Posted October 28, 2016
zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
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babark: I don't think he was influential enough to really dislike so much. The only people who took him seriously were conspiracy nutters anyhow.
And their children suffered as a result. --
I'm sad that he died before Nov 9. Phillies Schlafly, Chick... if Pat Robertson doesn't make it, it'll be a minor (inter)national tragedy.
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Posted October 28, 2016
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Darvond: I didn't cry when Antonin Scalia died, I won't cry when Trump dies, I won't cry when Rush Limbaugh dies. They first need to earn the basic respect of showing human decency.
tremere110: Not crying and feeling joy when somebody dies are different things. Schadenfreude is a sign you could be a sociopath after all. As Max Plank said,
"Truth never triumphs — its opponents just die out."
and
"Science advances one funeral at a time."
People like Jack Chick have had plenty of times to let go of their hatred. To lose them is not of consequence, but rather a shining moment. Because it means one less person is out there who believes playing D&D is a great way to get in contact with the occult, rather than just attending the weekly meetings and asking nicely.
Am I happy that he's dead? Perhaps a bit. Would it have been wrong to be reading the obituaries in 1945 only to read that Adolf was gone? At the very least, I think I could take some satisfaction in reading that obituary.
Well, neither is implying that turning down witness to a man is a ticket straight to Hades.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by Darvond
zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
Darvond: Would it have been wrong to be reading the obituaries in 1945 only to read that Adolf was gone? At the very least, I think I could take some satisfaction in reading that obituary.
Adolf Hitler tortured and killed millions of people. Jack Chick drew cartoons.
If you equate somebody sharing a controversial viewpoint with a mass murderer, I'm not sure what to tell you, because you're just as filled with hate as you accuse him of being.
He believed D&D players were setting themselves up for occultism and sought to share his beliefs because he legitimately felt that he was trying to help save people by doing so. You believe he was the scum of the earth for holding this viewpoint/writing a cartoon about it and believe that by rejoicing, you can triumph as The One With The Best Opinion and have others agree with your wonderful mindset.
In that sense, he was a better individual than you're acting like right now.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
Darvond: So you remember those unfunny, weird, racist, and factually ignorant little comic books with the distinct covers?
I can't say I do, even though I was born before 2000. Must be some US-only thing then. What was that linked cover about anyway? Three red devils laughing together, and a text "Somebody goofed. J.T.C.".
Oh the horror, what an awful cover! I feel sooooo disgusted now! (not really)
Post edited October 28, 2016 by timppu
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Posted October 28, 2016
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Darvond: Would it have been wrong to be reading the obituaries in 1945 only to read that Adolf was gone? At the very least, I think I could take some satisfaction in reading that obituary.
zeogold: Adolf Hitler tortured and killed millions of people. Jack Chick drew cartoons.
If you equate somebody sharing a controversial viewpoint with a mass murderer, I'm not sure what to tell you, because you're just as filled with hate as you accuse him of being.
Darvond: So you remember those unfunny, weird, racist, and factually ignorant little comic books with the distinct covers?
timppu: I can't say I do, even though I was born before 2000. Must be some US-only thing then. Post edited October 28, 2016 by Darvond
tremere110
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Posted October 28, 2016
zeogold: Adolf Hitler tortured and killed millions of people.
Jack Chick drew cartoons.
If you equate somebody sharing a controversial viewpoint with a mass murderer, I'm not sure what to tell you, because you're just as filled with hate as you accuse him of being.
Darvond: Jack Chick wishes a fate worse than death upon millions of people, imagining them in an eternal fire that never ceases. Jack Chick drew cartoons.
If you equate somebody sharing a controversial viewpoint with a mass murderer, I'm not sure what to tell you, because you're just as filled with hate as you accuse him of being.
You know, when you say stuff like that you do realize it makes you sound as much a nutjob as those you decry.
zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
Darvond: Jack Chick wishes a fate worse than death upon millions of people, imagining them in an eternal fire that never ceases.
And you wish that same fate on him, Trump, and others. He can imagine all he wants, as can you. Neither of you, however, have actually DONE anything. That's the difference.
I could make the argument that he doesn't actually wish that fate upon these people, but I'm going to avoid turning this into the inevitable path of a Christian/religion-bashing thread, which I can already see this heading in.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
May he rest in piss. Fuck him.
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Posted October 28, 2016
Kardwill: The man gleefully described how anyone different from himself was bound to the lower pits of hell, and took an obvious great pleasure in doing so.
zeogold: ...and sharing this same attitude (which OP apparently does) is somehow better because...your opinion is more "right", I guess? And, well, Chick is (err... was) a private bogeyman for the TTRPG community. Part of the big anti-D&D craze a few years ago, which let to much bad blood. For some players, book burning/pastor or family interventions/gaming circle forcibly closed were real life stuff and not simply silly comic books from a madman.
So for many, it's a personal feud and not simply a disagreement.
But I agree on one point : Dancing on his grave feels inappropriate. And more importantly, it gives the nutter too much importance. He was a pathetic fool, and that kind of guy should not be hated, but mercilessly mocked and ridiculed. Like what was attempted by the guys who made the movie adaptation of "Dark Dungeon" and offered a RPG as a stretch goal of the kickstarter.
So I think I will purchase my first movie on GOG (https://www.gog.com/movie/dark_dungeons). You know, to properly celebr.. err.. commemorate the event.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by Kardwill
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Darvond: Jack Chick wishes a fate worse than death upon millions of people, imagining them in an eternal fire that never ceases.
tremere110: So imagining a whole bunch of people in worse fates than death is worse than actually going out and killing them? You know, when you say stuff like that you do realize it makes you sound as much a nutjob as those you decry.
zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
Kardwill: And, well, Chick is (err... was) a private bogeyman for the TTRPG community. Part of the big anti-D&D craze a few years ago, which let to much bad blood. For some players, book burning/pastor or family interventions/gaming circle forcibly closed were real life stuff and not simply silly comic books from a madman.
So for many, it's a personal feud and not simply a disagreement.
This may have been an opinion of his, but how does that make him responsible? As you said, there were family interventions, book burnings, etc., so....isn't that the fault of the people doing it? From what I can tell, Chick did nothing but parrot opinions which were already there, unless you're saying people followed his every comic and revered him like the head of a cult or something. So for many, it's a personal feud and not simply a disagreement.
You sure seem to.
And again, I point out that, from what I can tell, Chick didn't seem to actually want people to experience these fates. Seems more like a warning than a willful "I WANT YOU TO BURN IN HELL" sort of thing, which is fairly consistent with most Christians, save for some of the more radical groups.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
I don't think the OP is wishind eternal damnation on him, he's just happy that the guy won't be spreading his hate propaganda any more. I agree with you that rejoicing at someone's death is not very nice, it's generally frowned upon in our calture and all, but at least try to understand where the OP is coming from - that man didn't just hold some "differing opinions", he was actively spreading hatred and "informing" about non-existant conspiracies, trying to make certain groups like the jews or gays or (gasp) nerds into enemies. That is not "doing nothing". That is very dangerous.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by Breja
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Posted October 28, 2016
Kardwill: And, well, Chick is (err... was) a private bogeyman for the TTRPG community. Part of the big anti-D&D craze a few years ago, which let to much bad blood. For some players, book burning/pastor or family interventions/gaming circle forcibly closed were real life stuff and not simply silly comic books from a madman.
So for many, it's a personal feud and not simply a disagreement.
zeogold: This may have been an opinion of his, but how does that make him responsible? As you said, there were family interventions, book burnings, etc., so....isn't that the fault of the people doing it? From what I can tell, Chick did nothing but parrot opinions which were already there, unless you're saying people followed his every comic and revered him like the head of a cult or something. So for many, it's a personal feud and not simply a disagreement.
zeogold: You sure seem to.
And again, I point out that, from what I can tell, Chick didn't seem to actually want people to experience these fates. Seems more like a warning than a willful "I WANT YOU TO BURN IN HELL" sort of thing, which is fairly consistent with most Christians, save for some of the more radical groups.
Now which group do you think he fell into?
zeogold
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Posted October 28, 2016
Breja: that man didn't just hold some "differing opinions", he was actively spreading hatred and "informing" about non-existant conspiracies, trying to make certain groups like the jews into enemies. That is not "doing nothing", That is very dangerous, and while it not equivalent to Hitler's crimes, let's remember those crimes would never heave happened have the groundwork for the hatred that fueled them was not laid by people like Chick.
There's gotta be a hundred or so other cartoonists out there doing the same thing, though. How is it that Chick deserves some kind of special hatred to the point that OP's made a grave-dancing thread about it? Could you point me to a specific comic? There's no way in heck I'm reading all of those.
Post edited October 28, 2016 by zeogold