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yogsloth: Well, neither do I, but that's because all of his various Housecore records are boring trash. :)
I don't even know what "housecore" means, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to know either. :)
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yogsloth: Well, neither do I, but that's because all of his various Housecore records are boring trash. :)
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skeletonbow: I don't even know what "housecore" means, but I'm pretty sure I don't want to know either. :)
http://www.thehousecorerecords.com/
Will there be after school detention if I answer this question improperly?
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tinyE: Getting rid of this avatar for starters.
...wait....can you do that?
Guys, is he allowed to do that?? How are we supposed to recognize him?! What are we gonna do with all those Cthulu jokes?
Post edited October 19, 2016 by zeogold
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tinyE: Getting rid of this avatar for starters.
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zeogold: ...wait....can you do that?
Guys, is he allowed to do that?? How are we supposed to recognize him?! What are we gonna do with all those Cthulu jokes?
Don't worry, it isn't letting me. :P
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zeogold: ...wait....can you do that?
Guys, is he allowed to do that?? How are we supposed to recognize him?! What are we gonna do with all those Cthulu jokes?
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tinyE: Don't worry, it isn't letting me. :P
Well, that's what happens when you upset The Old Ones.
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tinyE: Don't worry, it isn't letting me. :P
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zeogold: Well, that's what happens when you upset The Old Ones.
Fred and Barney?
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zeogold: Well, that's what happens when you upset The Old Ones.
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tinyE: Fred and Barney?
I said "old" not "prehistoric".
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tinyE: Lovecraft was a Nazi?
Not really a nazi, but he feared the end of civilization and was a proponent of dictatorship and very supportive of Mussolini's fascist regime. And very racist, even by his time's standard (it's pretty obvious in many of his novels : For example, black men are described in all the novels I read as simpletons, bestial creatures, or both). And he had a pretty dim view of "inferior classes" (be it by lineage, education, or place of birth). Or of anyone not of pure Anglo-Saxon birth.

So by my standards he was a batshit crazy politically engaged misanthropic shut-in who despised and feared pretty much everyone not Providence-born-educated-anglo-saxon or his immediate entourage. And that really seeps into his writings. The kind of creep I would avoid like the plague if he was alive today.

But, strangely, I can appreciate his writings and the whole mythos he started, even though they are the direct result of that big bag of neuroses.
Several reasons why

- He was a man of his times (even if he was an extreme representative) : It was trendy then for intellectual to see fascism and nazism as interesting alternatives to democracy. The rivers of blood had not yet been unleashed (apart from in some faraway places nobody cared about, like Mussolini's conquest of Ethiopia), so they were seen as "thought exercise" more than real threats. The same can be said about his racism (although, again, HPL's writings are often abysmal in this department even when compared to other guys from the same time, like Howard)

- The guy was brilliant. Even if I despise the views expressed in his political writings, they are an interesting read. And that quality gets into his fictions. The guy is a thinker and a poet, not some 2-bit youtuber hack

- His madness fueled his desperate view of life, a vivid imagination, and his nightmarish book-writing. No "white Anglo-Saxon blood will prevail" foolishness : In front of an uncaring and rational universe, EVERYONE is equally screwed. That's the reason his horror visions, while kitsch, can keep me awake even 1 century later.

- He was dead 35 years before my birth. Harder to keep a grudge that way

- As I said, the guy changed his views later in his life, he "mellowed out", and that can be felt in his writings.

So I don't even really manage to dislike him : The guy was crazy, miserable, ignored (he died of poverty) and he didn't know better. And the horrors that sprang from his imagination gave me too many thrills to keep a grudge against his stories (I was an avid "call of Cthulhu" player during my school years), even if I am somewhat appalled when I read some short stories again nowadays
Post edited October 20, 2016 by Kardwill
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tinyE: I don't care what it might be the root of. Fuck him.

I had no idea.

Getting rid of this avatar for starters.
Didn't mean for you to change your avatar. Might I suggest Mickey Mouse :D

In all seriousness - Lovecraft was a huge white supremacist. There's no getting around that. But...

He supported the Nazi ideology of the time (from his perspective in America). That's different than self-proclaimed Nazis today. Nazis today know what Hitler was all about. Lovecraft was across an ocean at the time and the true depravity of Nazi evil was mostly hidden from the rest of the world. Once it was discovered that the Nazis were all about genocide he disavowed them - believing genocide to be barbaric.
Post edited October 20, 2016 by tremere110
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tinyE: I don't care what it might be the root of. Fuck him.

I had no idea.

Getting rid of this avatar for starters.
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tremere110: Didn't mean for you to change your avatar. Might I suggest Mickey Mouse :D

In all seriousness - Lovecraft was a huge white supremacist. There's no getting around that. But...

He supported the Nazi ideology of the time. That's different than self-proclaimed Nazis today. Nazis today know what Hitler was all about. Lovecraft was across an ocean at the time and the true depravity of Nazi evil was mostly hidden from the rest of the world. Once it was discovered that the Nazis were all about genocide he disavowed them - believing genocide to be barbaric.
I'm still changing the avatar (if GOG lets me). :P Had this damn thing for 4 years and with the mini NES coming out next month I'm really loving this Metroid one I found.

I also took the Cthulhu fish off my car. I need a break from it.
If we knew everything about everyone, we would not support anyone, listen to any music, watch any movies, like anyone, or have any friends.

Just sayin'...

Ignorance is bliss.
Post edited October 20, 2016 by yyahoo
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yyahoo: If we knew everything about everyone, we would not support anyone, listen to any music, watch any movies, like anyone, or have any friends. Just sayin'...
Gandhi was an asshole and Mother Theresa cheated at Cribbage!
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yyahoo: If we knew everything about everyone, we would not support anyone, listen to any music, watch any movies, like anyone, or have any friends. Just sayin'...
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tinyE: Gandhi was an asshole and Mother Theresa cheated at Cribbage!
Wouldn't surprise me. ;)
Listening to some Napalm Death right now, the pathetic limp-wristed pinko Commie bastards.