in light of multiple customers are saying they're not making any more purchases here as a result of this decision (in these Downloader topics, as well as the wishlist entry...which continues to steadily grow every day).
Maybe they make more than they lose with this, and it's good business sense? Imo that is likely to be why they did it. (Though yes, I could be wrong)
As for number of wishlist entries: It has grown but not exponentially each day.....so yes it has grown, but sadly not by much.
rjbuffchix: It seems to me at face-value, and assuming these users follow through on their "boycott", the decision to remove Downloader does the opposite of improving business! Do you disagree with that face-value view?
Somewhat, because of the reality in many businesses where the ones who blindly buy or don't care about such decisions often outstrip those who boycott. Also I also seriously/actually wonder how many who voted will boycott and for how long.
rjbuffchix: As for the latter, I find that claim difficult to believe under this particular circumstance, due to Downloader having been unsupported. In other words, for the last 5 years, they were not spending time or doing work on Downloader. It simply existed and continued working, to the delight of its users. So it is not as though the resources going to Downloader had to be redirected, as, resources weren't being used on it. Strange you invoke "our benefit" now, but if you want to go that route, please feel free to let me know what benefit the customer is getting as a result of Downloader's removal.
They likely kept it going to be nice and give people time to transition to something else....imo kind of nice of them to give people so long, if that's the case. As for how this benefits us: They can possibly shift any resources spent on keeping the GOG DLer working for people(if any) to fixing all the other issues people have brought up.
rjbuffchix: I see what you're saying but this is really getting into speculation since who's to say people wouldn't accept a better answer? I and others have articulated why the official reasoning so far was unsatisfactory and tonedeaf.
Didn't you say the answers given at one point insulted your intelligence? Maybe they have read such posts by everyone and feel like it'd be pointless to give any others answers if people might not accept them. rjbuffchix: If they would've added clarification, it would remove the arbitrary element at least. That is, it seems arbitrary that this thing has to be removed now when it worked just fine for half a decade. Imo, that arbitrary-like element of this whole process is what is fomenting a lot of the distrust users are expressing.
It likely worked due to them keeping it working for awhile to give people a chance to change to something else.rjbuffchix
Online/Galaxy required = DRM.
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GamezRanker
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Posted March 26, 2020
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DeadPoolX: And my reason for using GOG less isn't just about the loss of the Downloader. In general, Steam offers better prices (at least in Canadian dollars), can get games for it through Humble Bundle or Fanatical, gets game updates a lot quicker, has the Workshop for player-created content, and yes, the download speeds are much faster.
Fair enough.....I also sometimes buy games due to price-etc on steam, so I get that aspect of buying elsewhere. DeadPoolX: Don't get me wrong, GOG has its good points too. I like DRM-free content and GOG doesn't have the same limitations on gifting games to people in other countries. So it's not like I'd never use it again, but those perks aren't enough to warrant using it over Steam, or at least, enough in my case. I'm sure some other people would argue differently.
Also fair/sounds good. =====================================
Fair enough, and thanks.
Post edited March 26, 2020 by GameRager
Timboli
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Posted March 27, 2020
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My program is now available. I will do a separate thread later, but for now .....
LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
I see the number is now 455. Keep it up good folk.
FOR THOSE WHO WANT SOME KIND OF SOLUTION TO OUR DILEMMA
See my post above - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_do_not_want_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post155
For those who are interested, here are some screenshots of my program. Just a simple look focused on the practical.
GOGDownload Checker Screenshots
The program works for EXE (and BIN) and ZIP files..
SH (Linux) files are now supported to some degree. 7Z and RAR files are now supported.
This is especially for those who archive their game files, and don't want to use Galaxy.
GOGDownload Checker Project
GOGDownload Checker Download --- (updated to v1.1)
Please read the Notes.txt file in the zip first, especially as it has my DISCLAIMER, but also some instructions & links for both InnoExtract and 7-Zip.
Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
I see the number is now 455. Keep it up good folk.
FOR THOSE WHO WANT SOME KIND OF SOLUTION TO OUR DILEMMA
See my post above - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_do_not_want_say_goodbye_to_gog_downloader/post155
For those who are interested, here are some screenshots of my program. Just a simple look focused on the practical.
GOGDownload Checker Screenshots
The program works for EXE (and BIN) and ZIP files..
SH (Linux) files are now supported to some degree. 7Z and RAR files are now supported.
This is especially for those who archive their game files, and don't want to use Galaxy.
GOGDownload Checker Project
GOGDownload Checker Download --- (updated to v1.1)
Please read the Notes.txt file in the zip first, especially as it has my DISCLAIMER, but also some instructions & links for both InnoExtract and 7-Zip.
Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
Post edited March 31, 2020 by Timboli
happywinner
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Posted March 27, 2020
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Timboli: My program is now available. I will do a separate thread later, but for now .....
Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
SORRY MAN , BUT WE WANT OFFICIAL DOWNLOADER, THAT WORKS 100% ALL TIME- no thirdparty apps/scripts Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
I never buying third party bs, even if it is opensource...
thats why GOG DOWNLOADER is so important, it is official tool !
They already not updating it so LONG TIME and it worked flawlessly
Why they fixing what isn't broken, by removing it?
Post edited March 27, 2020 by happywinner
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Post edited March 27, 2020 by GameRager
Timboli
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Posted March 27, 2020
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happywinner: SORRY MAN , BUT WE WANT OFFICIAL DOWNLOADER, THAT WORKS 100% ALL TIME- no thirdparty apps/scripts
I never buying third party bs, even if it is opensource...
thats why GOG DOWNLOADER is so important, it is official tool !
You need to read some more of my posts, and you will see I want the GOG Downloader back as well. I never buying third party bs, even if it is opensource...
thats why GOG DOWNLOADER is so important, it is official tool !
My program is not a replacement, not at all, as it doesn't download. You have to do that yourself using the browser links, with or without a third party downloader.
So my program, if you want, can be seen as a stop-gap measure, until GOG do the right thing. All it does, is test the integrity of the files you download from GOG via browser links. When I say my program, really it is just a front-end for two other third party ones, 7-Zip (to test ZIP files) and InnoExtract (to test EXE and associated BIN files).
Just take note, that InnoExtract has GOG support built in, so could well be used inside the GOG Downloader for all we know, maybe even Galaxy, but at the least it would be for officially using with the GOG API.
LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
Post edited March 27, 2020 by Timboli
Timboli
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Posted March 27, 2020
Indeed.
There is absolutely no reason for it to be the memory hog it is, except poor design and coding decisions.
And there is no reason why they cannot have two versions of Galaxy, one a cutback version that does not try to be the master of everything, and inevitably fails to do the basics well. They only need to make their code modular, better thought out, and it is easy peasy to please all ... except a few nutters who won't accept any downloader ... and who cares about them.
But alas the mentality these days, is to throw bloated stuff at everyone, because many have powerful computers that can cope. You see that here in GOGs web pages, especially the main one ... runs like crap. A false dichotomy, as there is never a good excuse for it. In reality, it is about trying too hard to be too clever, when no-one really gives a toss, and it doesn't need to be that way.
Dog help us, if the nerds run the world even more than they already do.
There is absolutely no reason for it to be the memory hog it is, except poor design and coding decisions.
And there is no reason why they cannot have two versions of Galaxy, one a cutback version that does not try to be the master of everything, and inevitably fails to do the basics well. They only need to make their code modular, better thought out, and it is easy peasy to please all ... except a few nutters who won't accept any downloader ... and who cares about them.
But alas the mentality these days, is to throw bloated stuff at everyone, because many have powerful computers that can cope. You see that here in GOGs web pages, especially the main one ... runs like crap. A false dichotomy, as there is never a good excuse for it. In reality, it is about trying too hard to be too clever, when no-one really gives a toss, and it doesn't need to be that way.
Dog help us, if the nerds run the world even more than they already do.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by Timboli
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Posted March 27, 2020
Timboli: My program is now available. I will do a separate thread later, but for now .....
Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
happywinner: SORRY MAN , BUT WE WANT OFFICIAL DOWNLOADER, THAT WORKS 100% ALL TIME- no thirdparty apps/scripts Feedback appreciated, especially as my testing has mostly focused on the main use, and I thought that some might like the program sooner rather than later.
I never buying third party bs, even if it is opensource...
thats why GOG DOWNLOADER is so important, it is official tool !
They already not updating it so LONG TIME and it worked flawlessly
Why they fixing what isn't broken, by removing it?
Squirline
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Timboli: Indeed.
There is absolutely no reason for it to be the memory hog it is, except poor design and coding decisions.
And there is no reason why they cannot have two versions of Galaxy, one a cutback version that does not try to be the master of everything, and inevitably fails to do the basics well. They only need to make their code modular, better thought out, and it is easy peasy to please all ... except a few nutters who won't accept any downloader ... and who cares about them.
But alas the mentality these days, is to throw bloated stuff at everyone, because many have powerful computers that can cope. You see that here in GOGs web pages, especially the main one ... runs like crap. A false dichotomy, as there is never a good excuse for it. In reality, it is about trying too hard to be too clever, when no-one really gives a toss, and it doesn't need to be that way.
Dog help us, if the nerds run the world even more than they already do.
I think that's because most of the developers just use premade modules read instruction how to make them work, join them togeather and done. If it does it's job then it is fine ,that is the motto. In conan exiles a dev made a simple wall made of insane amount of polys like other games use for the main character , and buildings constists of at least dozens of these. And no wonder the game run slow. Just pump in the effects.There is absolutely no reason for it to be the memory hog it is, except poor design and coding decisions.
And there is no reason why they cannot have two versions of Galaxy, one a cutback version that does not try to be the master of everything, and inevitably fails to do the basics well. They only need to make their code modular, better thought out, and it is easy peasy to please all ... except a few nutters who won't accept any downloader ... and who cares about them.
But alas the mentality these days, is to throw bloated stuff at everyone, because many have powerful computers that can cope. You see that here in GOGs web pages, especially the main one ... runs like crap. A false dichotomy, as there is never a good excuse for it. In reality, it is about trying too hard to be too clever, when no-one really gives a toss, and it doesn't need to be that way.
Dog help us, if the nerds run the world even more than they already do.
Timboli
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Posted March 27, 2020
Squirline: I think that's because most of the developers just use premade modules read instruction how to make them work, join them togeather and done. If it does it's job then it is fine ,that is the motto. In conan exiles a dev made a simple wall made of insane amount of polys like other games use for the main character , and buildings constists of at least dozens of these. And no wonder the game run slow. Just pump in the effects.
Indeed. Mostly it is because software dates and they do things in a rush, and so much easier to let others do much of the thinking, even when it is not that suitable overall. This happens a lot these days.
Having worked in an emergency Call Center, I know all about this first hand. Majority trumps minority, even when it is patently ridiculous. At the end of the day, it is about money, and if you can make something work, even poorly, it will do in management's eyes (mind). And because the buck rarely stops with anyone, certainly not management, even lives being impacted or lost, rarely makes a difference.
A sad sorry world we live in at times .... and that's the excesses of Capitalism for you.
Post edited March 27, 2020 by Timboli