^ All is solved now! GG

-_-'

and gOg do. They have sales for them, competitions, and give away the occasional free game. This is how gOg rewards their loyal customers, as they have always done. So that is the principle you have, and never lost.

Again, I ask you, what have you lost by gOg adding Connect.

However, it is rather silly to think they would give their largest competitor some of their customers. That does not make sense. Snipe the competitions customers, yes... give them theirs, no....

A free old game every now and then is not as bad.
Old customers could still miss it or have bought it cheap anyway.

And again, sales and competitions are for every customer, not just for loyal ones.


Another strange reasoning of yours.
Example: if the Government decided to give money randomly to your neighbour, you wouldn't lose anything, but that would be still unjust..


I know, that's why I don't like Connect as it is.

Jealousy or not, I'm convinced most of the drama would have been averted should GOG have offered some sort of "compensation" to any existing user that decided to opt out of the Connect program (much like mrkgnao's proposal). That way, nearly nobody would have complained...

...or maybe then we'd be witnessing lots of jeaolous adscribers of the Connect program who'd also want wathever the other party is being given. :D

Definitely wouldn't mind that. They obviously don't care about what made GOG different and brought that core customer base here.

Those apply to old, newer and very new users just as well, and regardless of loyalty.

To quote myself:
Amen to that. And again, this being the problem at least since the "good news", if not even earlier.
Connect is just a small addition along that same line. Personally I just raised an eyebrow and shrugged it off, there are the big issues that get me riled up. Here I was just sort of stepping into an argument to explain why it may bother loyal customers who are on GOG just because it is, or at least WAS, different.

So you want a 'secret gOg club'.... I am not sure what you actually want. What you have said so far is jealousy, and now yoi want to do what? And what is the difference here between "every customer" and "loyal customer"?

A year or so ago, gOg gave a lot of goodies to the customers who had 1000+ games, that was quite neat. And nothing any other DD store have done. gOg take good care of loyal customers, and provide them with lots of incentives. What else do you want from them?

Why? and this is not randomly. If my neighbor gets a grant, or child benefits when I do not apply for it, not have any children, then good for them.

that made no sense, what-so-ever... sorry.
again, that has the assumption that people who do not use steam somehow "looses" something. exactly what is lost?

They do, by providing good DRM free games, a good library, extra goodies, holding sales, running some competitions and giving away the occasional free games.

What more do you want?

So what do you want? A 'secret' sale for people who have more than 1000 games or joined before 2010? A discount based on forum rep? Or maybe some sort of secret code ring sent in the mail so you "loyal customers"can identify each others as the ruling elite? And what is a "loyal customer" anyway. As said above, gOg gave a way some t-shirts and goodeies to the users who had 1000+ games some time ago, that was neat. gOg do take care of loyal customers by providing the service they need and want... which is what they should do.


And they do. By providing you with DRM free games, extras, sales etc... I ask you again ,what else do you want?

The amount of people complaining won't even register as a dot on GOG's OR anybody's radar really.

Several people (including myself) have already answered that: some sort of compensation to whoever opts out of the Connect program should do the trick.

But then you'll switch to the "you're loosing nothing" argument, so there's no convincing you. :P

indeed, for what are you being compensated for?

What do you mean? Right now, or in the alternative case scenario I suggested?

You keep repeating that, but it should be clear by now.
I don't want a GOG Connect like that.

See above.


That was a good move* that I appreciated, and I don't even belong to that group. (so.. no jealousy)
(*even if Gog forgot to consider the big gifters..)
Still, you cannot compare goodies for a few people vs free Gog games for hundreds of Steam users..


Ok, forget your neighbor friend, so you can focus on the general meaning.
If the government started to freely give away (more?) money to politicians' friends & families, wouldn't you be annoyed? You wouldn't lose anything directly and you would be just a "jealous" person, following your reasoning.

Depending completely on context. There is no "one-size fit all" here.

You can indeed compare it to the child benefits, i.e. someone gets the benefits when having a child, others who do not have do not. In this case it is exactly the same, gOg launches a campaign for those who have a Steam account. Which means that those who have an Steam account with the games benefits, and those who do not have it do not. That makes perfect sense to me.

However, if we use your example, it would mean that gOg Connect only benefited Steam employees and families, which is clearly not the case here. Basically, what you are saying - "would you find a unfair situation unfair" which off course it is, but luckily, this situation here with Connect is not unfair.

Meant Steam users don't care. They wouldn't be on Steam if they did.

Need I quote myself again?
For Connect especially, not much of anything, said before that I basically shrugged it off and now I'm just stepping in to try to explain my understanding of why others are bothered by it in particular.
Personally and in general, I want what brought me here and made me support GOG in the first place, way back, when my interaction with other businesses in the field, past or present, has largely been limited to bashing the model and agenda. So sticking to some principles, fighting for them and catering to an audience that cares for the same ones, niche as it may be, not putting business aspects, growth, market share, new users regardless of their interests first.
Basically, "Look, we run this store according to these rules and principles and we try to push them on the industry as a whole. If you share them, awesome, we definitely want you here and we'll take good care of you. If you disagree with them, go somewhere else, we won't miss you. If you don't care, feel free to come and go as your please; we'd like you around but understand that our core audience will always come first, no matter what."
Or to quote THEM, well, this. “If there is a backbone of your business and you change it, you are destroying your business. It will come in time, maybe today you will make a fast dollar, but afterwards you will deeply regret it. That’s how we see that.” And later in that same talk: “The moment we will betray our values, the whole GOG will explode and that’s the end of it.”

and this is how gOg tries to make them care. Which is a good thing, right? to reduce the stronghold of Steam?

How have this changed with the inclusion of Connect?

Indeed, which is why gOg is reaching out to Steam users now.

And how have this changed for you now with Connect?

Indeed, which is, again, why you should embrace this initiative as it may lead to more Steam users realizing exactly this.

And with the inclusion of Connect - how have this changed?

edit - you have basically here produced a very good argument for why gOg should step up this initiative, to lead more Steam users out from Steam to gOg.