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Surprised this thread hasn't started yet, the closest I could find (through gog's own forum search and the internet) is a thread about the trailer from 6 months ago that inevitably descended into political BS discussion.
If I'm mistaken, and there is a thread, sorry, please direct me to it!

So, how is everyone liking it so far? I'm enjoying it nominally, but that may just be nostalgia for Patrick Stewart's Picard.

I am not a super-fan, probably couldn't name a single episode or plotline, but I grew up to TNG showing on TV when I was a kid. Apparently there's a lot of references and continuity tying up that's being appreciated by the fans (after they saw all 3 of the recent episodes), but all that is going straight over my head.

It seems they'll finally be getting into the swing of the season with the next episode, having done all the setup in these first 3. Be nice if they can now settle into a "thing happens every week" structure with the characters doing something new in a new place, and the episode exploring some different sci-fi concept, but I worry the plot doesn't really allow for that.

As for the inevitable comparisons to Star Trek: Discovery, I've become incredibly jaded and apathetic to most media these days, and I don't feel super strongly about this yet, nor did I feel strongly about Discovery. If I used "what do I remember about the character names" as a measure (an admittedly imperfect one), all I can remember about the Discovery was that the lead had a traditionally male name. Then again, I've just finished the 3rd episode of this one, and the only name I can remember (aside from the titualar Picard, of course) is "Tasha".

So how are you all liking it? I'm bad at initiating these discussions :D.
Post edited February 08, 2020 by babark
I've only seen the first two episodes. I like the atmosphere, and the 'mystery'. The action sequences seem to be a bit "forced", but luckily, they're short.
Also, Romulans shouldn't have beards... they look human enough as is.
I'm going to stop watching now, until all episodes have been aired.

It looks like it's going to be a lot better than Discovery. First season: bad plot, stupid characters. Second season: they've inserted the thing I like the least about The Orville: the lowbrow sitcom style humor.
Post edited February 08, 2020 by teceem
It doesn't need "fucking", idiots with tattoos, or smoking. I hope by 2399 that nobody is still saying "pro tip" in real life.
Shame it’s on drm telly, would like to watch it. Suppose we will have to get used to everything being split out into millions of separate streaming sites again.
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teceem: I've only seen the first two episodes. I like the atmosphere, and the 'mystery'. The action sequences seem to be a bit "forced", but luckily, they're short.
Also, Romulans shouldn't have beards... they look human enough as is.
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Are you discriminating against hipster romulans?
Post edited February 08, 2020 by nightcraw1er.488
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nightcraw1er.488: Are you discriminating against hipster romulans?
They've gotten soft! The old Romulans wouldn't stand for the chaos of beard hair growth. And grooming it uses up time, better spent at scheming it up.

Edit: but if I had to guess at a 'logic' behind it... in the past, a shaven face was sometimes linked to the military - and here, a certain Romulan is trying to hide his government (or beyond) involvement.
Post edited February 08, 2020 by teceem
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nightcraw1er.488: Are you discriminating against hipster romulans?
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teceem: They've gotten soft! The old Romulans wouldn't stand for the chaos of beard hair growth. And grooming it uses up time, better spent at scheming it up.

Edit: but if I had to guess at a 'logic' behind it... in the past, a shaven face was sometimes linked to the military - and here, a certain Romulan is trying to hide his government (or beyond) involvement.
Yes, but this isn’t the 80s here you know, they have learnt to embrace their feminine side...
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nightcraw1er.488: Yes, but this isn’t the 80s here you know, they have learnt to embrace their feminine side...
Didn't they do that in the 80s? Insert an episode about some alien (rubber masks / ridges on their faces) amazon female warriors tribe. I would hardly call beards 'feminine' :-P
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babark: So, how is everyone liking it so far?
As far as I can say after just three episodes: I like it, and I'm cautiously optimistic for the future episodes.

Looks like everything may get into gears now, after the set up is completed and they have a crew of mavericks together, and actually take off into space again.
Why do the current owners of Trek keep trying to push this grimdark crap? The Federation is supposed to be a UTOPIA, they would never refuse to evacuate Romulan civilians because the Romulan Empire was their rival/enemy.
Post edited February 09, 2020 by Crosmando
It's not Star Trek. It's pretty much ruined all the good things about the federation etc. It's poorly written sci-fi by non Trek fans for non Trek fans and not just that, it's generally aimed at easily amused stupid people. It could have easily have been a Star Wars show or any other generic sci-fi series. They're just milking the name.
It's all a bit blatant. Major corruption in Star Fleet. Massive militarised Romulan presence on Earth. Design-limited androids nonetheless able to destroy Mars. It seems a bit crude to say the least. More could have been done with less.
SPOILERS! Don't click the link if you want to watch the show (probably), it's not that big a spoiler thing actually as they just review the first episode and give thoughts on it and where it might go plus their usual ramblings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfQdf93e63I

Redlettermedia Picard discussion. They don't like it much for good reasons.
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Honestly, it's a bit hard to judge it now, becuase as is the case with mostmodern shows that are all one long story arc, only at the end will we know if any of it adds up to anything of value. Personally I don't like all the mysteries and secrets that are being forced into seemingly every show these days, just so that people may endlessly speculate about it. A show doesn't need to be fan theory fodder to be interesting. There's also way too much of really bad exposition dialgoue, although I hope that ends with the 3rd episode.

So far I can say this much - it's way too slow. I know Trek isn't all about action, but it was always about very efficient storytelling. It used to cover a complete, often complex narrative full of new ideas in 45 minutes every week. Now in 3 episodes things barely moved at all.

As a long time fan (I rewatched TNG for what must be at least a 4th time last year, and I'm rewatching DS9 for at least the 3rd time right now), I can already say that the timeline makes very little sense here. Apparently in 6 years we went from "no one, even Data, could succesfully recreate a Soong-type android" to mass producing them, just like that. Also apparently they were basically used as slave labor, exactly what the legendary episode Measure of a Man was supposed to prevent, yet never is it even discussed.

As for what they are doing to Trek's utopia - whether I will hate it depends on where it goes. I don't mind exploring things going wrong as long as the end of that plot is hopefull and positive and reaffairms trek's utopian ideals. At least Picard is still a man of principle and they didn't compromise him as a character. Also let's face it - Starfleet admirals being, evil, corrupt or insane is basically a Trek tradition.

I will keep watching. I'm not amazed, I don't love it, but at least I don't hate it either like I immediately did Discovery. I do love Stewart, I'm curious about Hugh and I like the intro. That's something at least. But I do regret this show basically makes the comic "Countdown" non-canon, as I liked it much more as a possible future for the TNG crew. And it's kind of hard to figure out how it can be non-canon, if the destruction of Romulus from the 2009 film still is canon, and that comic is a downright necessary tie-in into those events.
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babark: a thread about the trailer from 6 months ago that inevitably descended into political BS discussion.
As this one likely will too, sadly, at which point I will go back to lurking silently.
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Crosmando: Why do the current owners of Trek keep trying to push this grimdark crap? The Federation is supposed to be a UTOPIA, they would never refuse to evacuate Romulan civilians because the Romulan Empire was their rival/enemy.
Actually if anything the story in Picard is all to familiar. Remember Star Trek VI? That's basicaly the same set-up - catastrophe in the Klingon Empire, and a very strong push back against helping them from some of Starfleet's top bras. Right down to a conspiracy to murder the chancellor and torpedo the peace initiative.
Post edited February 09, 2020 by Breja
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Breja: Actually if anything the story in Picard is all to familiar. Remember Star Trek VI? That's basicaly the same set-up - catastrophe in the Klingon Empire, and a very strong push back against helping them from some of Starfleet's top bras. Right down to a conspiracy to murder the chancellor and torpedo the peace initiative.
I've just come back from my time travel to ancient Greece. They were complaining about something like that too. Next trip: interview Shakespeare critics in the 17th century!

I think I make a good point, but go ahead - call me a troll!
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teceem: I think I make a good point, but go ahead - call me a troll!
I've no idea what point you're trying to make.