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The legend is reborn.

<span class="bold">Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition</span>, the return of the most celebrated RPG of all time, is now available, DRM-free on GOG.com.

A layered story laced with philosophical undercurrents. A fantasy setting unlike any other. One of the most memorable casts of eccentric, interconnected characters. This is Planescape: Torment, the gold standard for narrative-driven RPGs of the past 18 years. And now it's back!
Beamdog and lead designer Chris Avellone joined forces to update the game with fixes, enhancements, and key additions, all in sync with the original vision of this timeless masterpiece. With a remastered soundtrack, a crisp 4K interface, and neat convenience features, the Enhanced Edition is coming to captivate a new audience and remind its dedicated fans why they just can't seem able to take it off their all-time favorites list.

Additionally, *hear* the <span class="bold">Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition Official Soundtrack</span> – a remastered masterpiece by Mark Morgan, one of gaming's most legendary composers.

Note: Planescape: Torment: Enhanced Edition features the unaltered original version and the Enhanced Edition in one definitive collection exclusively on GOG.com.

Watch the trailer.
Post edited April 12, 2017 by maladr0Id
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Riotact: The last game i got here was Wasteland 2, i left because of this rep downvote bullshit., I was going to buy PST EE here because i have the original, but as the downvoting is still so prevalent here, i'll fuck off back to Steam, where you meet a better class of asshole.
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jalister: I'm not going to let the state of the user forums affect my decision of where to buy my games. I have preferred the GOG forums over the Steam forums, but I buy my games here because they have what I want, DRM free.
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ValamirCleaver: Assuming it is true of course, I wonder what this aforementioned crowd will make of this below?
Info on possibly getting the classics unbundled : Post 29
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jalister: I'm skeptical about that anwser. The classics don't even appear to be available on Steam, and I also didn't see the classics included with the originals.
Were the classics ever available on Steam? I don't think Torment was, not sure about the BG series.
if I already have the original Planescape Torment, will I get another key of the original game?
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LiefLayer: if I already have the original Planescape Torment, will I get another key of the original game?
No.
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dudalb: if GOG did begin policing the forums more they would be accused of "censorship" and "taking away people's freedom of speech".
I think these forums should be policed more, but if GOG did they would get some serioius pushback.
It's a no win sittation for GOG, really.
Large forums are moderated or they go to hell fast.

I do not care if some troll complains, cries, holds his breath or commits seppuku.

It is very simple, really. Assholes abound. Influenciable copycats are majority. Moderate the forum or let it become garbage.

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Riotact: [...]
I don't care about the rep, scrap it, it's the intimidation of cowardly hidden people constantly sniping genuine posts that is galling.
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dudalb: Someone is in a really bad mood today.
Serioulsly if you don't like the downvoting BS just ignore it.Easy to do.
The man is pointing out how toxic and unwelcoming the atmosphere in this forum is becoming, and how many threads become full of garbage. It was the opposite just few years ago. GOG is losing active community members, the kind that contributes and makes threads worth reading. This is legitimate. Many others have pointed out the same. Maybe Riotact's choice of words is not of your liking, maybe you would like it to be more polite, cheerful or whatever.

Yes, you can ignore the rep system. Can you really? Happy posts, even the more useful ones, are met with massive downvoting, by morons and multiaccounts, which is a more focused kind of moron. AS AN EXPRESSION OF REJECTION. You may cope with that. You may ignore the garbage and the trolling. Maybe. There is more than that, there is even political propaganda and hate speech. Does it feel like a friendly place? A place where you could exchange fun comments and learn something by the way? The answer for more and more members is: "NO, damn, there are other forums, why waste time in a digital shithole?"

Some legit users have said how they are ignoring the rep system, the garbage, the trolling and whatnot. Maybe. Others do not feel that they ought to cope with shit anymore.
Post edited April 13, 2017 by Carradice
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Riotact: The last game i got here was Wasteland 2, i left because of this rep downvote bullshit., I was going to buy PST EE here because i have the original, but as the downvoting is still so prevalent here, i'll fuck off back to Steam, where you meet a better class of asshole.

GOG, this bullshit is costing you business, the amount of people that have left because of this crap, which you won't do anything about, speaks for itself. Lots of decent customers and forum members gone, all you will eventually have left are these wankers.

I don't care about the rep, scrap it, it's the intimidation of cowardly hidden people constantly sniping genuine posts that is galling.
So you "don't care about the rep" yet you'll "fuck off back to Steam" and its DRM because the rep system upsets you.
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ValamirCleaver: Assuming it is true of course, I wonder what this aforementioned crowd will make of this below?
Info on possibly getting the classics unbundled : Post 29
If that is true, then I am saddened.

Thank you for highlighting this post, VladmirClever.
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Riotact: The last game i got here was Wasteland 2, i left because of this rep downvote bullshit., I was going to buy PST EE here because i have the original, but as the downvoting is still so prevalent here, i'll fuck off back to Steam, where you meet a better class of asshole.

GOG, this bullshit is costing you business, the amount of people that have left because of this crap, which you won't do anything about, speaks for itself. Lots of decent customers and forum members gone, all you will eventually have left are these wankers.

I don't care about the rep, scrap it, it's the intimidation of cowardly hidden people constantly sniping genuine posts that is galling.
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DeadlyRamon: So you "don't care about the rep" yet you'll "fuck off back to Steam" and its DRM because the rep system upsets you.
It is not about the rep of the user, he specifically mentioned the downvoting of P O S T S. It is quite easy to read, see.
Post edited April 13, 2017 by Carradice
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dudalb: if GOG did begin policing the forums more they would be accused of "censorship" and "taking away people's freedom of speech".
I think these forums should be policed more, but if GOG did they would get some serioius pushback.
It's a no win sittation for GOG, really.
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Carradice: Large forums are moderated or they go to hell fast.

I do not care if some troll complains, cries, holds his breath or commits seppuku.

It is very simple, really. Assholes abound. Influenciable copycats are majority. Moderate the forum or let it become garbage.

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dudalb: Someone is in a really bad mood today.
Serioulsly if you don't like the downvoting BS just ignore it.Easy to do.
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Carradice: The man is pointing out how toxic and unwelcoming the atmosphere in this forum is becoming, and how many threads become full of garbage. It was the opposite just few years ago. GOG is losing active community members, the kind that contributes and makes threads worth reading. This is legitimate. Many others have pointed out the same. Maybe Riotact's choice of words is not of your liking, maybe you would like it to be more polite, cheerful or whatever.

Yes, you can ignore the rep system. Can you really? Happy posts, even the more useful ones, are met with massive downvoting, by morons and multiaccounts, which is a more focused kind of moron. AS AN EXPRESSION OF REJECTION. You may cope with that. You may ignore the garbage and the trolling. Maybe. There is more than that, there is even political propaganda and hate speech. Does it feel like a friendly place? A place where you could exchange fun comments and learn something by the way? The answer for more and more members is: "NO, damn, there are other forums, why waste time in a digital shithole?"

Some legit users have said how they are ignoring the rep system, the garbage, the trolling and whatnot. Maybe. Others do not feel that they ought to cope with shit anymore.
Thanks for taking the trouble to explain all that Carradice, you hit all the major bullet points.

I don't care about rep, it's the continuous sniping by hidden cowards.

This used to be a great place to hang out, great people, interesting and fun discussions, help topics etc. Now its a cesspool of assholes, most of the names I don't recognise, but the glaring difference is the names that are absent. Older members will remember and recall them fondly.

If people want to buy a game, it's nobody elses business to ram their opposite opinion down their throats, just because they hate Beamdog.

Somebody else earlier asked about PST or the other classics on Steam,, it's an irrelevant question for me as I have the big box originals plus GOG versions. I'll get PST EE on Beamdog.

Thanks again Carradice :)
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ShadowOwl: The only way to obtain the original version is to buy or gift the EE. Not the best solution but it's still possible. And like with the Baldur's Gate EEs there will most likely be plenty of sales in the future.
forcing players/customers to pay twice the money for something that (for someone who is willing to mod the original game, or even prefers it) gives no aditional value is really dick move.

Some people simply aren't interested in the (really cynically named) Enhanced Edition. If a company wants to remake old game, fine, why not. As for the pricing ... I don't really care, they can charge for the remake any price they decide to, their choice. But taking away the option to buy the original sepparately and strongarming anyone interested in the original game into buying the remake they aren't interested in, that is as anti-consumer as it gets and I have absolutely no respect for that and nothing but utter disdain for any company who does this. It also feels like the company has no confidence in their own product ... "omigod omigod no one will buy our remake unless we make it impossible to buy the original"
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gozer: forcing players/customers to pay twice the money for something that (for someone who is willing to mod the original game, or even prefers it) gives no aditional value is really dick move.
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I would also prefer to have both versions available for sale but well, what can one do? Just don't buy it, contact GOG/Beamdog about unbundling the games (as one of the posters here did) or wait for one of the many sales that will certainly come up in the months and years to come.

Anyway, Beamdog's Enhanced Editions have come a long way since the buggy original release of Baldur's Gate EE and the new convenience and usability in Planescape is splendid - I enjoy it a lot!
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Carradice: Yes, you can ignore the rep system.
Not entirely true, unfortunately. If the initial post in a topic has been "low rated", the topic will always appear gray on the topic list, even if there are new replies. As a result, it becomes more difficult to follow such a topic if it is something you actually are interested in.
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I would prefer the rating system to be removed. That would make it easy for people to read "controversial" posts, which were written with an opinion contrary to trolls. The trolls use the hiding mechanic to hi-light their favored position.

Posts that have simple content like "I enjoy the Enhanced Edition" are being dragged from view, while any post that claims Beamdog is a greedy @&!()@)&! of a company are automatically given a thumbs up - no matter how wrong or insulting the content is.

Posts should stand on their actual merit, so that readers can read the debate and come to their own conclusions.
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goral: No.
LOL this is really a stupid move..
thank you for the answer
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Mizark80: They must have cut some kind of deal so that the enhanced editions are not directly competing with the old versions. That's understandable from the perspective of a small publisher. It's not like they are making the old editions unavailable *or* expensive. The enhanced editions have frequently been on sale for 75% off (4.99 USD). Is that really so expensive? That's cheaper than the originals were at full price. So what if the enhanced editions are $20 when they first come out--they'll be on sale within a year, and anyone who misses the old versions but doesn't want to pay a lot for the new one can wait until then. It's entirely logical for them not to want to have both editions being sold at the same time, with one half the price of the other and undercutting their investment in an enhanced edition.
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cstuckma: The deal may also be what is keeping Planetscape: Torment available at all. I don't know that we know all the details.

Everyone will have a different idea of what a price point means to them, and what seems reasonable. For me, it has to be one hell of a sale to get to my price range for a "remastered" game of this age that starts at $20.

Ideally, as a customer, I'd like to see both versions available separately (I dig customizable a-la-carte), but there are some compromises that we'll have to see in order for GOG to exist and grow.

If no compromises are made, we may not have any titles to choose from. I hope that GOG is doing what it can to make the best possible deal for us with publishers. In general, they seem to be holding up pretty well (<-totally my opinion: everyone will feel differently; and will have a different location and thickness of the line between ideal and sellout).

As far as the community goes, we are seeing some growing pains here. If it was just old-days GOGers, the community would be a bit more civil, but it would mean a smaller customer base and less negotiating power for GOG.

Ultimately, GOG seems to be trying to balance a complicated set comprised of growth, community, and deals with publishers/developers. I feel that what we have gotten may not be ideal, but it is reasonable to keep a classic game available. I think? $20, though? Ok, slightly less than reasonable at $20.

Keep on rockin' everybody! Have a great weekend!
Good take on it. Let's enjoy the game!
Somebody lock the thread already! lol