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PixelBoy: Now honestly, if some people get something worth 70 dollars, whereas some others don't even get a chance to participate, how can anyone say that this is fair for all users?
But you had a chance to participate. Or did anyone (except yourself) was hindering you from using the wishlist?
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If you've been here for a while, just think for a moment about all the games you've received for free from GOG. I'm sure I've got dozens in my catalog that were given away.

If you missed this one, like me, make a small curse at kismet and then walk away. You didn't get harmed. And there will be many free games in the future.
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I have "decent, reasonable and civil forum community" on my wishlist, and I didn't get one. I'm really disappointed.
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Breja: I have "decent, reasonable and civil forum community" on my wishlist, and I didn't get one. I'm really disappointed.
Good idea:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/decent_reasonable_and_civil_forum_community
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hedwards: It's fundamentally unfair to have a giveaway where random people just get so much when other people get to suffer for such an arbitrary decision.
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wpegg: Nobody has "suffered".

GOG can give games to whoever they please, based on whatever criteria they please. It appears they chose to spontaneously reward wishlisters. It doesn't seem random, the game was on the wishlist, which suggests it was wanted. If we don't put a game on the wishlist it either suggests we don't want it, or we don't want GOG to know we want it. Either way, their giveaway was entirely reasonable on identifying those most likely to want the game.
Everyone has suffered. Those who got free games, those who didn't, developers, publishers, and GOG itself.

Of course GOG can do anything, as long as it's legal. But for a business it would be a good approach to respect all parties equally and be as transparent and open about things as possible.

"Guillaume Rambourg: We have only two price points on GoG – we have $5.99 and $9.99. So as such we have already quite a pure message for the users. So of course we run promotions, but we are not so much into it. We believe that the best way to promote the games it not to have promotions all the time, but to put your heart into it. That's why we specialise in reviving the brands by adding some exclusive interviews, talking to the guys who made those games. I think this is the best way, not to dive into endless promotions all the time, and devalue the products."

(emphasis added)
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-09-24-gogs-guillaume-rambourg-interview

What kind of a message does GOG send out these days?
Some users get benefits, while others do not?
Some users get $70 worth of freebies (talk about devaluing products right there!!), not necessarily even wanting them that badly, but just happening to click to right button one or twice.

How does anything that happened here inspire my confidence as a long-term GOG customer to keep spending my money here? GOG is going against their own principles one at the time.

Well, whatever. I guess Good Old Games is really gone.


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PixelBoy: Now honestly, if some people get something worth 70 dollars, whereas some others don't even get a chance to participate, how can anyone say that this is fair for all users?
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PaterAlf: But you had a chance to participate. Or did anyone (except yourself) was hindering you from using the wishlist?
Well, the fact that you can't wishlist games anywhere else than game cards kind of makes it very hard to wishlist a large number of games. But the greater problem is that wishlist has been, up until now, a completely useless feature. Some have used it to spot some discounts, but other than that, it had no use.

Now all of sudden, it does. No one knew using wishlists was an entry ticket to something. Or a subscription to game removal notifications, which have been asked for the last eight years or so.

If you don't see the fundamental problem here, fine, OK, but there really is one. A big one.
Now we are talking about "suffering"? Lmao.
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PixelBoy: Well, the fact that you can't wishlist games anywhere else than game cards kind of makes it very hard to wishlist a large number of games. But the greater problem is that wishlist has been, up until now, a completely useless feature. Some have used it to spot some discounts, but other than that, it had no use.

Now all of sudden, it does. No one knew using wishlists was an entry ticket to something. Or a subscription to game removal notifications, which have been asked for the last eight years or so.

If you don't see the fundamental problem here, fine, OK, but there really is one. A big one.
I can agree that it's problematic to only notify people with wishlisted games about the removal.

But we have to disagree about the rest. Using the wishlist to give away the games to people who really wanted them (and put them on the wishlist because of that) was a good idea in my eyes.
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PixelBoy: Everyone has suffered. Those who got free games, those who didn't, developers, publishers, and GOG itself.
Indeed, the suffering inflicted here knows no bounds. Chaos is inevitable. The signs align themselves as an ill omen. Havoc is upon the lands, and history will be written with the blood of the vanquished, for as the stars bejewel the darkening sky evil lurking in obscurity is twisting and corrupting souls.

I mean, if you're going to go with ridiculous, dramatic hyperbole you can at least put some heart into it.

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PixelBoy: How does anything that happened here inspire my confidence as a long-term GOG customer to keep spending my money here?
I don't know. We've sent search parties to find some connection between this givaway and any customers spending habits, but so far there's no trace of it.

Seriously, when I buy a game, the only thing I'm entitled to and the only thing I expect is that game. It has nothing to do with any freebies, giveaways or anything of the sort.

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PixelBoy: Well, whatever. I guess Good Old Games is really gone.
And it only took you six years to notice!

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Breja: I have "decent, reasonable and civil forum community" on my wishlist, and I didn't get one. I'm really disappointed.
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tinyE: Good idea:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/decent_reasonable_and_civil_forum_community
Voted, but I'm afraid you might have a wish harder to accomplish than getting Diablo and Warcraft here.
Post edited November 26, 2018 by Breja
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KoreaBeat: I got Rime, very cool, thank you!
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MarkoH01: Really? That is not a Telltale game and would change the "rules" for this giveaway completely.
Oh you're right, I double-checked and it was Tales of Monkey Island. I didn't even remember the Rime giveaway.
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PixelBoy: Everyone has suffered. Those who got free games, those who didn't, developers, publishers, and GOG itself.
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Breja: Indeed, the suffering inflicted here knows no bounds. Chaos is inevitable. The signs align themselves as an ill omen. Havoc is upon the lands, and history will be written with the blood of the vanquished, for as the stars bejewel the darkening sky evil lurking in obscurity is twisting and corrupting souls.

I mean, if you're going to go with ridiculous, dramatic hyperbole you can at least put some heart into it.
I could, but I wasn't the one coining that term in this conversation. Two other guys used it before me. Go after them.
Whichever word you choose to use, it doesn't change the facts.

A business doing random things which shake long-term customers' faith in their service and devalue their own products is not something you would celebrate with a party hat.


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PixelBoy: How does anything that happened here inspire my confidence as a long-term GOG customer to keep spending my money here?
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Breja: I don't know. We've sent search parties to find some connection between this givaway and any customers spending habits, but so far there's no trace of it.

Seriously, when I buy a game, the only thing I'm entitled to and the only thing I expect is that game. It has nothing to do with any freebies, giveaways or anything of the sort.
Good for you.
But some people do mind about paying different prices for the same service, or having a system of random benefits which does not treat all customers equally, and other such things.
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chandra: ...

To clarify one thing, as previously mentioned, this was limited to a select number of titles but everyone that had wishlisted them have received them.
If someone had just one title out of the selected ones in their library, they would get one game. If they had, let's say three out of these selected titles, they would get three games and so on.
Thank you Chandra for this clarification.
And again a thank you to GOG for this GA.

I don't give up the hope that all the whiners and haters will wake up one day, and will start to solve the real problems in this world.
There is a lot to do.
Post edited November 26, 2018 by gixgox
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It has been asked before by the whiners so I will provide one answer.

I didn't know that having a wishlist would provide me with a free game.
The only reason I started using this feature was to have an easy way to remember what games I want to eventually buy, but can't afford at this time.
I use the wishlist since...I don't remember, perhaps from the very beginning.
I use the wishlist in other sites too no matter what it is called. For example Amazon, Ebay, Skroutz .gr Public.gr and others. I add items that I want or that I find interesting enough to consider getting in the future.

Suddenly (good song) I received an email I got a free game from my wishlist.
It was good news, I was glad they gave games away. There are other Telltale games (which GOG gave away) which I do not own yet and which are not and never were in my wishlist. With the logic of the whiners here, I too should complain to GOG that I should have been informed about the giveaway as to add to my wishlist the games I don't really care about enough to click an icon (add to wishlist). I should probably whine and whine and whine about the almost certain end of the world that I didn't get a couple more games for free.
OH THE HUMANITY! I DIDN'T GET ALL THE FREE GAMES I COULD!!!!

There is a wishlist for years now. Use the wishlist and perhaps you will get lucky in the future.
FFS stop your bitching!
You didn't get a couple of free games, WHO THE FRAK CARES! You didn't lose anything. You weren't harmed. You were too lazy or whateverthefuckIdontgiveashitwhatthereasonwas to click on add to wishlist games.
Get over it you shit for brains whiny fraktards.
Post edited November 26, 2018 by trusteft
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Breja: I have "decent, reasonable and civil forum community" on my wishlist, and I didn't get one. I'm really disappointed.
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tinyE: Good idea:

https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/decent_reasonable_and_civil_forum_community
Voted!
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No this is terrible. I'm going on hunger strike until gog takes back the games it gave away.

Enough suffering already.
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OldOldGamer: Me too. Probably even longer.
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Paraharaha: My 9 years old niece is doing the same as you: if she wants something really badly, she holds the air...until she is realizing, that everybody has left the room.
Reminds me of an anecdote my father would always tell me. A learned doctor was approached by a mother with a petulant child.

Mother: "He threatens to hold his breath doctor, and I'm so afraid of him doing that, I just let him have what he wants".

Doctor: "Let him do it. If he manages to hold his breath long enough to pass out, he'll start breathing again the moment he blacks out. After that experience, he'll be unlikely to do it again."