Rixasha: The one thing that I really cared bout GOG.com was DRM-free, nothing else. They said all the right things and I believed them. I supported them even when they didn't support me, and I recommended them to everyone. I thought the cause was of great importance, and that GOG was worthy.

Several times I bought things I couldn't make use of, because wine just wasn't good enough. But that was okay, I never burdened GOG.com with support tickets for this, because I had no delusions that what I was doing was supported. In time wine might get better and the games would be waiting for me, free of any artificial restrictions that could otherwise stand in my way. I could wait. And I was supporting GOG.com with my wallet while doing it.

Now, ironically thanks to wine not being good enough, it has been brought to my attention that this is no longer the case. Installer files have been deliberately crippled, by GOG, by means of encrypting them with a password, with the sole aim of restricting the customer to running just the supported, sanctioned, installer. Anything else is to be shut out by a digital barrier, placed by GOG, for this very purpose.

Digitally. Restrict. The customer.

Wine doesn't matter. Linux doesn't matter. This is the red line, and you crossed it. If you cannot see what this is, then nothing you have to say about DRM in the future will mean anything, because who even knows what it means in your world anymore.

Enter password.

Rixasha: Digitally. Restrict. The customer.

Wine doesn't matter. Linux doesn't matter. This is the red line, and you crossed it. If you cannot see what this is, then nothing you have to say about DRM in the future will mean anything, because who even knows what it means in your world anymore.

Enter password.

liquidsnakehpks: what this does not make sense ? are you saying installer files are password protected ? how is this password check done ? online connection ? what if i forgot the password.

i must have missed something related to linux time for a full forum readup

thiagovscoelho: It doesn't allow you to translate the games either? Fuck that. Actually, this doesn't sound right: any modding of games would then be disallowed, right?

Fenixp: That's not all, tho. It's not just installers. GOG wants you to create an account and log in before you can download a game! They digitally. Restrict. The customer. for ages! Oh my god!

Fenixp: No, when you try to extract install files from the installer itself (in other words, instead of installing normally, you 'hack' the install file itself to extract data from it), the extracted data are password protected. Regular installing still works as always.

Fenixp: Wrong I'd say. GOG content are most likely the installers and such - the rule itself seems to state that you can do whatever with the installed content.

liquidsnakehpks: what this does not make sense ? are you saying installer files are password protected ? how is this password check done ? online connection ? what if i forgot the password.

Fenixp: That's not all, tho. It's not just installers.

thiagovscoelho: It doesn't allow you to translate the games either? Fuck that. Actually, this doesn't sound right: any modding of games would then be disallowed, right? And GOG itself has recommended some mods before, for Planescape Torment (see the game's forums) and maybe other stuff (I think they have a partnership with the makers of eduke32?). Maybe "GOG content" refers only to their installers?

d2t: pretty long to quote fully eh

Rixasha: The newer multi-part installers consist of an .exe and .bin files, which are really just password-protected .rar files. The installer .exe knows the password, you don't.

If you're unable or unwilling to run the installer, tough tits. Everything else will hit a wall of encryption, put in place by GOG for the sole purpose of keeping you out, you naughty thing.

We know the current password scheme thanks to reverse-engineering and disassembly, hacker measures that will be forbidden by the upcoming terms of service.

Rixasha: If the promise was to be spared from dismemberment, it is a small comfort to merely lose ones legs.

thiagovscoelho: Wait, no, at the top of the agreement they say that "GOG content" refers to the games/movies (and "GOG services" is the website/support).
So there's trouble with this whole agreement!
9.1a would prohibit monetized let's plays of GOG games

thiagovscoelho: 9.1b would prohibit mods

thiagovscoelho: 9.1d might prohibit tool-assisted speedruns?

thiagovscoelho: Hey, any blue people care to give input?

d2t: it's right above this post go read there

thiagovscoelho: The mods GOG recommended themselves don't sound like "official modding tools" so I dunno.

Rixasha: If the promise was to be spared from dismemberment, it is a small comfort to merely lose ones legs.

Fenixp: You can mod a game without modding tools and without reverse-engineering a game. Changing .ini lines and translating text is neither disassembling, nor reverse engineering, in most cases anyway. I've never seen GOG recommendign an .exe hack.

thiagovscoelho: It also says "modify" and "translate" in the same sentence, but I guess I'll do what everyone else has which is ignore all the verbs in there except for "reverse engineer".

Fenixp: Oh you're right, it does say that. Well, hold your horses still - every game you install has its own eula, which regulates what you can do with every individual product. Is there an elaboration of what GOG content is, exactly, that I have missed? Because if it's just content that GOG owns, well... That would make installers, some software wrappers and, most importantly, the Galaxy client.