Lodium: I woudnt hand a gun to a mental unstable person to make an example
and i also woudnt allow firearms where you coud kill alot of people at once
There is likewise regulations you can make when it comes to art.

kohlrak: The difference between reality and interpretation are great. If i play a cat game, and take a screenshot, one does not say that it's a picture of a kitty, but a picture of a cartoon kitty. However, for all intents and purposes, when me or anyone else plays the kitty game, we are petting a kitty. The same separation can be said about porn in general: i'm not looking at a woman, but i still have the same brain chemical response as if i was indeed looking at a woman. The porn acts as an abstraction of a woman, while the loli acts as an abstraction of child porn, in the same way the virtual pet acts as an abstraction of a real pet. They invoke the same mentality, even though they are not necessarily that which they represent (which is why you give a gigapet to an irresponsible child who wants a pet: no real cat or dog is being neglected and the child will be happy with their pet until they get tired of being restricted to a facsimile).

kohlrak: The argument is that people gain certain preferences due to a normalization process, and they'll want to act out these preferences. Most seem to be able to avoid this temptation (as far as we know), because they prefer to be free more than they prefer to get their rocks off (we assume). However, "tension builds" and the opportunity to act upon your desires will inevitably present itself (you may be left alone with a child to babysit, or something like that) and some people prefer getting their rocks off than reducing the risk of loosing their freedom and/or maintaining their moral standing. The argument against loli is that it potentially increases the number of people who end up in the situation of having to make the decision, whereas someone who hasn't normalized the sexualization of children won't view it as an opportunity and presents no risk (at least in that way, as other forms of abuse can come from other sources).

kohlrak: Actually, Shantae technically is loli. However, it is excused because it's ephebophilia. Ephebophilic content (mostly from Japanese games like Dead or Alive) has managed to escape laws, for the most part, simply by adding 2 years to any given age during the localization process (since Japanese materials are usually originally oriented to japanese legal standards). Moreover, ephebophilic porn for real is legal depending on the age of the person (since age of consent occurs before the end of the definition of ephebophilia in almost all countries). Most people would say a naked 19-year-old is legal in their country, but it does still count as ephebophilia. Although it's not always true, legal and illegal ephebophilic porn is indistinguishable without ages and/or dates being written, as ephebophilia is more or less defined out of necessary technicality, which means ephebophilic porn only encourages affinity for youth, but not necessarily to the degree of being under the legal age of consent. Given that standard, it's questionable whether or not ephebophilic pornography can honestly be classified as loli.