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Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

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All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Oh man! I now have about 200 invalid gift codes.

The game is still on steam on sale. It's not completely gone.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by LindsayYates
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Gnostic: As I own the game, I know I can still install the game from my account, but will these games be removed from my account in the future? Which means that I have to make backup of the install files.
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Neobr10: No, GOG shouldn't remove the games from the accounts of people who own them. There have been games removed from GOG in the past and all of them are still available to download for those that own them. Not even Steam removes games from your account (i have NWN 2 on Steam which is not available for purchase anymore and i can still download it).
I don't think that was the case with Colin McRae Rally. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think all of the members that bought that game were told that they needed to download it before a certain date because it was being removed from their accounts and the GOG servers.

Edit: It could have been Toca Race driver, or both of those, but I'm pretty sure that it was a Codemasters game.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by JohnnyDollar
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Novotnus: For me it works the other way - minimal salary in Poland equals around $400 \ 300€ netto \ month (I shit you not, just looked it up) and still, in most cases we get standard EU prices (in Euro, of course - it's not our local currency, but, you know, it's EU) I can't imagine someone earning 300€ can afford any games offered there and $1 = 1€ policy doesn't make it better.
I'm not saying regional pricing is always a bad thing. I'm just saying GOG pricing works better for me :) And again, I'm not blaming Steam. Steam just offers a tool. Publishers use the tool as they want. And the way they use the tool determines if I'm buying their games not :)
That's exactly my point. There's nothing wrong with regional pricing itself, the problem is with how it is used. We have good examples of regional pricing (Russia, Brazil) and the bad examples (Poland, like you said, and i think Australia also gets some really high prices for some reason). But regional pricing itself isn't inherently bad. If you come to think about it, regional pricing is actually fairer than global prices if done right. Countries have different average incomes, after all.
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Thunderstone: DAMNIT!! I was going to use those codes for a giveaway and prizes for my guild, a little warning would have been nice on those codes becoming invalid.
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Vitek: There was warning by TET but I it was only in Fallout sub-forum.
I really really dislike when key information like this is only posted in the sub-forums. It should have been posted on the main page at the time of the give-away. As another GOGger posted it might have helped prevent the server issues GOG experienced that first opening give-away.

I know at least it would have stopped me from getting 3 copies to save for some future giveaway or trade.

Now they are worthless, sitting in my gift list. If they can never be redeemed I hope GOG removes them from my gifting list, as it would be false letting them remain and me thinking they are still valid codes.
Sad. But I would like to thank Gog.com for making them temporarily free (which is how I got them)!
You should always download anything you buy and back it up even though these are still in your accounts, it just goes to show you nothing lasts forever.. You could wake up tomorrow and GOG could be gone.. Who Knows..

As far as Bethesda goes.. If they continue with this Steam required to play I will not be buying.. Id rather spend all my game money at GOG.
Like many others here, I just hope they'll be back again some day!! Hopefully as soon as possible!
On a somewhat related note, I do hope GOG and Bethesda can work out a deal to bring these back and more.

How much do I hope?

Lets say that even though Arena and Daggerfall are available for free download from the Bethesda website, I would pay for them if Bethesda released them on GOG again just for the ease of installation such a release here would entail.
Such a shame for an incredible classic iconic gaming series of the old Fallouts to not be available DRM free anymore, outside of ebay and whatnot >_> . Anyways, this was all unfortunately quite predictable when Bethseda was going after Fallout from the beginning with Interplays troubles. They had to have been in trouble when they were trying to make a Fallout MMO =P Once Interplay shopped Fallout around on the market and Bethseda bought the Fallout license , it was only a matter of time even tho there was some clause where Interplay kept the older titles for awhile. The writing was on the wall from there, there was a invisible countdown when Fallout wouldn't be available anymore, at least here.

Luckily I have like multiple copies of the game physical and digital. It was truly my most beloved game. The story, the combat, the writing, the choices. It was a great memorable game and will be great missed here =(
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Neobr10: Not even Steam removes games from your account </snip>
Actually.... <span class="bold">it has.</span> After they stopped selling Order of War: Challenge, Steam then went through and eradicated it completely from all user libraries; no refund, no warning, no nothing. It's a weird case and it got kind of buried, but it has occurred in the past which means it will occur in the future. It's always a good practice to make back ups of games that have been pulled from a service. Can't hurt to burn em on a jump drive or a cd and stash them somewhere.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Melhelix
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Breja: People in general often enjoy having their rights and freedoms limited and taken away, when offered in return simple convenience or some useless trinkets (in this case- achievements and social features). The fact they enjoy it doesn't make it right. Not only is it wrong in principle, it causes harm to others, as the fact that majority is so keen on having their rights trampled makes it possible to trample everyones rights. In this case, the fact so many people don't mind DRM made it possible for DRM to become so prevalent in todays gaming.

I know the above paragraph may sound ridiculously grandiose in context of video games, but I belive the prinicple still applies, regardless of the subject matter.
You're being kind of pretentious, aren't you? Telling people what's right and wrong and what not, making it sound like a black and white issue of morality. But this isn't how things work.

Who are you to say that achievements and social features are useless? They might be useless to you, but there are many people that do care about them. The achievements thing was started by Microsoft with the Xbox 360, and most gaming companies have incorporated it in one way or another (Steam copied the idea and Sony made the trophies for PS3 games). The fact that it became so popular does indicate that it's far from being useless. There are even communities on the Xbox 360 dedicated to finding games with easily obtained achievements just to boost gamerscore. I don't give a fuck about achievements myself, but saying that achievements are useless is ridiculous. Unless you really want to dictate what people should enjoy and what they shouldn't.

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Breja: The fact they enjoy it doesn't make it right.
How not? Games are entertainment, people just buy what they enjoy. Period. Why should everyone be forced to go on a political crusade about things that they do not care? Games for me are about having fun, i already have serious issues to deal with in my ordinary life. I don't want to turn my gaming into a political agenda about issues that i don't care.

Steam offers features that people want. If DRM was so intrusive and prevented people from enjoying their legally purchased games, they would buy games elsewhere. There are many digital platforms out there. If Steam is the biggest platform it's because the pros outweigh the cons for the majority of people.

By the way, stop trying to turn your personal opinion into a fact. The fact that you think Steam is horrible doesn't make it an undeniable fact. And the fact that you care about DRM doesn't mean that everyone has to, especially when taking into consideraton that Steam is the least intrusive out there.

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Breja: People in general often enjoy having their rights and freedoms limited and taken away
Yeah, because games never ever had copy-protection to start with, right? You know, like being forced to have the CD in the drive, CD-keys for multiplayer, parts in the game that forced you to find answers on the manuals. I guess these never existed.

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Breja: Not only is it wrong in principle, it causes harm to others, as the fact that majority is so keen on having their rights trampled makes it possible to trample everyones rights.
Principle? Which principle? It causes harm to who? People have been enjoying their legally purchased games on Steam for years, who exactly is it causing harm to?

Again you're trying to turn your opinion into a fact. "Never put DRM in your games" doesn't sound like a principle accepted by the majority. And how exactly is Steam "trampling" everyone's rights? Let me try to explain it to you: Steam offers a service, people enjoy that service and start buying games on it. It's as simple as that. Don't like Steam? Vote with your wallet. No one is forcing you to buy from Steam. But you shouldn't force people to stop buying from Steam either.

Do you really expect me to believe that no one should buy games on Steam because you don't like it? Give me a break.

What's next? Valve killed jews during WW2?
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Melhelix: Actually.... <span class="bold">it has.</span> After they stopped selling Order of War: Challenge, Steam then went through and eradicated it completely from all user libraries; no refund, no warning, no nothing. It's a weird case and it got kind of buried, but it has occurred in the past which means it will occur in the future. It's always a good practice to make back ups of games that have been pulled from a service. Can't hurt to burn em on a jump drive or a cd and stash them somewhere.
But that's a completely different case. The game you mentioned was removed because it was always-online and the servers were shut down, rendering the game unplayable. But no game there has ever been removed because of legal issues.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Neobr10
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Melhelix: Actually.... <span class="bold">it has.</span> After they stopped selling Order of War: Challenge, Steam then went through and eradicated it completely from all user libraries; no refund, no warning, no nothing. It's a weird case and it got kind of buried, but it has occurred in the past which means it will occur in the future. It's always a good practice to make back ups of games that have been pulled from a service. Can't hurt to burn em on a jump drive or a cd and stash them somewhere.
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Neobr10: But that's a completely different case. The game you mentioned was removed because it was always-online and the servers were shut down, rendering the game unplayable. But no game there has ever been removed because of legal issues.
You stated that Steam does not remove games from user libraries. I provided an example where Steam has removed a game from user libraries. Why this occurred doesn't really have bearing, the fact remains it has occurred. If it has happened once, it is liable to happen in the future. People had a game in their library. Then that game no longer worked, fine. Then they woke up one morning and that game was like it never was. That's a little creepy. So, local backups are a good thing. Just my two cents. *shrug*
good bye, Fallolut
Dragon Age II has been removed from Steam including users libraries. As far I know.

About being able to download again and install a game removed from the shop, but still in user library I don't know, seems that if still in user library the user can still download and install it.

About Fallout series, it's a disappointment. I had already on CD the Fallout 1&2 and even Mac versions, for 1 there was a semi official port to OSX. I didn't get the series free on Gog but paid during some sale to have a good location where to download and install the game including a Mac version with a clean wrapper and install. The problem is Gog won't maintain anymore the installers and then it will be pointless to have get them here.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Senestoj
The issue with Steam is not that the benefits are useless to everyone. They're actually kinda fun in a weird and completely time wasting way, it's that the benefits they trade for DRM have allowed one scheme to take over and people defend it with a passion rather than flipping out like when someone dumps obnoxious DRM in a game with no trade-offs or simply saying "We can all have it our own way."

I don't mind Steam, I mind Steam exclusivity.