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Posted May 29, 2019
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Breja: My mom could kick all of our asses in Heroes of Might & Magic III any day of the week. She only plays it on the most hardcore 200% difficulty setting and scoffs anyone who plays it easier than that :D
I play it only on second most difficult... it's still too easy for me. So, bring it on, grandma.
Posted May 29, 2019
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Matewis: And HOGs? Oh wait, hidden object games? Any in particular you can suggest. I want to expand my mom's gaming horizons a bit and never thought of something like that.
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BreOl72: Well, as a starter: https://www.gog.com/news/release_hidden_object_games_find_their_way_to_gogcom
Cool thanks I'll check it out.
Posted May 29, 2019
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kbnrylaec: A non-gamer claimed that "most games are trash" on the forum, but expressed exactly nothing about why he/she think that.

Facts:
1. Gaming addiction classified as disorder by WHO
2. Global games market value rising to $134.9 billion in 2018. You know, the first video game appeared around 1958. It is zero to $134.9 billion in merely 60 years.
3. mobygames.com already registered 200,000 games. It is 3333 games per year, or 9 games per day since 1958.
4. As of July 2018, a third of people on this planet are gamers.

Any one who have a clear mind know video games are fun.

UPDATE
Fix typo
OP in that thread meant most games are artistically trash. He never said anything about them being not fun.
Posted May 29, 2019
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Breja: My mom could kick all of our asses in Heroes of Might & Magic III any day of the week. She only plays it on the most hardcore 200% difficulty setting and scoffs anyone who plays it easier than that :D
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Matewis: Lol on way XD Does she have a favorite race? Rampart perhaps?
Got it in one! She likes all the factions that can build the full mage guild, but she loves the treasury.
Posted May 29, 2019
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moobot83: just cos something is a billion dollar industry doesnt mean its good, ie alcohol and tobacco industry
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DadJoke007: Who are you to say that tobacco and alcohol aren't good? On what arbitrary scale does one measure "good"?
well enjoy getting liver disease and lung cancer then, u dnt get either of those from gaming alone
Posted May 29, 2019
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DadJoke007: Who are you to say that tobacco and alcohol aren't good? On what arbitrary scale does one measure "good"?
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moobot83: well enjoy getting liver disease and lung cancer then, u dnt get either of those from gaming alone
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Posted May 29, 2019
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DadJoke007: Who are you to say that tobacco and alcohol aren't good? On what arbitrary scale does one measure "good"?
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moobot83: well enjoy getting liver disease and lung cancer then, u dnt get either of those from gaming alone
If you game in excess, you'll be prone to all kinds of diseases from sitting on your ass too much. Just like if you drink or smoke in excess, you'll also be more prone to sickness. And besides, who are you to decide if the tradeoff for X is good but the tradeoff for Y is bad?

Like with everything, it depends.
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Posted May 29, 2019
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Matewis: Lol on way XD Does she have a favorite race? Rampart perhaps?
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Breja: Got it in one! She likes all the factions that can build the full mage guild, but she loves the treasury.
It just comes across as a very 'mom-like' race :) Though they are quite kickass. The best tier 1 unit in the game by far, and they have glorious archers
Posted May 29, 2019
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moobot83: just cos something is a billion dollar industry doesnt mean its good, ie alcohol and tobacco industry
What's wrong with Alcohol and Tobacco? Billions of dollars mean someone is buying it.
Posted May 29, 2019
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idbeholdME: I always find it hilarious how people get worked up over mere opinions, personal tastes and even random blurts/rant threads like the one referred to here.

A random person is not happy with the recent games. Oh the humanity!! That definitely warrants making a counter-thread....

Why should I or anyone give a single damn about what games others like or not?
Because everyone has to give a damn about something or life is less worth living? :\

(The extra thread wasn't needed, though, and on that we agree)
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Crosmando: The UN is a bunch of self-important overpaid bureaucrats trying to justify their pay checks, the fact that the agency in charge of the world's health can waste their time coming up with bullshit "disorders" like this while hunger and disease kills thousands in the third-world is beyond words.
As I told Tauto in another thread: This is a godsend to those who suffer severe addiction to games(those who cannot drop them because they cannot face rl/etc) or spend too much money/time on them to the detriment of everything else. Also, some things cannot get medical/etc help and get subsidized/covered by insurance without such classification.

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DadJoke007: Who are you to say that tobacco and alcohol aren't good? On what arbitrary scale does one measure "good"?
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moobot83: well enjoy getting liver disease and lung cancer then, u dnt get either of those from gaming alone
You can get lung cancer simply from working in certain industries or walking around vehicle exhaust too much/etc. Also alcohol is good in moderation(it improves some people's mood and also blood pressure iirc).
Post edited May 29, 2019 by GameRager
Posted May 29, 2019
I think I get what you're saying; but you're also missing the point entirely.

Yes, games are addictive. After all, what would Super Mario Bros be without it's hook?

But the problem stems a little deeper, in that certain addictive & compulsive behaviors are being abused, such as is all too often the case in Gatchapon games.

Think of it:
‣Daily login bonuses to encourage someone to keep coming back.
‣ Limited time events to guilttrip you into playing more.
‣ Paid events that you can only enter by shelling out.
‣ Weighted odds against unpaid players to "encourage" them to pay.
‣ Inavailibilty of better items or characters without payment.

And so on. THOSE are the actual problem. Mario doesn't beg you for 5 coins if you fail a stage.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by Darvond
Posted May 29, 2019
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idbeholdME: I always find it hilarious how people get worked up over mere opinions, personal tastes and even random blurts/rant threads like the one referred to here.

A random person is not happy with the recent games. Oh the humanity!! That definitely warrants making a counter-thread....

Why should I or anyone give a single damn about what games others like or not?
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GameRager: Because everyone has to give a damn about something or life is less worth living? :\
Of course. But tastes of other people shouldn't be high on your priority list.
Posted May 29, 2019
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Darvond: I think I get what you're saying; but you're also missing the point entirely.

Yes, games are addictive. After all, what would Super Mario Bros be without it's hook?

But the problem stems a little deeper, in that certain addictive & compulsive behaviors are being abused, such as is all too often the case in Gatchapon games.

Think of it:
‣Daily login bonuses to encourage someone to keep coming back.
‣ Limited time events to guilttrip you into playing more.
‣ Paid events that you can only enter by shelling out.
‣ Weighted odds against unpaid players to "encourage" them to pay.
‣ Inavailibilty of better items or characters without payment.

And so on. THOSE are the actual problem. Mario doesn't beg you for 5 coins if you fail a stage.
This...these are also some of the majority of those that the WHO/etc had in mind with the new classifications.....NOT just simple game players as some would think/claim.

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GameRager: Because everyone has to give a damn about something or life is less worth living? :\
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idbeholdME: Of course. But tastes of other people shouldn't be high on your priority list.
What if one has similar tastes/beliefs and likes finding kindred spirits? Also sometimes it's fun to find new things to like/dislike/etc or to choose to give a damn about. That also makes life more interesting.

(If you mean we shouldn;'t let other people's opinions/tastes make up upset/etc or take them too seriously I agree)
Post edited May 29, 2019 by GameRager
Posted May 29, 2019
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GameRager: This...these are also some of the majority of those that the WHO/etc had in mind with the new classifications.....NOT just simple game players as some would think/claim.

What if one has similar tastes/beliefs and likes finding kindred spirits? Also sometimes it's fun to find new things to like/dislike/etc or to choose to give a damn about. That also makes life more interesting.
People love drama and sensation, but they really need to learn to calm their whatever they prefer to say they've got.

Off topic: Congratulations, I think you proc'd my new avatar.
Post edited May 29, 2019 by Darvond
Posted May 29, 2019
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GameRager: This...these are also some of the majority of those that the WHO/etc had in mind with the new classifications.....NOT just simple game players as some would think/claim.

What if one has similar tastes/beliefs and likes finding kindred spirits? Also sometimes it's fun to find new things to like/dislike/etc or to choose to give a damn about. That also makes life more interesting.
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Darvond: People love drama and sensation, but they really need to learn to calm their whatever they prefer to say they've got.

Off topic: Congratulations, I think you proc'd my new avatar.
proc'd?

Aside: I was actually going to compliment your new avatar....weird that you brought it up. 0.o
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