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§pec†re: Why bother with China when you have cultural censorship and control going on right under your noses.
like here?
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Tokyo_Bunny_8990: Given the fact that most Chinese PC gamers are tech savvy, they will likely just bypass the firewall to access steam.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: So why did GOG ban Devotion then if it doesn't matter whether or not it's banned?
There is a difference between a company toeing the line to enter the market and the consumers bypassing that regulation for another product.

Corporations like Nintendo and Sony produce Chinese versions of consoles so they can enter the market.
https://screenrant.com/nintendo-switch-china-censorship-chinese-version-scalpers/

However, Chinese consumers arn't buying, not because they arn't interested in consoles but because they don't want the nerfed Chinese versions. Instead, Chinese consumers are purchasing imported versions of the Switch that arn't restricted to only 3 games, even if they have to pay a premium to do so.

Don't know how the steam ban is going to affect Chinese steam consumers but even the article below notes that Chinese consumers are going to use VPN to bypass the firewall.
https://www.ginx.tv/en/video-games/china-bans-international-version-of-steam

How much they will be able to do with steam through firewall, I think still needs to wait to be seen.
China has enough coal to create their own steam...
I just inquired about China’s national IPC/IP domain name information record management system, STEAM, did not enter the blacklist at all. Suspected that the fake PS pictures transmitted online is because the V social server is too bad and can’t be uploaded.
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Orkhepaj: like here?
That's a B-i-n-g-o



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AK18200186533: I just inquired about China’s national IPC/IP domain name information record management system, STEAM, did not enter the blacklist at all. Suspected that the fake PS pictures transmitted online is because the V social server is too bad and can’t be uploaded.
*Looks at pic* Are they still using web design from the early 90's? o.0
Well, now I can at least say the Gog forum software isn't as bad, after seeing that.
Post edited December 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
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Wait...what?? Since when do they BUY games? Like, literally the most pirated crap on the planet is because of china lol
Its not even racist, statistics!
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ChuckBeaver: Like, literally the most pirated crap on the planet is because of china lol
Afaik that region is one of the most IP infringing(knockoffs/etc) for games/other media/things in general
(of course if I am wrong, someone may feel free to correct me)
Post edited December 27, 2021 by GamezRanker
I don't know what this so-called "ban" is about. I bought a game on Steam last night and downloaded it - Terminator Resistance. I just got tired of waitng for this game to be discounted on GOG. There were several sales for this game on Steam this year and not one for GOG. Right now it's 50% off on Steam. Sorry GOG, I just couldn't wait.

I accessed Steam from within China two minutes ago and it's working fine.

I know pretty well how China censors it's internet. I've had to live with it for the past eight years. I can tell you with almost certainty that Steam would not be outright banned in China. They don't do things that way. Steam is very popular in China. And I mean extrememly popular. It would cause too much of an outrage to have a total sudden ban on Steam. When they want to ban a website that is popular in China or when a ban might disrupt business they do it in stages.

Some years ago when Google announced that it would no longer censor search results it wasn't blocked immediately. First gmail became unavailable for short periods, then longer periods to force people in China to use another email service. Then the Google website was blocked for short periods and then after a while it was completely blocked and remains so to this day.

If there was a short period of time when Steam was in fact "banned" my guess is that it was done to send Steam a message. Maybe the government asked Steam to remove a game from their website and it wasn't done fast enough. Or maybe they had some other gripe. The government likes to remind people who is boss. A year ago there was a foreign-owned hotel in China that had its website taken down for a week to teach it a lesson about toeing the government line.

In any case there is no Steam ban. It's open for business right now.
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laser_eyes: In any case there is no Steam ban. It's open for business right now.
http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.steampowered.com

Go report yourself to nearest party official that you have been using blocked sites.
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laser_eyes: In any case there is no Steam ban. It's open for business right now.
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Leevi: http://www.chinafirewalltest.com/?siteurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstore.steampowered.com

Go report yourself to nearest party official that you have been using blocked sites.
I notice that webstie tests five locations. I am in Hangzhou, not one of those locations.
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laser_eyes: I don't know what this so-called "ban" is about. I bought a game on Steam last night and downloaded it - Terminator Resistance. I just got tired of waitng for this game to be discounted on GOG. There were several sales for this game on Steam this year and not one for GOG. Right now it's 50% off on Steam. Sorry GOG, I just couldn't wait.

I accessed Steam from within China two minutes ago and it's working fine.

I know pretty well how China censors it's internet. I've had to live with it for the past eight years. I can tell you with almost certainty that Steam would not be outright banned in China. They don't do things that way. Steam is very popular in China. And I mean extrememly popular. It would cause too much of an outrage to have a total sudden ban on Steam. When they want to ban a website that is popular in China or when a ban might disrupt business they do it in stages.

Some years ago when Google announced that it would no longer censor search results it wasn't blocked immediately. First gmail became unavailable for short periods, then longer periods to force people in China to use another email service. Then the Google website was blocked for short periods and then after a while it was completely blocked and remains so to this day.

If there was a short period of time when Steam was in fact "banned" my guess is that it was done to send Steam a message. Maybe the government asked Steam to remove a game from their website and it wasn't done fast enough. Or maybe they had some other gripe. The government likes to remind people who is boss. A year ago there was a foreign-owned hotel in China that had its website taken down for a week to teach it a lesson about toeing the government line.

In any case there is no Steam ban. It's open for business right now.
How it is to live in a country with camera st each corner with peoples ranking system for they behaviour? It smells like georges orwell 1984 book.
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laser_eyes: snip
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blutok: How it is to live in a country with camera st each corner with peoples ranking system for they behaviour? It smells like georges orwell 1984 book.
and appears to be a system heading for Europe very very soon.
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blutok: How it is to live in a country with camera st each corner with peoples ranking system for they behaviour? It smells like georges orwell 1984 book.
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darthspudius: and appears to be a system heading for Europe very very soon.
Whole European Union seems to drift away towards communist style of leadership.
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Amazing how people are being negged for having opinions against CCP...
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Niggles: Amazing how people are being negged for having opinions against CCP...
just the usual , and support does nothing against these , except if it is gamezranker :(
this is the modern light censoring , just make rules and apply them to your liking