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Posted July 06, 2017
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Thanks for bearing with us in this thread. We’d like to announce that today we’ve introduced the addition of new installers, with implemented GOG Galaxy client.

Like Destro described it back in May, we decided to separate the „new" and „classic” installers, for your choice. So if you don’t care about the features like achievements or cloud-saves and don’t want to use GOG Galaxy, you can download the „Classic Game Installer", just like it was handled before. For games that have new installers, the default download view on „My account” will show the "GOG Galaxy Game Installers" - you will notice that, as it is visibly described in „My account” game view. To download the „classic” ones, just go to „Options" and choose „Classic Installers”.

The new GOG Galaxy Game Installers were added to +100 games - a selection of all games that make use of GOG Galaxy features. I'll post the current list of games with the new installers in a separate post.
Going forward, all new games that will use GOG Galaxy features, will now receive both GOG Galaxy Game Installer and Classic Game Installer.

Introduction of GOG Galaxy Game Installers doesn’t change anything in terms of keeping the Classic Game Installers up to date. As soon as we receive an update for any game, we will prepare an updated version of the classic installer, just like it was done in the past.

Edit: Pinned.
Post edited July 06, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 09, 2017
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fables22: We're aware that there might be a size issue with the new installers, and we're working on it to make sure the installers are much smaller so that this is no longer a problem.
Sure, just make them download all the data at install time, so you can no longer install GOG games offline. This is just getting better and better.

Please tell me someone in authority is present to provide official answers to the million issues raised by this unprecedented "fuck you" to your long time supporters. Or did management expect this particular piece of Good News™ to pass by unnoticed?
Posted May 09, 2017
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tinyE: Hey dip shit, not everyone has unlimited bandwith and a reliable connection.
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Wishbone: He is talking about the benefits of choosing Steam over Galaxy, given that Galaxy is being forcibly crammed down our throats anyway. I'll admit his point didn't come across too clearly and he could have phrased it better, but it seems obvious to me from your reaction that you interpreted his post as lauding the benefits of Galaxy, which he wasn't.
Guess I should've worded mine better, as I was backing up their statement that steam has the better benefits too hehe.
Posted May 09, 2017
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synfresh: Some of you have been living in some sort of alternate reality
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Wishbone: He is talking about the benefits of choosing Steam over Galaxy, given that Galaxy is being forcibly crammed down our throats anyway. I'll admit his point didn't come across too clearly and he could have phrased it better, but it seems obvious to me from your reaction that you interpreted his post as lauding the benefits of Galaxy, which he wasn't.
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fishbaits: Guess I should've worded mine better, as I was backing up their statement that steam has the better benefits too hehe.
I removed my reply. :P Sorry about that. I'm a little pissy right now.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by tinyE
Posted May 09, 2017
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So is Galaxy going to be made mandatory at some point? A lot of us were worried about this very concept. We use GOG since we do not want to use a mandatory, always-online client. GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
Post edited May 09, 2017 by IronArcturus
Posted May 09, 2017
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IronArcturus: So is Galaxy going to be made mandatory at some point? A lot of us were worried about this very concept. We use GOG since we do not want to use a mandatory, always-online client. GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
Nope, the plan for GOG Galaxy always was and still is that it will remain optional.
Posted May 09, 2017
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IronArcturus: So is Galaxy going to be made mandatory at some point? A lot of us were worried about this very concept. We use GOG since we do not want to use mandatory, always-online client. GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
I don't think it'll be mandatory in the Steam sense but games/resource decisions will probably always have Galaxy as a factor. They are trying to bring over the Steam user, so they are going to market towards them. Another thing to keep in mind is they have all the analytics on how many use the client vs. who don't. You don't make these kinds of decisions without knowing who you will piss off the least.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by synfresh
Posted May 09, 2017
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IronArcturus: So is Galaxy going to be made mandatory at some point? A lot of us were worried about this very concept. We use GOG since we do not want to use a mandatory, always-online client. GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
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fables22: Nope, the plan for GOG Galaxy always was and still is that it will remain Optional™.
Fixed that for you ;-)
Posted May 09, 2017
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synfresh: Some of you have been living in some sort of alternate reality
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tinyE: Close

Copper Harbor, Michigan
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fishbaits: Guess I should've worded mine better, as I was backing up their statement that steam has the better benefits too hehe.
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tinyE: I removed my reply. :P Sorry about that. I'm a little pissy right now.
Aww, I missed whatever it was you typed ;)
Understandably pissy though, betting loads are right now.
Posted May 09, 2017
I feel a disturbance in the Force... What would master Yoda do ;) ?.Cheers
Post edited May 09, 2017 by deja65
Posted May 09, 2017
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fables22: As for the option being opted in as default - after careful consideration, we've decided to go with this because we believe that it's easier for an experienced user to uncheck the box than it would be for a new user to figure out how to turn the feature on.
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Gilozard: People who are downloading individual installers are precisely the people who don't want Galaxy! It's the norm for gamers to install a client if they want it. People downloading individual installers are already trying to opt out of Galaxy.

This is hassle that you are explicitly aiming at people who are clearly trying to opt out of Galaxy. The given reasoning is nonsense.
Indeed, especially considering that when users who are client dependent experience issues with downloading via Galaxy and post in the forum for help they often appear rather clueless when confronted with the possibility of manually downloading the offline installer for the game in question.

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InkPanther: Auto-selected Galaxy installation is not cool.

And as to the included Galaxy installer - is it actually a full installer or just a downloader?
Imagine if it's the full installer... that would certainly explain why they got rid of the game update notifications.
Posted May 09, 2017
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IronArcturus: So is Galaxy going to be made mandatory at some point? A lot of us were worried about this very concept. We use GOG since we do not want to use a mandatory, always-online client. GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
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fables22: Nope, the plan for GOG Galaxy always was and still is that it will remain optional.
Oh then you are surely able to explain this incident: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_wants_galaxy_to_stay_optional/
Posted May 09, 2017
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fables22: As for the option being opted in as default - after careful consideration, we've decided to go with this because we believe that it's easier for an experienced user to uncheck the box than it would be for a new user to figure out how to turn the feature on.
Seriously, I do use Galaxy, and I find that reasoning stupid. It means that each and every time someone uses an installer, they will have to uncheck the box. And if they forget even once, they will have it installed, and will have to track it down and exterminate it on their machine. That places you on the same shelf as some of the most irritating installers of the freeware world :/

To get the installer, someone already has to ignore the big blue "try galaxy" button on the download page. Maybe you should make that button more explicit and obvious, so that people will realize there are two different ways to install and that they are not identical? Or have that same advertisement to install galaxy to appear on the installer screen, so that people will be aware of the (unchecked) box under it?

Nobody likes irritating, heavy handed goons, so please don't becomlike that. Pretty please? With a DRM-free, digital cherry on top?
Post edited May 09, 2017 by Kardwill
Posted May 09, 2017
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I'm probably one of the biggest Galaxy supporters here, but I do agree with those saying it should be disabled/un-checked by default and you should have to opted-in. GOG be smart about this... no need to cause extra drama where none is needed. Overall I think there is a good reason behind it and it makes a lot sense, but this needs to be handled better.

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IronArcturus: We use GOG since we do not want to use a mandatory, always-online client.
Galaxy is not mandatory or always online... actually works fully offline, and every game can be launched via a shortcut, etc. without Galaxy. You only have to be online to download games or play online MP. Just an FYI...

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IronArcturus: GOG will be no different from Steam if Galaxy is necessary to run the game...
It is not necessary, Galaxy =/= DRM. They would actually have to intentionally add DRM for that to happen, and the moment that happens I be right there bitching and leaving too.
Post edited May 10, 2017 by user deleted
Posted May 09, 2017
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fables22: <snip>
I'm not a fan of this change either. As others have suggested, it would be much better if instead the new installers simply offered the option to download and install the Galaxy client instead (directly asking the user if they want it or not rather than leaving it to a checkbox that might be overlooked), rather than bundling it & setting it to install by default.
Posted May 09, 2017
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So far this is going almost as well as the time they introduced signatures. :P
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