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Posted December 31, 2013
Today, we bid farewell to the legendary post-apocalyptic 2D classics.

Due to circumstances beyond our control, we needed to pull the three classic Fallout games, that is Fallout, Fallout 2, and Fallout Tactics, from sale and remove them from our DRM-free catalog. These classic titles have been with us since day one, that is for over 5 years now, and they were always one of the highlights of the selection of games that we offer. There are very few titles in the history of computer role-playing games, that have had so much impact on the gaming landscape, players' expectations, and even the popular culture. The iconic setting, the memorable quotes, and unparalleled amount of fun and challenge these games provide--it's all burned in the memory of a whole generation of gamers. Probably even more than just one generation. It was an honor to have you here, Fallout. Take good care of yourself out there, try not to mistake a gecko for G.E.C.K. (not even remotely the same thing!), and remember to take your Rad-X pills!

<img src="http://www.gog.com/upload/images/2013/12/0100650e79ca7799caa0064b2e2611a62396ed6f.png">

All those who acquired Fallout, Fallout 2, or Fallout Tactics on GOG.com prior to the date of removal (that is before Tuesday, December 31st 2013, at 3:59PM GMT), will still be able to download the games' install files (as well as the bonus content) via the "My Games" section of their user accounts. Gift-codes for these three games acquired in our recent giveaway are no longer valid. However, if you own a gift-code for any or all of them that was purchased outside of the said giveaway, you'll still be able to redeem it in the foreseeable future.

We sincerely apologize for all the inconvenience this situation may have caused you. We invite you to browse through 671 other fantastic titles offered in our DRM-free catalog of the best games in history, and we wish you a Happy New Year of gaming!
Posted December 31, 2013
Okay as much as I loved Dishonored I now hate Bethesda.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Gnostic: As I own the game, I know I can still install the game from my account, but will these games be removed from my account in the future? Which means that I have to make backup of the install files.
They should remain there indefinitely. I would make a backup just in case something happens to change that situation. With other games that have been taken down, their owners haven't reported losing the right to download them at any point.
Posted December 31, 2013
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sauvignon1: War...has changed.
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fablefire: It definitely has my friend.

Hey, want to burn some copies of Evangelion? :P
I got a torch lighter for Christmas, lets do this.
Posted December 31, 2013
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fablefire: It definitely has my friend.

Hey, want to burn some copies of Evangelion? :P
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sauvignon1: I got a torch lighter for Christmas, lets do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo

Lets do this. :P
Post edited December 31, 2013 by fablefire
Posted December 31, 2013
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Neobr10: I don't think "bribing" is the right word to describe it. Steam offers many features that people enjoy, that's why it's currently the biggest digital distribution platform. What's the problem with enjoying aumatic updates, achievements, low prices, Steamworkshop and the social features? Not everyone cares about DRM. And out of all the DRM methods, Steam is by far the least intrusive out there. It's not a matter of "bribing" customers, it's a matter of offering a service that people enjoy.
Nothing wrong with those. Low prices and Steamworkshop are nice, for the rest - I don't care but they don't bother me at all.
And I don't say Steam bribes people. Steam does what it should be doing - it offers things its audience wants. All I'm saying that publishers use those features to justify their 'Steam only' games.
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Neobr10: About the regional pricing stuff, i'd like to point out that it isn't always a bad thing. While thare are some regions that get some fucked up prices, there others that get lower prices, like Russia and Brazil. This is a good thing for countries with a much lower average income.

So, for me even when GOG matches the discount offered on Steam, Steam is still cheaper because i can pay in my local currency instead of dollars (which means i don't have to pay taxes over international transactions) and the price is already cheaper (the prices for our store don't follow the currency fluctuation). At the end of the day, guess which store is better for us? The one that offers a "global fair price" or the one that offers regional pricing? Stop assuming that "regional pricing is evil". This is not always the case.
For me it works the other way - minimal salary in Poland equals around $400 \ 300€ netto \ month (I shit you not, just looked it up) and still, in most cases we get standard EU prices (in Euro, of course - it's not our local currency, but, you know, it's EU) I can't imagine someone earning 300€ can afford any games offered there and $1 = 1€ policy doesn't make it better.
I'm not saying regional pricing is always a bad thing. I'm just saying GOG pricing works better for me :) And again, I'm not blaming Steam. Steam just offers a tool. Publishers use the tool as they want. And the way they use the tool determines if I'm buying their games not :)
Posted December 31, 2013
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mondo84: We still have Jack Keane 2.
Not enough, I demand Jack Keane 3, the epic conclusion to this dramatic trilogy!
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Grargar
Posted December 31, 2013
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mondo84: We still have Jack Keane 2.
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Grargar: Not enough, I demand Jack Keane 3, the epic conclusion to this dramatic trilogy!
I don't know if GOG's servers could handle the demand. ;)
Posted December 31, 2013
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Neobr10: Not everyone cares about DRM. And out of all the DRM methods, Steam is by far the least intrusive out there. It's not a matter of "bribing" customers, it's a matter of offering a service that people enjoy.
People in general often enjoy having their rights and freedoms limited and taken away, when offered in return simple convenience or some useless trinkets (in this case- achievements and social features). The fact they enjoy it doesn't make it right. Not only is it wrong in principle, it causes harm to others, as the fact that majority is so keen on having their rights trampled makes it possible to trample everyones rights. In this case, the fact so many people don't mind DRM made it possible for DRM to become so prevalent in todays gaming.

I know the above paragraph may sound ridiculously grandiose in context of video games, but I belive the prinicple still applies, regardless of the subject matter.
Posted December 31, 2013
Wow, damn shame. Hope you get the rights to sell them again because this was the only place I know of which not only sold digital DRM-free copies but also bundled them with terrific extras.

I'm still seeing the games up for download from other download services like Steam. That's a bummer because they still use DRM. Now they've not only got bragging in having the right to sell the classic Fallout games, they've got sole rights to distribute great games GOG.com once had.

Anyway, thank you so much for making the Fallout games available for free for the winter sale so we could add them to our game collections. Best tongue in cheek forewarning you've ever given to us, GOG.com. Although I actually got all three from the "pay what you want" promo you had for Interplay a while ago.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Eniena
Posted December 31, 2013
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haydenaurion: Fallout was what brought me to gog years ago.

I remember Fallout 3 was just coming out and I was interested in playing the originals as i'd heard of them but had never played them before. Searching some forums, I found out that getting original copies and getting them running was a bit tricky, but then a post mentioned a site called gog.com which not only had the Fallout games, but had them drm free as well as other games. The rest is history.

Shame to see them removed, but thanks gog and interplay for what became my very first purchases here. One of these days I need to play and beat them, but I keep getting wrapped up in something else. Too much backlog, lol.
More sad is, i think, that we will never see the old Betheda titles DRM free.
Posted December 31, 2013
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Neobr10: I don't think "bribing" is the right word to describe it. Steam offers many features that people enjoy, that's why it's currently the biggest digital distribution platform. What's the problem with enjoying aumatic updates, achievements, low prices, Steamworkshop and the social features? Not everyone cares about DRM. And out of all the DRM methods, Steam is by far the least intrusive out there. It's not a matter of "bribing" customers, it's a matter of offering a service that people enjoy.
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Novotnus: Nothing wrong with those. Low prices and Steamworkshop are nice, for the rest - I don't care but they don't bother me at all.
And I don't say Steam bribes people. Steam does what it should be doing - it offers things its audience wants. All I'm saying that publishers use those features to justify their 'Steam only' games.
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Neobr10: About the regional pricing stuff, i'd like to point out that it isn't always a bad thing. While thare are some regions that get some fucked up prices, there others that get lower prices, like Russia and Brazil. This is a good thing for countries with a much lower average income.

So, for me even when GOG matches the discount offered on Steam, Steam is still cheaper because i can pay in my local currency instead of dollars (which means i don't have to pay taxes over international transactions) and the price is already cheaper (the prices for our store don't follow the currency fluctuation). At the end of the day, guess which store is better for us? The one that offers a "global fair price" or the one that offers regional pricing? Stop assuming that "regional pricing is evil". This is not always the case.
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Novotnus: For me it works the other way - minimal salary in Poland equals around $400 \ 300€ netto \ month (I shit you not, just looked it up) and still, in most cases we get standard EU prices (in Euro, of course - it's not our local currency, but, you know, it's EU) I can't imagine someone earning 300€ can afford any games offered there and $1 = 1€ policy doesn't make it better.
I'm not saying regional pricing is always a bad thing. I'm just saying GOG pricing works better for me :) And again, I'm not blaming Steam. Steam just offers a tool. Publishers use the tool as they want. And the way they use the tool determines if I'm buying their games not :)
Agreed, for me steam offer minor service that I do not care and does not excel in service that I care.

Not everyone like auto update, for me, Dungeon Siege 2 in steam is version 2.3 which may not work well with mod I like that use version 2.2

Steam will not fix bugs in the game for you, and if the developers of the game are nonchalant you are screwed, but GOG will ensure the game will be playable, compatible as long as your PC meet the specs.
I had a problem with steam downloading for all games but I can access the steam store, download GOG and Game Stop games. I approach steam for support and just stereotype answer and ask me to read the steam technical FAQ despite the multiple times I ask and state that I done everything I could with the FAQ before approaching them.

Last I check steam force you to be online at least once a week or will lock you of your offline game, so if you travel and do not have internet access you are lock out. There is a backdoor around it but their attitude bothers me.

Steam also allow third party service which you are not made aware off. Like unreal tournament 3 black edition require you to create an account with third party to save your game. Then that third party company close down you forgot your password and cannot reset them, your save are gone. Same with magic the gathering tactics, when that third party goes down, your money invested will go too. The horror stories of constant online game does not need repeating.

I tired to get my games on other digital distribution platform first before steam as I do not want them to have a monopoly and force gamers to play by their rules.
Posted December 31, 2013
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haydenaurion: Fallout was what brought me to gog years ago.

I remember Fallout 3 was just coming out and I was interested in playing the originals as i'd heard of them but had never played them before. Searching some forums, I found out that getting original copies and getting them running was a bit tricky, but then a post mentioned a site called gog.com which not only had the Fallout games, but had them drm free as well as other games. The rest is history.

Shame to see them removed, but thanks gog and interplay for what became my very first purchases here. One of these days I need to play and beat them, but I keep getting wrapped up in something else. Too much backlog, lol.
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mkess: More sad is, i think, that we will never see the old Betheda titles DRM free.
Not true actually. Bethesda has released the first two Elder Scrolls games (Arena and Daggerfall) as freeware which you can get without any digital copy protection.
Post edited December 31, 2013 by Eniena
Posted December 31, 2013
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Gnostic: As I own the game, I know I can still install the game from my account, but will these games be removed from my account in the future? Which means that I have to make backup of the install files.
No, GOG shouldn't remove the games from the accounts of people who own them. There have been games removed from GOG in the past and all of them are still available to download for those that own them. Not even Steam removes games from your account (i have NWN 2 on Steam which is not available for purchase anymore and i can still download it).
Posted December 31, 2013
GOG, can you please remove the expired gift codes from our gift lists? If they don't work any more, it's just pointless and annoying having them there, looking like we can give them to people when we actually can't?

(It'll be even worse for anyone who has a mix of both valid and invalid gift codes for these games! They then have to try to figure out which ones they can give people and which ones they can't.)

I really wish you had warned us that this was going to happen, btw. The giveaway was a really awesome move, but those of us with extra codes would have made sure that people got to use them, had we only known!
Posted December 31, 2013
A sad day... here's to hoping they'll return to GOG in the future... or perhaps some form of remake??

On the plus side... Wasteland is here. :)
Post edited December 31, 2013 by teknomedic
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