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snowkatt: snip
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Rievier: I actually think that Azzarello is a good writer for this book and while it will be hard to beat the first book it can't be worse than the second.
Azzarello's Broken City and the Flashpoint Batman mini series were very Miller-like (in a good way) which is probably why he got the job. He is a good choice, if this project can work at all, he will make it do so. But there is zero chance of it being near the original. And since they are apparently keeping Strikes Back, and All-Star as canon, it will be like swimming with lead weights chained to your ankles.
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Gonen32: AKA 4Chan: The Graphic Novel.
You man /pol/: The Graphic Novel :P
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Breja: Azzarello's Broken City and the Flashpoint Batman mini series were very Miller-like (in a good way) which is probably why he got the job. He is a good choice, if this project can work at all, he will make it do so. But there is zero chance of it being near the original. And since they are apparently keeping Strikes Back, and All-Star as canon, it will be like swimming with lead weights chained to your ankles.
I didn't read those because I don't buy events from the Big Two unless they are really good and they are really cheap( I don't think I could buy a full event considering that I'm working part-time since I'm not an adult yet, I'm paying the bills, buying food,clothes and stuff I need for high-school among other things) Seriously 4$ is a lot for one book, not to mention a event sized one, but I'm derailing from the topic, so on to topic, I still think that he can do it even with the canon things they are keeping( btw. why are they doing that?) but it's also problematic that the Big Two are well known for restraining their writers what do to until they make them leave that publisher. Like I've said it won't top the original, but if Azzarello keeps doing what he did until now there won't be any problems.

PS: Off-topic, I've just finished watching House of Cards the British version from your recomendation a few months ago and it was perfect. Now I can't watch the american one with the same mind I did before, and this season was lackluster to say the least. Thank you for it, I'm always thrilled when I see something at least good, not to mention something this great.
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Rievier: I didn't read those because I don't buy events from the Big Two unless they are really good and they are really cheap
Broken City wasn't an event, it was just a story arc from the monthly Batman comics, later collected as a graphic novel. If you like Miller's Batman (from before he went crazy) it's a really good read.

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Rievier: I still think that he can do it even with the canon things they are keeping( btw. why are they doing that?)
Well, All-Star Batman & Robin was a bestseller, despite being crap. And never atually concluding. And so was TDKR 2 I belive. It's kind of like Star Wars preques. The fans may hate it, and be very vocal about it, but financially it's still sound.

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Rievier: PS: Off-topic, I've just finished watching House of Cards the British version from your recomendation a few months ago and it was perfect. Now I can't watch the american one with the same mind I did before, and this season was lackluster to say the least. Thank you for it, I'm always thrilled when I see something at least good, not to mention something this great.
Glad to hear it :) The original is superb, and it's a pity for it to get overshadowed by the american version. I hope more people will seek it out. Spread the word!
Post edited July 15, 2015 by Breja
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Rievier: I actually think that Azzarello is a good writer for this book and while it will be hard to beat the first book it can't be worse than the second. I've enjoyed a lot some of his works, like this new take on Wonder Woman, 100 Bullets, his stories from Hellblazer are great, and thought that Sgt. Rock: Between Hell and a Hard Place was good enough. The only thing that worries me is Andy Kubert.
i never said that azerello wasnt a good write i said that i hope that he and a slew of editors can reign in millers worst tendencies
because miller has gone completley off the rails
the dark knight strikes back
all star batman and robin
and holy terror can only be discribed as epic misfires

having said that i havent read much by azerello so i am not ina position to judge him as a writer i am just glad there is somebody around tempering millers edges
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snowkatt: i never said that azerello wasnt a good write
I've never stated that you said that, I've just said that he fits well for this book. Wait, what does Miller's tendencies have to do with anything? I mean he's not doing anything on this book, or am I mistaken?


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Breja: Broken City wasn't an event.

Well, All-Star Batman & Robin was a bestseller, despite being crap.

Glad to hear it :) The original is superb, and it's a pity for it to get overshadowed by the american version. I hope more people will seek it out. Spread the word!
Maybe I'll give it a go and buy it, but I don't really know.

I've always wondered why people keeps buying trash, be it books/movies/video-games/music and so on. I understand that people will get fooled on the first day when something launches, but by the second day and so on almost everyone knows if that product is good or bad. Seriously, has the mass-media desensitized us so much that we don't care anymore if that product is good or bad if it's in our hands?

Honestly if it wasn't for Kevin Spacey I would not even watch the show. He makes the show. Just take him out of equation and the show will be really lackluster, although I bet that same can be said about Ian Richardson. He was born for that show and was exceptional in it.
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Rievier: I've never stated that you said that, I've just said that he fits well for this book. Wait, what does Miller's tendencies have to do with anything? I mean he's not doing anything on this book, or am I mistaken? .
his tendencies to go off the rails
just look at the dark knigth strikes back all star batman and robin and holy terror to see what i mean
imhoping azerello can reign that in
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Rievier: I've never stated that you said that, I've just said that he fits well for this book. Wait, what does Miller's tendencies have to do with anything? I mean he's not doing anything on this book, or am I mistaken? .
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snowkatt: his tendencies to go off the rails
just look at the dark knigth strikes back all star batman and robin and holy terror to see what i mean
imhoping azerello can reign that in
People say that he went batshit crazy after being at NY at 9/11.

I have never read ASB&R but from what I've seen online this thing is HILARIOUS, so bad it's good like a B movie that takes itself serioulsy. Too bad he will never finish it. Hell, I'll be suprised if the dude will complete DK3, he is sick as hell (cancer).
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Gonen32: People say that he went batshit crazy after being at NY at 9/11.

I have never read ASB&R but from what I've seen online this thing is HILARIOUS, so bad it's good like a B movie that takes itself serioulsy. Too bad he will never finish it. Hell, I'll be suprised if the dude will complete DK3, he is sick as hell (cancer).
well being there in new new york at 9/11 would sure as hell be traumatising
especially if you were near the twin towers when it happend

all star batman and robin is just awfull
people are now backpedalling saying that its supposed to be this hard boiled b movie satire and parody
but i still remember that when it launched this was supposed to be a new a gritty realistic retelling of the dark knight to be taken absolutley seriously
which is why its a good thing azerello is there to take the edge of

i only recently ( ie yesterday ) learned that miller has cancer but i dont know the particularies
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Gonen32: Hell, I'll be suprised if the dude will complete DK3, he is sick as hell (cancer).
That's why they have Azzarello on it. Honestly, I wonder how much Miller will actually contribute to it, my first though when I heard about it was that he will be author in name only, and Azzarello will basically write the whole thing. That may be just wishful thinking though.
If they turn it into a movie, I'm totally watching it at home and skipping the theater. :)
Now, the really funny thing is, the mainstream Batman comics have gone so completely off the rails with oh-so-edgy and grimdark stuff or just plain pants on your head crazy shit (that last one is commisioner Gordon btw), that Miller's stuff no longer really stands out so much. All-Star Batman & Robin could pretty much be in continuity now.
Post edited July 15, 2015 by Breja
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Breja: That's why they have Azzarello on it. Honestly, I wonder how much Miller will actually contribute to it, my first though when I heard about it was that he will be author in name only, and Azzarello will basically write the whole thing. That may be just wishful thinking though.
according to the article "DC additionally confirmed that Miller will illustrate portions of the interior artwork, along with covers. "

so most likley he is doing some of the interiors the covers and provided the story while the actual scripting is done by azzerello
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Breja: Now, the really funny thing is, the mainstream Batman comics have gone so completely off the rails with oh-so-edgy and grimdark stuff or just plain pants on your head crazy shit (that last one is commisioner Gordon btw), that Miller's stuff no longer really stands out so much. All-Star Batman & Robin could pretty much be in continuity now.
i gave up on batman V2 with zero year
the story went no wehere the climax was as usual with snyder an anti climax and i was getting tired of the slow burn
i dont read the trades im one of thos eloons who still buys monthly issues
Post edited July 15, 2015 by snowkatt
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Gonen32: People say that he went batshit crazy after being at NY at 9/11.

I have never read ASB&R but from what I've seen online this thing is HILARIOUS, so bad it's good like a B movie that takes itself serioulsy. Too bad he will never finish it. Hell, I'll be suprised if the dude will complete DK3, he is sick as hell (cancer).
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snowkatt: well being there in new new york at 9/11 would sure as hell be traumatising
especially if you were near the twin towers when it happend

all star batman and robin is just awfull
people are now backpedalling saying that its supposed to be this hard boiled b movie satire and parody
but i still remember that when it launched this was supposed to be a new a gritty realistic retelling of the dark knight to be taken absolutley seriously
which is why its a good thing azerello is there to take the edge of

i only recently ( ie yesterday ) learned that miller has cancer but i dont know the particularies
Look at some photos of him from last year, he looks horrible. I think he won't live long.
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Gonen32: Look at some photos of him from last year, he looks horrible. I think he won't live long.
...yeah http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PjQR5DuuW5A/VIG-5-ZY2SI/AAAAAAAAGps/ZZfgTRq4tgY/s1600/Frank%2BMiller%2BpB6zlOS.png