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Gremlion: Simple statistic. [url=https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GDP_PPP_per_capita_CIS.svg]https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GDP_PPP_per_capita_CIS.svg[/url]
Belorussia had worse start and showed comparable to Russia growth. Ukraine - stalemate for twenty years.
No argument here, i was questioning Belarus being the best, especially taking into account Baltic countries.

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Gremlion: Poroshenko is the sponsor of Yanukovich and one of oligarchs, which stalled country to zero growth. So, can you tell me with straight face that you got better government after third revolution?
yep. Not by much, but it is better.

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Gremlion: And western media tired to excuse about Ukrainian photoshop skills.
http://time.com/74405/exclusive-pro-russian-separatists-eastern-ukraine/
Your article says that there are no real proofs that Babay is a russian soldier, nothing about photoshop there as far as i can see (although, i've read only first part of it).

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Gremlion: Ok, there is lie in news. But animation for kids? Films? Heck, half of Ukraine would prefer to see them on Russian language. It's like Canada banning every channel on English language and leave only French ones because of Fox news.
70% of films and movies on ukrainian channels _are_ in Russian anyway. And your comparison sucks a bit - no one bans russian-language channels, ban applies only to russian (as of origin country) channels and only because of news. Stupid way of dealing with them though, can't argue with that, kind of like Russia bans ukrainian artists and vice versa.
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http://globalresearch.ca/evidence-is-now-conclusive-two-ukrainian-government-fighter-jets-shot-down-malaysian-airlines-mh17-it-was-not-a-buk-surface-to-air-missile/5394814
Another top story from that website: "Autism Links to Vaccines: Whistleblower Reveals Evidence of Criminal Coverup by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC)". Might want to verify your sources a bit more carefully in the future before posting conspiracy-drivel from easily identified nutters.
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Is it better? http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

Personally, I didn't like the end of previous article, which tries to put all blame on specific person and his political party.
For me it looks more like work of weapon magnates and their lobby in the government.
Ok all the media news report that russian troops haw now begun invasion of Ukraine. 1000 russian troops have been already sighted and the city of Novoazovsk has fallen. So it seems that the war has started for real now. Nato also confirms the invasion. Some news media have started to post that the West should go to war against Russia. This could turn ugly in the long run.
Post edited August 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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Matruchus: Ok all the media news report that russian troops haw now begun invasion of Ukraine. 1000 russian troops have been already sighted and the city of Novoazovsk has fallen. So it seems that the war has started for real now. Nato also confirms the invasion. Some news media have started to post that the West should go to war against Russia. This could turn ugly in the long run.
Fuck. What the fuck is wrong with Russia. Seriously. Putin should just put a bullet in his sick useless head. But not any bullet, a bullet made of shit. That kills him slowly via an insanely nasty infection.
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Matruchus: Ok all the media news report that russian troops haw now begun invasion of Ukraine. 1000 russian troops have been already sighted and the city of Novoazovsk has fallen. So it seems that the war has started for real now. Nato also confirms the invasion. Some news media have started to post that the West should go to war against Russia. This could turn ugly in the long run.
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F4LL0UT: Fuck. What the fuck is wrong with Russia. Seriously. Putin should just put a bullet in his sick useless head. But not any bullet, a bullet made of shit. That kills him slowly via an insanely nasty infection.
http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/ukraine-krise-krieg-zwischen-russland-und-westen-reale-moeglichkeit/10622588.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28967526
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/28/ukraine-accuses-russia-invading-south-east-help-rebels
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/28/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/krieg-in-der-ukraine-poroschenko-spricht-von-einmarsch-russischer-truppen-1.2106920
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/ukraine-reaktionen-des-westens-auf-russlands-vorgehen-a-988642.html
http://www.bild.de/politik/ausland/ukraine/usa-behaupten-putin-startet-gegenoffensive-37433346.bild.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/28/uk-ukraine-crisis-nato-idUKKBN0GS1D020140828

Also adding the last report from Ukrainian army about the fighting status today in the picture.
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Post edited August 28, 2014 by Matruchus
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Gremlion: Is it better? http://www.nst.com.my/node/20925

Personally, I didn't like the end of previous article, which tries to put all blame on specific person and his political party.
For me it looks more like work of weapon magnates and their lobby in the government.
Considering the reference for that article is the previous article you posted, no, not so much. And considering this claim seems to fly in the face of information released to this point, and that no major news sources have picked it up, you're going to need to point to a source that has well-established journalistic integrity.

Frankly you have pretty much no credibility at the moment, and next to the outright Russian invasion of Ukraine that's currently occurring your claims are nothing more than a pointless distraction that deserves no more of my time.
Our Australian Police were there to collect our dead, I'll wait for their full report before I put my vote towards military action. Doesn't look good for Russia atm.
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SNBO says that this was a lie
http://ukraina.ru/news/20140828/1010310828.html

Militants said 24.08 that they would start counterattack
ria.ru/world/20140824/1021241246.html
Things are so bad for officials that whole battalion deserted (not the behaviour of fighters against terrorists, right?)
http://ukraina.ru/news/20140828/1010307795.html
People started another Maidan yesterday
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/08/28/maidan3/
So Poroshenko says lies and western media multiplies them to save his regime.
Just stop for a moment - if Russia really wanted to invade Ukraine, we would've used paratroopers directly in Kiev.
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Gremlion: Just stop for a moment - if Russia really wanted to invade Ukraine, we would've used paratroopers directly in Kiev.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time. Yup, because that's how invasions work... IN FUCKING RED DAWN AND CALL OF DUTY!
Post edited August 28, 2014 by F4LL0UT
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Gremlion: Just stop for a moment - if Russia really wanted to invade Ukraine, we would've used paratroopers directly in Kiev.
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F4LL0UT: This is the most ridiculous thing I've read in a long time. Yup, because that's how invasions work... IN FUCKING RED DAWN AND CALL OF DUTY!
Um, this is exactly what you would do in situation where people protest against their government - overthrow it and put loyal one.
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Gremlion: Um, this is exactly what you would do in situation where people protest against their government - overthrow it and put loyal one.
What does a Michael Bay style scene where thousands of paratroopers drop directly into a capital have to do with what you're saying now?!
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Gremlion: Just stop for a moment - if Russia really wanted to invade Ukraine, we would've used paratroopers directly in Kiev.
Right and the anti-air defenses are watching tv right?
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k1bell: Right and the anti-air defenses are watching tv right?
I think the main strategic problem would be the separatists accidentally shooting down all the transports soon after passing the border. :P