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Posted January 12, 2024
Old World is a revolutionary historical strategy game where you lead your dynasty over generations of rule against rival kings and queens. Wage massive wars, manage your court, and build a dynasty — or watch your empire crumble to dust.

Its latest DLC Wonders and Dynasties is now available on GOG with a -10% discount that lasts until January 18th!

It introduces 30 brand new ways of starting your game with the addition of new Dynastic leaders – each empire has received new leaders and starting conditions. Play as the dictator Sulla to leverage your unique dictator trait, as Khufu to construct endless wonders with the help of his wonder cost reduction, or as Nebuchadnezzar to quickly control large amounts of territory and forge a massive empire in the early game.

Moreover, eight new wonders of the ancient world add new and unique modifiers to your empire. Generate free specialists with the Jerwan Aqueduct, become the trade capital of the world with the Al Khazneh, or spawn an endless army of swordsmen with the Colosseum.

Expect 100+ new dynasty related events, 21 new Character Traits, 120 new historical characters, and more!

Old World - Wonders and Dynasties, now on GOG!
Posted January 12, 2024
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Shmacky-McNuts: These modern hex games still look cookie cut. That was my point. As a genre, there is little distinction in goals. So besides looking a little different, these games often seem stale to me. If I ask the goal of all these games, it usually is boiled down to conquer everything. Asking why, usually not a consideration.

If this is not that type of game and there is more depth, good. Would be a great to have deep concepts.

As an example: Have entire circles of friends and family, with characters that age. Watch as an empire moves with the characters that created it.
You know. . . that was one of the reasons what really got me interested in 'true' wargaming. Why not pay some visit to a branch that is aimed a waging war without all the pretence that so-called civility will call forth. Alas, civ is a tad friendlier to your unwinding needs than your average wargame will ever pretend to be. ;p so there is pro's!

I do disagree with your sentiment about the mainstay of grand strategy. Though goals remain the same, it is in the details where one could find how cut out you truly are. And no nonsense, at least my case, some angles do fit better than other angles yea? and Sid (tr) is just the bomb
Posted January 12, 2024
Would be fascinating to have Rimworld(minus rampant psychosis) and build up to have a larger colony. It turns into a mix of Suikoden and games like Old World genre. But the goals would not explicitly be a x4. Just build and live as long as the characters live, until ailments and old age take them.

.....naturally a wild west or post apocalypse setting could also make for some good carnage ;)
Post edited January 12, 2024 by Shmacky-McNuts
Posted January 12, 2024
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Shmacky-McNuts: These modern hex games still look cookie cut. That was my point. As a genre, there is little distinction in goals. So besides looking a little different, these games often seem stale to me. If I ask the goal of all these games, it usually is boiled down to conquer everything. Asking why, usually not a consideration.

If this is not that type of game and there is more depth, good. Would be a great to have deep concepts.
And my flashback continues. Master of Magic is exactly Civilization again. Arguments don't matter since the person at the opposite end is convinced that they just know it all at a glance.

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Shmacky-McNuts: As an example: Have entire circles of friends and family, with characters that age. Watch as an empire moves with the characters that created it.
That's pretty much one of Old World's unique selling points. Actually, it was that unique that they were about to cut/very optionalize it at some point during development. That caused some grumblings from their test player base.
Anyway, none of the Age of Wonders have something like this. I'm a bit out of touch with Steam-only Civilizations but I don't think they have it either. Grand strategy games like Sengoku had a bit of that but Old World's system is certainly on a very different level and grand strategy does not cover all my cravings, so there is plenty of room for AoW and Old World to deal with my TBS needs from different angles.
Post edited January 12, 2024 by BitMaster_1980
Posted January 12, 2024
Looks interesting, wishlisted.

Q: I see there is a Old World: Complete edition. Does it include Old World - Wonders and Dynasties?

It doesn't appear to be from the store page or am I overlooking something? Otherwise, I'm not sure why it's called "Complete".
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Posted January 12, 2024
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gog2002x: It doesn't appear to be from the store page or am I overlooking something? Otherwise, I'm not sure why it's called "Complete".
It was complete at the time it came out.
Posted January 12, 2024
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gog2002x: It doesn't appear to be from the store page or am I overlooking something? Otherwise, I'm not sure why it's called "Complete".
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eric5h5: It was complete at the time it came out.
Makes sense, I guess maybe they hadn't planned on any more DLCs at that time, maybe.
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Posted January 12, 2024
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eric5h5: It was complete at the time it came out.
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gog2002x: Makes sense, I guess maybe they hadn't planned on any more DLCs at that time, maybe.
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I haven't seen an official statement but it seems more like a "catch up to what happened so far at a reasonable price"-deal, containing everything up to the last expansion at a discount. The DLCs bring the more elaborate and content-rich changes while you still get adjustments, minor reworks and QoL every month or so.
I do hope they are going for the decade-long work and refinement Paradox is usually known for. It's doing complex titles like TBS and grand strategy a lot of good which would usually not be possible in such a niche genre. They just need to find a better way to allow new players to catch up (without giving their longtime supporters the feeling they are getting completely stiffed). My guess would be the Complete Edition is their shot at that, although the name is probably not wisely chosen.
Posted January 13, 2024
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Shmacky-McNuts: Would be fascinating to have Rimworld(minus rampant psychosis) and build up to have a larger colony. It turns into a mix of Suikoden and games like Old World genre. But the goals would not explicitly be a x4. Just build and live as long as the characters live, until ailments and old age take them.

.....naturally a wild west or post apocalypse setting could also make for some good carnage ;)
at least hooded horse is on the forefront of promising strategy releases! Manor Lords .. yum yum ... and then we can see it fail .... ghoghoghoghoghegheghe .. that would be so much fun :o

sorry hoodie :p
Posted January 13, 2024
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Shmacky-McNuts: Would be fascinating to have Rimworld(minus rampant psychosis) and build up to have a larger colony. It turns into a mix of Suikoden and games like Old World genre. But the goals would not explicitly be a x4. Just build and live as long as the characters live, until ailments and old age take them.

.....naturally a wild west or post apocalypse setting could also make for some good carnage ;)
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Zimerius: at least hooded horse is on the forefront of promising strategy releases! Manor Lords .. yum yum ... and then we can see it fail .... ghoghoghoghoghegheghe .. that would be so much fun :o

sorry hoodie :p
Kind of funny. I did not notice the company had other style games until you mentioned them. Just wishlisted Falling Frontier. Thanks.
Posted January 13, 2024
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Zimerius: at least hooded horse is on the forefront of promising strategy releases! Manor Lords .. yum yum ... and then we can see it fail .... ghoghoghoghoghegheghe .. that would be so much fun :o

sorry hoodie :p
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Shmacky-McNuts: Kind of funny. I did not notice the company had other style games until you mentioned them. Just wishlisted Falling Frontier. Thanks.
Good to know eh :)

i've been following them for quite some time now, and i must say, the way the expanded their portfolio is neigh to ridiculous! Games that i've been following 'suddenly' appeared under their banner.
And another pure strategy house that seems to support GoG wholeheartedly. . . At least that will mean i can purchase their games on this front. Though, if they will ever setup their own portal i am affraid that will be preferred.

Kinda funny too, all those other blokes here screaming about their latest needs and wants and us stratheads can sit back in their couches wondering what all those 'kids' are actually yelling 'bout :p
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