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JuWalk: Bla bla
Strange that we've got a non-customer fighting the pro-porn corner ?. Do you regularly walk into random shops that you've never purchased from before and protest that they are not selling the stuff that you want to buy ?.
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Breja: I never said anything about removing games.
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LootHunter: Yes, you just said that you don't want them to be in the store in the first place.
No, no I did not. There's a big difference between saying that I think the "open floodgate" release strategy is bad, and demanding games be removed, which I never did.

Seriously, having any kind of sensible discussion on the subject on the forum is impossible. Between the two extreme groups of offended puritans and hyper defensive porn fans, it's just strawmen, strawmen, strawmen (and maybe straw sex dolls) as far as the eye can see.
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bombardier: Just because you can come up with some mental gymnastics
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LootHunter: The only one, who engages in mental gymnastics, is you. You start talking about how games with porn are bad and how people who like those games should not be on GOG. And when asked, why don't you want GOG not to cater to those people, you start to screech how it "alienates" you and people like you.
Are you functionally illiterate or just a troll?

I am not saying that people who like porn games should not be on GoG.
I am saying that they should be on GoG for normal games and on dedicated porn sites for their porn games.

We all eat and we all take shit. Just like my toilet is not next to my dining table, my porn stuff is not next to my non porn stuff.
Post edited January 15, 2022 by bombardier
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LootHunter: The only one, who engages in mental gymnastics, is you. You start talking about how games with porn are bad and how people who like those games should not be on GOG. And when asked, why don't you want GOG not to cater to those people, you start to screech how it "alienates" you and people like you.
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bombardier: Are you functionally illiterate or just a troll?

I am not saying that people who like porn games should not be on GoG.
I am saying that they should be on GoG for normal games and on dedicated porn sites for their porn games.

We all eat and we all take shit. Just like my toilet is not next to my dining table, my porn stuff is not next to my non porn stuff.
well said
everything has its own place
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LootHunter: The only one, who engages in mental gymnastics, is you. You start talking about how games with porn are bad and how people who like those games should not be on GOG. And when asked, why don't you want GOG not to cater to those people, you start to screech how it "alienates" you and people like you.
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bombardier: Are you functionally illiterate or just a troll?

I am not saying that people who like porn games should not be on GoG.
I am saying that they should be on GoG for normal games and on dedicated porn sites for their porn games.

We all eat and we all take shit. Just like my toilet is not next to my dining table, my porn stuff is not next to my non porn stuff.
GoG and some users believe that meat and vegetables can be in the same refrigerator. You say "I'm a vegan so everyone should keep meat away from vegetables". So I repeat my question: why are you trying so hard to turn GoG from a store for everyone into a "corral" only for your ideological brothers and sisters?
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JuWalk: None of you have named objective reasons for removing these games. This means that all your cries are an attempt to introduce censorship and dictatorship of a small group of users who imagine themselves better than others. And this is unacceptable

And now a counter question - why are you trying so hard to turn GoG from a store for everyone into a "corral" only for your ideological brothers and sisters?
If GoG was the last bastion of defense for porn I would agree with you, but it is not. Porn is everywhere. The whole world is flooded with porn. In media, porn is the same thing as excessive violence. When you have a clear lack of imagination, use one or the other.

THERE IS NO CENSORSHIP !

It is simply just a fact that GoG sold access to it's customer base to porn peddlers for a cut and now they have a backlash.

I am on GoG just because of curation process. Yes, sometimes good games don't get through, but it is much better than what we had on Steam. Now that Steam has implemented filtering functionality that works quite decent, and GoG filling substantial part of the releases with porn and no filtering, Steam is looking as a far superior option.

By looking at your account I can only presume that you are one of these porn pushers.
Do you really think that this tactics has a future for you or for GoG? You got access to more people, but how many of those people actually want you here? The result will only be GoG shutting down sooner than expected.

BTW, since I am not buying any more games from GoG, maybe you should start to make up for the difference. Your game catalogue is quite empty.
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LootHunter: The only one, who engages in mental gymnastics, is you. You start talking about how games with porn are bad and how people who like those games should not be on GOG. And when asked, why don't you want GOG not to cater to those people, you start to screech how it "alienates" you and people like you.
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bombardier: Are you functionally illiterate or just a troll?

I am not saying that people who like porn games should not be on GoG.
I am saying that they should be on GoG for normal games and on dedicated porn sites for their porn games.

We all eat and we all take shit. Just like my toilet is not next to my dining table, my porn stuff is not next to my non porn stuff.
Then why do people ask for Mass Effect or Dead Space games to be on GOG? Go buy EA shit in the Origin store!
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I'd like to point out that Song of Saya Director's Cut has explicit sex scenes involving a young girl who appears to be no older than 10. The game is blocked in Australia, as I expect it is in other countries too. In many countries this is classified as actual child porn.
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JuWalk: None of you have named objective reasons for removing these games. This means that all your cries are an attempt to introduce censorship and dictatorship of a small group of users who imagine themselves better than others. And this is unacceptable

And now a counter question - why are you trying so hard to turn GoG from a store for everyone into a "corral" only for your ideological brothers and sisters?
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bombardier: If GoG was the last bastion of defense for porn I would agree with you, but it is not. Porn is everywhere. The whole world is flooded with porn. In media, porn is the same thing as excessive violence. When you have a clear lack of imagination, use one or the other.

THERE IS NO CENSORSHIP !

It is simply just a fact that GoG sold access to it's customer base to porn peddlers for a cut and now they have a backlash.

I am on GoG just because of curation process. Yes, sometimes good games don't get through, but it is much better than what we had on Steam. Now that Steam has implemented filtering functionality that works quite decent, and GoG filling substantial part of the releases with porn and no filtering, Steam is looking as a far superior option.

By looking at your account I can only presume that you are one of these porn pushers.
Do you really think that this tactics has a future for you or for GoG? You got access to more people, but how many of those people actually want you here? The result will only be GoG shutting down sooner than expected.

BTW, since I am not buying any more games from GoG, maybe you should start to make up for the difference. Your game catalogue is quite empty.
1) If you say "In media, porn is the same thing as excessive violence" - why don't you resent the existence of games with this very violence in the store?
2) Lie. Within a particular store, this is exactly what censorship is. And not substantiated by anything other than "You should delete this because I don't like it". I have already asked many times to name at least one objective reason for fulfilling your requirements, but no one has managed to do this. There were only subjective demands in the style of "respect our wishes as long as we spit on the wishes of both other users and GoG owners".
3) Judging by the fact that sales of most of these games are very high, GoG won't lose much from your offended boycott ;)
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Crosmando: In many countries this is classified as actual child porn.
That reminds me of something...
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JuWalk: But games are just a bunch of pixels and nothing more. When I kill people in games, I don't really hurt anyone. By seducing someone in games, I do not harm anyone. By growing carrots in some farm simulator, I do not deprive real farmers of earnings. If a person cannot distinguish fiction from reality, the problem is in him, and not in games, cartoons, books or something else.

Do you agree with the removal of all shooters, racing, horror and many other games? Because we either remove EVERYTHING that can cause someone inconvenience due to their personal oversights, or we don’t touch anything.
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HappyPunkPotato: You keep trying to push this idea that people can't tell fact from fiction when that's obviously not true
Oh, yeah - that.
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LynXsh: thanks for sharing your opinion!
I still genuinely hope to get Frodo's one, though.
Hey no worries, thanks to you too for the civil chat!

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JuWalk: Lol. Look who is calling someone other a troll :D What, you don't like when others speak same language with you? People like you and DetouR6734 don't care about others, so why we should care about you guys?
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JuWalk: It's really funny to hear about living in bubble from peoples who at the same time say "Boohoo drawn boobs give me a psychological trauma so you should delete them" :D
I didn't take you for a troll but you clearly don't give a damn about other people so you can't really complain if people don't care about you either.

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JuWalk: You know what really humiliates and degrades women? The fact that among them there are such persons who are not able to distinguish drawings from living people, who can only whine "everyone offends me." A real strong and independent woman will never be infringed by pictures, because she is a person, not a crystal vase.
Oh, you're beating the you-can't-tell-the-difference-between-a-game-and-real-life dead horse again? Also implying that women who aren't strong and independent aren't real women whilst thinking you get to decide what really humiliates and degrades women.

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JuWalk: GoG and some users believe that meat and vegetables can be in the same refrigerator. You say "I'm a vegan so everyone should keep meat away from vegetables".
No, the vegan says "You shouldn't be having meat at all." And the health department says "You should keep your uncooked meat away from your vegetables anyway."

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JuWalk: Lie. Within a particular store, this is exactly what censorship is. And not substantiated by anything other than "You should delete this because I don't like it". I have already asked many times to name at least one objective reason for fulfilling your requirements, but no one has managed to do this. There were only subjective demands in the style of "respect our wishes as long as we spit on the wishes of both other users and GoG owners".
So let's come back to the racism question that you keep avoiding.
If a game was made by white people for white people featuring black people as nothing more than slaves and some black people weren't OK with it they would be selfish and spitting on others wishes? After all, it's just subjective.
If a game was made by men for men featuring women as sex objects and some women aren't OK with it...
Let's also consider that in the past (not in every country), women were literally owned by men.
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JuWalk: You know what really humiliates and degrades women? The fact that among them there are such persons who are not able to distinguish drawings from living people, who can only whine "everyone offends me." A real strong and independent woman will never be infringed by pictures, because she is a person, not a crystal vase.
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HappyPunkPotato: Oh, you're beating the you-can't-tell-the-difference-between-a-game-and-real-life dead horse again?
If you would look a few comments up, that horse is pretty much alive. People equate drawing sex with a short young anime character (that can remind someone of an underage girl) to actually forcing a real child to have sex.
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JuWalk: 1) If you say "In media, porn is the same thing as excessive violence" - why don't you resent the existence of games with this very violence in the store?
2) Lie. Within a particular store, this is exactly what censorship is. And not substantiated by anything other than "You should delete this because I don't like it". I have already asked many times to name at least one objective reason for fulfilling your requirements, but no one has managed to do this. There were only subjective demands in the style of "respect our wishes as long as we spit on the wishes of both other users and GoG owners".
3) Judging by the fact that sales of most of these games are very high, GoG won't lose much from your offended boycott ;)
1. I actually do, but currently there is a flood of porn games not a flood of murder simulators.

2. Not a lie. It is just you inability to acknowledge the truth because you have your agenda and are failing in argumentative thinking. By your own definition GoG's entire curation process is a censorship and it should be abolished.

3. Claim your sources for this information.
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LootHunter: The only one, who engages in mental gymnastics, is you. You start talking about how games with porn are bad and how people who like those games should not be on GOG. And when asked, why don't you want GOG not to cater to those people, you start to screech how it "alienates" you and people like you.
You are making this up. I said that people should no be here for the porn games. If they want porn games, they can easily get them in specialty stores that cater for their need.
If you take this literally then only people who came to GoG SOLELY to fulfill their masturbatory needs will not be here.
All other will buy normal games here and their porn on porn stores.

You realize that it is possible to have more than one game store in a world?
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HappyPunkPotato: Oh, you're beating the you-can't-tell-the-difference-between-a-game-and-real-life dead horse again?
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LootHunter: If you would look a few comments up, that horse is pretty much alive. People equate drawing sex with a short young anime character (that can remind someone of an underage girl) to actually forcing a real child to have sex.
Yeah but the vegan would say "Don't flog a horse anyway." :D

I read that comment more as saying imaginary child porn is wrong than saying the child was real. It does raise a point for the pro-porn folk to consider though, should a game that features cartoon child porn be available since it's only pixels? Even if that commenter really couldn't tell the difference between games and real life the phrase has still been used more as an "insult" in this thread to dismiss the opinions of people who think games have a broader effect on society.
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HappyPunkPotato: Oh, you're beating the you-can't-tell-the-difference-between-a-game-and-real-life dead horse again?
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LootHunter: If you would look a few comments up, that horse is pretty much alive. People equate drawing sex with a short young anime character (that can remind someone of an underage girl) to actually forcing a real child to have sex.
Nobody is saying that. They say that drawing sex scenes with prepubescent teens is actually drawing scenes with pedophilia themes.
How can you claim that pictures depicting child sex are not depicting child sex? If they didn't want to draw child sex, they would have drawn adult sex. Do you claim that artists tried to draw adult sex scene yet because of lack of their artistic knowledge they accidentally turned up like child sex scene?