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rojimboo: I don't really understand how it's such a big issue to support better downloads THAN from the browser / provide an official tool for non-Galaxy users?
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Timboli: What you said can be taken the wrong way, so I added the one word to make it clearer. :)

Or maybe I got it wrong?
No, the original was correct.

I'm with you (I think ;)

To clarify, I was asking why GOG cannot provide us with an official tool to download offline installers? Especially since there are free unofficial tools that work amazingly well.

I also think that the browser method is atrocious as it currently is - especially for newcomers to GOG (like myself) who were unaware of this and the existence of the 3rd party tools. Let's face it, having to click on a dozen or so download links, each separate, just for an installer, reeks of laziness and incompetence to those who just want to play some games. Most of us know better by now, but that's what it seems like to many at first. That's surely not an image GOG want to embrace of themselves.
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To clarify, I was asking why GOG cannot provide us with an official tool to download offline installers?
Agreed 100%
I also think that the browser method is atrocious as it currently is - especially for newcomers to GOG (like myself) who were unaware of this and the existence of the 3rd party tools.
It has some undesirable aspects(like the odd way some similarly sized games are broken up), so I wouldn't call it atrocious....I would say it needs some work, though.
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amok: but yes, as I have always said, it is silly to prefer stores. the games are what is important - where you get them is not
If you have been wondering why I haven't been responding directly to you, it is because I cannot take your intellect seriously, after a silly statement like that. It ignores so many important facts that impact.

Enjoy your gaming. :)
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amok: All unsupported pieces of software will at some point stop working, as other software / frameworks / API's etc are constantly updated. At some point, if the unsupported software is not updated to interact with the new updated softwares (which means it would be supported...) it will break. This is logical and how things work in practice.
Ok great, now please look at it from the consumer point of view. There are consumers here who don't even know what an API is. Why should I as a consumer care about GOG's frameworks and APIs? I am not seeing the benefit to me as a consumer. By contrast, I do see the benefit to me as a consumer from Downloader existing.
Please use "I' instead of "We".

You can and only can represent yourself.
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Flyingfluffypiglet: Came across today a 2017 article from PC Gamer calling Galaxy a 'great lightweight client', would love to have their take on it now for lightweight it sure is no more.
Most magazines, despite what they proclaim, are crawlers and propaganda merchants ... that's how they get their freebies and great deals etc.
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Timboli: Most magazines, despite what they proclaim, are crawlers and propaganda merchants ... that's how they get their freebies and great deals etc.
No argument there, which is why I'd love their take on it now (haven't checked and perhaps they have put something out) ,which could make for a good albeit cringy laugh ;-)
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blotunga: I'm fine as long as GOG allows http based downloads.
DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
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blotunga: I'm fine as long as GOG allows http based downloads.
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Ashleee: DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
Thanks for the response in this topic too. Is that a Freudian slip indicating Galaxy requirement would indeed be DRM? Many of the user responses in these Downloader topics have been to say "what's the big deal, you can download the offline installers via Galaxy". So I worry not just about the offline installers, but being able to download them from GOG.com without the need for Galaxy.
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Ashleee: DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
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rjbuffchix: Thanks for the response in this topic too. Is that a Freudian slip indicating Galaxy requirement would indeed be DRM? Many of the user responses in these Downloader topics have been to say "what's the big deal, you can download the offline installers via Galaxy". So I worry not just about the offline installers, but being able to download them from GOG.com without the need for Galaxy.
^ This.

And, for the records, theese so prompt answers on two different threads sound to me like...

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta.


Sorry, GOG, I believe you no more.
Some here criticize the age of the GOG Downloader and how they presume it is is redundant, without really knowing the ins and outs of it.

Another way to look at it, is to say WOW ... it still works great for many after all this time. What did they do right?

Age can sometimes be quite meaningless.

And when it comes to coding, it is often down to how diligent the original coder was.

When a program stops working due to OS reasons, it is generally some little minor thing that Microsoft changed in a DLL file or a Registry entry etc, so something that can be very quickly fixed ... by the original coder especially.

Any other reason, and it is something deliberate, that doesn't necessarily have to be. GOG have yet to provide that reason, but many of us suspect a certain forced agenda.

Just consider for a moment, how many GOG customers actually visit the forum.
Maybe most don't.
So while some conjecture that barely anyone uses the GOG Downloader now, and that most are happy to use Galaxy, they may be completely wrong.
Perhaps it is even the opposite, and so unhappy that most or not enough are using Galaxy 2.0, they are now attempting to force us to use it.
Or another scenario, is that most use the browser links and maybe few use either GD or GG or perhaps in that scenario, GD is even being used more that GG.
Of course, maybe many of those who use GG for multiplayer, still prefer GD for downloading.


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Ashleee: DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
Is Galaxy bundled in those installers?
Post edited March 17, 2020 by Timboli
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Ashleee: DRM-FREE policy will always be our core value so for sure the offline installers won't be gone
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Timboli: Is Galaxy bundled in those installers?
The web installer is included in it which is ticked by default.
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visconteprimus: And, for the records, theese so prompt answers on two different threads sound to me like...

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta.


Sorry, GOG, I believe you no more.
Then feel free to move on or "suck it up" like some of us and use what is still on offer(as per DL methods)....GOG replied/it's gone, and these posts likely won't bring it back(feel free to keep making them though, if it helps you handle this somehow).....now all we can likely do is move on & get on with our lives.
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Any other reason, and it is something deliberate, that doesn't necessarily have to be. GOG have yet to provide that reason, but many of us suspect a certain forced agenda.
And without proof that's all it is(for now).....a suspicion.

So while some conjecture that barely anyone uses the GOG Downloader now, and that most are happy to use Galaxy, they may be completely wrong.
But they are also possibly right(and imo also likely to be right in this case, though of course i'd also like to see numbers on this to verify).
Post edited March 17, 2020 by GameRager
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amok: All unsupported pieces of software will at some point stop working, as other software / frameworks / API's etc are constantly updated. At some point, if the unsupported software is not updated to interact with the new updated softwares (which means it would be supported...) it will break. This is logical and how things work in practice.
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rjbuffchix: Ok great, now please look at it from the consumer point of view. There are consumers here who don't even know what an API is. Why should I as a consumer care about GOG's frameworks and APIs? I am not seeing the benefit to me as a consumer. By contrast, I do see the benefit to me as a consumer from Downloader existing.
I am so glad that what you got out og my post was "I don't know what API is"...

anyway, if you as a customer don't know any such things, then why and how do you find discontinued software, which is not supported? If you do not know any such things, the customer you are describing, would you not use the official software and solutions provided?

and still, you do not need to know what an API is to know that software which is not supported may not work
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visconteprimus: And, for the records, theese so prompt answers on two different threads sound to me like...

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta.


Sorry, GOG, I believe you no more.
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GameRager: Then feel free to move on or "suck it up" like some of us and use what is still on offer(as per DL methods)....GOG replied/it's gone, and these posts likely won't bring it back(feel free to keep making them though, if it helps you handle this somehow).....now all we can likely do is move on & get on with our lives.
I know, man, and I've already said to you which will be my way: if a company acts in a way I don't agree, I'll simply stop support it. :)

Farewell, I think I won't come back here.