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This dynamic mix of 3D and 2D pixel climbing action from Shady Corner Games is about to make your gaming session steamy hot – Tower of Boin is now available on GOG with a -10% discount that lasts until October 20th, 2 PM UTC.

In this title, the year is 833 of the Imperial Era, and a mysterious wave emanates from a mysterious tower that suddenly appears on the outskirts of the Imperial City. All of the women who were affected by the wave had their bodies transform in the most peculiar way... To solve the mystery, a female elf knight Lufia takes on the challenge of the mysterious tower on the outskirts of the imperial capital... the Tower of Boin.

Check it out!
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Darvond: To my understanding, the actual gameplay is based off an old C64 era game which, there's only so much you can stretch from that concept, given I think Kirby's Adventure and Battletoads wrung that cloth pretty thoroughly.
Which C64 game do you mean? Let me tell you: It's not Nebulus. It looks like it at first, but it plays very differently.
Does gog even have any gay games like this? It gets tiresome when everywhere in the world NSFW and nudity ONLY mean naked women, for het men.

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BreOl72: here on GOG, games that I get no access to, are permanently dangled before my nose
To me, that's better. Even if Germany won't let you see a game, at least gog lets you know it exists, so you could try to get it somewhere. Steam just blocks all knowledge of it, which is something I oppose.

What is Germany's reason for blocking mature/adult content? Is it for religious reasons? "Saving the children"? Keeping out gays? Some nebulous "moral decency" thing? How many things are affected in your country?
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BlueMooner: Does gog even have any gay games like this? It gets tiresome when everywhere in the world NSFW and nudity ONLY mean naked women, for het men.
There are quite a few games that offer both hetero- and homosexual romance options, but if you are looking specifically at "boy's love games":

https://www.gog.com/en/game/togainu_no_chi_lost_blood
https://www.gog.com/en/game/synthetic_lover
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dramatical_murder
https://www.gog.com/en/game/sweet_pool
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_symbiant
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BlueMooner: Does gog even have any gay games like this? It gets tiresome when everywhere in the world NSFW and nudity ONLY mean naked women, for het men.
There's a few, but GOG tends to stuff them between the couch cushions.

And sometimes with good reason, seeing as Synthetic Lover has Sameface Syndrome, and a lot of them imply shall we say, non-consent themes.
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BlueMooner: Does gog even have any gay games like this? It gets tiresome when everywhere in the world NSFW and nudity ONLY mean naked women, for het men.
They may be somewhat hard to find, since most people pay for straight content.
To get an overview, try sites like f95zone.to. Sure, it's basically a pirate site, but they have a good forum and cover a lot of games. Look for games with the 'gay' tag or ask in the game recoommendations thread.

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BlueMooner: What is Germany's reason for blocking mature/adult content? Is it for religious reasons?
Not really, Germany is quite tolerant when it comes to nudity. Quite a few 'naughty' games come from Germany and were sold openly in the stores back in the days:) Biing, Wet/Lula - The Sexy empire are famous examples (where the posters and ads for "Wet: The Sexy Empire" had to be changed. In the first draft her middle finger was ... "hidden" and in the third version of the cover they put the director's head in front of her private parts). And fun fact: These games are only rated 16+, and are still treated as adult games on GOG. Visible boobs or other parts in Germany don't necessarily mean it's adult content. Playboy magazines can be found in magazine shops on ground level, ready to picked up by milk hungry toddlers with the according strength.

No, it's a legal thing. Other than in the US for example, in Germany the USK rating is not just a suggestion, it's binding (for the trader. What parents do is another story).

And for some time now they also demand proper age verification. When you order a 18+ product from Amazon, you have to be at home to receive it, holding your papers ready. GOG would have to implement a verification system and that would mean very high costs. But then again, in theory GOG would have to do that for all games, including all the violent shooters which are subject to the same laws. There is no legal distinction why a game was rated 18+.
Only when a game was put on the BPjM index (doesn't happen as often as people think, but it happens), you must not put it on display openly and are not allowed to advertise it. But you can still sell it after proper age verification.

What GOG does here, is a sign of goodwill, hoping that lawyers and parents will look away. But legally it means nothing. They already don't follow the law as it is.
Post edited October 17, 2023 by neumi5694
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BreOl72: Honestly - I don't even know what GOG actually shows in regard to this game - since I can't (officially) access the game's page.
If I click on the link to the game's page, I get taken to the store's main page (nice little feature (almost only) reserved for German users).
You're not losing much this time. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

(see screenshots)

That's all there is to see, text included.
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joppo: You're not losing much this time. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

(see screenshots)

That's all there is to see, text included.
I will forward a favour that was done to me earlier in this thread:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/nsfw_release_tower_of_boin_from_shady_corner_games_b9a4c/post8

Granted: my screenshots were far more "daring", yet you might want to remove your attachments - just to be on the safe side.
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joppo: You're not losing much this time. Prepare to be underwhelmed.

(see screenshots)

That's all there is to see, text included.
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BreOl72: I will forward a favour that was done to me earlier in this thread:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/nsfw_release_tower_of_boin_from_shady_corner_games_b9a4c/post8

Granted: my screenshots were far more "daring", yet you might want to remove your attachments - just to be on the safe side.
I literally attached the exact background image downloaded from Gog's gamecard and a cropped screen capture. If they judge it inadequate they will have to ban themselves XD

Edit: there was a word too many
Post edited October 17, 2023 by joppo
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BlueMooner: What is Germany's reason for blocking mature/adult content? "Saving the children"?
To protect children/youth from content, which is not appropriate for their age.

Responsible for the age rating of computer games is the entertainment software self-control (USK).

Important: The age indicators are not pedagocical recommendations.
Younger children in particular react differently to violence or fear-inducing depictions.
But certain content can also have a disorienting effect on older teenagers and impair their development, so that parents still have to decide what is watched/played and what is not.

Service providers of third-party (digital) information must also take precautionary measures, to ensure that children and young people are able to participate in a carefree manner, and protect them from content that could impair their development.

Content harmful to minors:

A threat to young people occurs when media is capable of endangering the development of children or young people or their upbringing to become self-responsible and socially capable personalities.

These include, above all: immoral, brutalizing media that incite violence, crime or racial hatred, as well as media in which violent acts such as scenes of murder and butchery are depicted in detail for their own purpose or in which vigilante justice is suggested as the only proven means of enforcing supposed justice (§ 18 paragraph 1 JuSchG).

Other offenses that endanger young people include, for example: discrimination against certain groups of people, or the glorification of National Socialism.

In regard to sex/pornography:

General criteria:
Pornography it is, when a representation depicts sexual processes in a grossly intrusive, suggestive manner to the exclusion of all other human references and its overall orientation is aimed exclusively or predominantly at arousing a sexual stimulus (BGH, judgment of June 21, 1990). - 1 StR 477/89).

Typical content and design attributes:
Based on case law, the typical characteristics of pornography that trigger child protection restrictions are: productions that completely put human individuality and the personality traits of the individual into the background in order to present people as a de facto interchangeable object of sexual desire and turn them into such to degrade.

Irrelevance of the work form:
The term pornography includes all forms of design that, when viewed objectively, serve the sexual satisfaction or stimulation of the addressee.
This also applies to computer animations and other virtual designs.

Hard and Soft Pornography:
While soft pornographic content may be distributed on the Internet in a permissible manner with an effective and complete age verification system in place (Section 4 Paragraph 2 No. 1 JMStV; Section 15 Paragraph 2 in conjunction with Section 1 Paragraph 4 JuSchG), any indirect or direct reproduction of hard pornographic representations are prohibited from the outset (Section 4 Paragraph 1 No. 10 JMStV; Section 15 Paragraph 2 No. 1 JuSchG).

Hard pornography: includes all pornographic representations that focus on particularly despicable, immoral or inhumane sexual acts.
Content that combines pornography with violence, the sexual abuse of children or young people, or sexual acts between people and animals is considered hard pornography.

In contrast to the absolutely inadmissible hard pornographic content, soft pornographic representations are permitted on the Internet if sufficient information technology systems (age verification systems) are used to ensure that children and young people do not perceive them.

The classification of soft pornography: is based on the pornography concept presented at the beginning and includes all pornographic designs that are not absolutely prohibited as violent, minor or sodomy pornography.

The classification of an offer as soft pornography must always take into account all the circumstances of the individual case, but can nevertheless be based on certain standards.
Particularly in the case of detailed depictions of sexually suggestive sexual intercourse and other interpersonal sexual acts, there is an actual presumption of the existence of soft pornography.
Even close-ups or descriptions of erect sexual organs and references to male or female ejaculation can usually be considered to contain soft pornography.

Nude photos and depictions of sexual intercourse are also not automatically pornographic.
There is only a sufficient connection (to pornography) if the depictions allude to the sexual acts as the core of the production and are largely ignoring personal-individual references and other pointed storylines.
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mistycoven: There are quite a few games that offer both hetero- and homosexual romance options, but if you are looking specifically at "boy's love games":

https://www.gog.com/en/game/togainu_no_chi_lost_blood
https://www.gog.com/en/game/synthetic_lover
https://www.gog.com/en/game/dramatical_murder
https://www.gog.com/en/game/sweet_pool
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_symbiant
Sweet Pool and Togainu No Chi Lost Blood have the dubious distinction of being the first (only?) games I noticed that charge extra for the unrated patch.

So basically, they make the game, then do extra work to censor it and release the version that required extra work as the base offering, charging you extra for the original version that didn't require any extra work.

That is just special. Regardless of whether you are into gay sex or not (I'm not), it looks like a genuinely good game for those who enjoy horror, but I will not pay extra to play the game in its original unblemished format, the way its creator intended it to be played.

I'm just waiting for that game plus its patch to be thoroughly discounted at this point (so that the game + patch is less than 50% of the price of the original game).
Post edited October 18, 2023 by Magnitus
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Magnitus: So basically, they make the game, then do extra work to censor it and release the version that required extra work as the base offering, charging you extra for the original version that didn't require any extra work.
Sounds the same as any other release-day paid DLC.

They presumably do test the base game though. Some Karuga games' reviews say that the base game softlocks without the patch, because they've removed an event required for progress, or replaced a lewd boss with a different boss that's only beatable in its usual arena.
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Magnitus: Sweet Pool and Togainu No Chi Lost Blood have the dubious distinction of being the first (only?) games I noticed that charge extra for the unrated patch.
How much are these games for you on jastusa.com/games? They sell the uncensored versions.
And how much are other games that have free unrated patch on Gog like Kurokami-sama's Feast, Gore Screaming Show, VenusBlood for you?
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octalot: Sounds the same as any other release-day paid DLC.

They presumably do test the base game though. Some Karuga games' reviews say that the base game softlocks without the patch, because they've removed an event required for progress, or replaced a lewd boss with a different boss that's only beatable in its usual arena.
Except that your typical DLC represent extra content the dev worked for with the sweat of their brow to provide to you.

Here, the DLC represent removing extra content they previously added to censure the game. Its no extra work. The extra work was done in the base game adding the censure to begin with.

If anything, it's the people who play the censured version (game without the patch) who should pay extra. They are the ones who made the devs work harder here.

Its a very counter-intuitive way of doing business.

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저기: How much are these games for you on jastusa.com/games? They sell the uncensored versions.
And how much are other games that have free unrated patch on Gog like Kurokami-sama's Feast, Gore Screaming Show, VenusBlood for you?
It's not the final price for me.

Its about making businesses adopt sensible values that follow some basic common sense guidelines.
Post edited October 18, 2023 by Magnitus