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enigmaxg2: I had my two witchers together, now they are too separated and TW2 first :p
You call that a problem? 4 of my 5 blackwell games are together (although in disorder, since they have titles and not numbers), by the first one comes 3 pages later because its name is THE Blackwell Legacy, and they forgot to change it into Blackwell Legacy (the). ;)
Not the end of the world, sure, but the unbundling felt somewhat amateurish and it reflects badly on the professionalism of this store :p
Post edited May 12, 2015 by Kardwill
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bad_fur_day1: Wasn't me buddy. I'm just counting the tally. Gog should be concerned if they are loosing sales because they redesigned the shelf. All the more convincing for them to change it back.
Go counting how many sales Activision lost due to the lack of dedicated servers for Modern Warfare 2. This game was the biggest failure in gaming history and killed the Call of Duty franchise AND Activision! It did! Am I right...?

No, seriously, I think GOG can live with two "maybe lost sales".

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YaTEdiGo: It´s named ¨criticism through consumerism¨ and it works
I think it's called "Blown out of proportion whining". And no, it doesn't work. Didn't work for GOG's redesign and didn't work for Good News™. Quite the contrary, GOG kept growing and growing and growing since then. They signed Disney and Warner and released some not so old AAA titles just yesterday. Your "criticism" won't work, because GOG's strategy works. They'll happily show you the door if you insist on whining because of a redesigned game shelf - as long as you don't get in the way of the thousands of new users on their way in ;)

Criticise them all you want. Go out there and say "I don't like the new shelf, please allow manual sorting and alternative boxes." That's constructive. "Y U DO THIS!!!!! I NO MORE BUY GAMEZ FROM YOU!!!!" is not.

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YaTEdiGo: check what happened to the XBOX ONE vs the PS4.
Because a more expensive console with weaker hardware, always online DRM, a Kinect device that's watching and listening all the time and games that you can't even borrow from a friend because they're tied to your Account is EXACTLY the same as a redesigned virtual shelf...

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YaTEdiGo: Seriously, I was not looking STEAM in the last 6 months? 1 game bought in half a year there, more than 50 games here in half a year bought... time to start to take a glance to VALVE again...
Enjoy your Steam shelf then ;)
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bad_fur_day1: Wasn't me buddy. I'm just counting the tally. Gog should be concerned if they are loosing sales because they redesigned the shelf. All the more convincing for them to change it back.
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real.geizterfahr: Go counting how many sales Activision lost due to the lack of dedicated servers for Modern Warfare 2. This game was the biggest failure in gaming history and killed the Call of Duty franchise AND Activision! It did! Am I right...?

No, seriously, I think GOG can live with two "maybe lost sales".

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YaTEdiGo: It´s named ¨criticism through consumerism¨ and it works
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real.geizterfahr: I think it's called "Blown out of proportion whining". And no, it doesn't work. Didn't work for GOG's redesign and didn't work for Good News™. Quite the contrary, GOG kept growing and growing and growing since then. They signed Disney and Warner and released some not so old AAA titles just yesterday. Your "criticism" won't work, because GOG's strategy works. They'll happily show you the door if you insist on whining because of a redesigned game shelf - as long as you don't get in the way of the thousands of new users on their way in ;)

Criticise them all you want. Go out there and say "I don't like the new shelf, please allow manual sorting and alternative boxes." That's constructive. "Y U DO THIS!!!!! I NO MORE BUY GAMEZ FROM YOU!!!!" is not.

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YaTEdiGo: check what happened to the XBOX ONE vs the PS4.
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real.geizterfahr: Because a more expensive console with weaker hardware, always online DRM, a Kinect device that's watching and listening all the time and games that you can't even borrow from a friend because they're tied to your Account is EXACTLY the same as a redesigned virtual shelf...

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YaTEdiGo: Seriously, I was not looking STEAM in the last 6 months? 1 game bought in half a year there, more than 50 games here in half a year bought... time to start to take a glance to VALVE again...
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real.geizterfahr: Enjoy your Steam shelf then ;)
Yes, probably they can live without an average of 50$ spend here per month! if not more ;) , Xbox strategy was working pretty fine until they decided to be a new ¨nintendo for everyone¨ and decided to open the door for users to go to play ... Playstation ...

But hey, let the STEAM community coming here, because this is the same thing, right? Constructive is telling the truth, even to your best friends, even if it hurts... Time will tell, you are no one to tell me where to spend my money, GOG is, and if they do not please me as a user and want to please others is their business. I will be more than glad to not be one of all those new fantastic users coming here. Chill!
Post edited May 12, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
Come on GOG, pages?? really??? Pages??? That's so 2000... I want my infinite scrolling back.
Even now, in some place on Earth that are still people arguing over the price of tea in China. And somewhere, even now, there's someone at the GOG forum pissed off about yet something else.

My take on the new game account page? Looked like the main game store menu that GOG uses. Hell, I was looking for games to click on and buy, then realized that they were the games I already had bought and played. Damn marketing tricksters. Had me fooled for a second. But then my credit card called me a moron for trying to RE-buy the same games I had already paid for. That seemed to smarten me up.
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blotunga: Come on GOG, pages?? really??? Pages??? That's so 2000... I want my infinite scrolling back.
I agree that feature definitely needs to be reimplemented.
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Matruchus: I agree that feature definitely needs to be reimplemented.
I wonder if it could be fixed somehow using Barefoot essentials. I remember that Steamgifts Plus could fix it for steamgifts.
It I have to have pages, I want a lot more. I don't mind Scrolling. I don't mind flippin the page. I find having to do both.. redundant. But then I have that exact same issue with .. pretty much every web page ever since the dawn of time.

I have no strong opinion on the removal of manual sorting either way. Considering for me (ymmv) it never worked properly anyway, then stopped working at all once I hit "the Stitch limit" a few years ago. Seems strange that something that never worked properly in the first place is something to create such a noise when it was replaced. Especially since GOG has done so much stuff badly in so many other areas I would have thought removing something broken would be barely noticed.
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YaTEdiGo: Next...
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Fenixp: or backing those purchased games on a harddrive and using some form of virtual shelf software. It allows you full control over your shelf, without having to depend on whims of an online store, and you can add other games than just those from GOG. I'm not sure about it, there's online tool specialized precisely for this purpose over here but that can end up precisely like GOG, then there's stuff like CGstar - however, you'd probably need to put some research into finding the ideal tool
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Fenixp: or backing those purchased games on a harddrive and using some form of virtual shelf software. It allows you full control over your shelf, without having to depend on whims of an online store, and you can add other games than just those from GOG. I'm not sure about it, there's online tool specialized precisely for this purpose over here but that can end up precisely like GOG, then there's stuff like CGstar - however, you'd probably need to put some research into finding the ideal tool
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Fenixp:
We are telling you our amazing little experiences buying here and playing with our shelf because we do not have time to play all we own, and you write us a tutorial about copy our games in a hard drive and use a program to manage the games... (not time consuming at all...)

the ideal tool was GOG.com the way it was... I really liked it, buy your game then organize it by yourself... it was a little pleasure that took 5 to 10 min after the purchase...

and purchases work through pleasure, compulsive orders too, we got our brains stimulated to put order to our libraries, I know what I am talking about it, it is my job. Now we can just PLAY the games... sure, like we have time to do so...

Their choice, they are deeply ignoring some basic rules of engagement. By the way the Galaxy LOGO is UGLY
Post edited May 12, 2015 by YaTEdiGo
I put a fair amount of effort into ensuring that my games were sorted in a way that was meaningful to me, and now not only are they sorted by meaningless values but I cannot even see them all on the same page! I hope we see some positive changes in the future.
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YaTEdiGo: We are telling you our amazing little experiences buying here and playing with our shelf because we do not have time to play all we own, and you write us a tutorial about copy our games in a hard drive and use a program to manage the games... (not time consuming at all...)
Well sure it costs time, don't know what about you, but when I care about something, I make time for it. And the moment you get it working the way you like it to, you won't be reliant on a store which focuses on luring as many clients as possible (which basically means becoming DRM-free version of Steam) and instead will only get to use what you like and what you set-up yourself.

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YaTEdiGo: and purchases work through pleasure, compulsive orders too, we got our brains stimulated to put order to our libraries, I know what I am talking about it, it is my job. Now we can just PLAY the games... sure, like we have time to do so...
Personally, I take far more pleasure from what I create than from what gets auto-generated for me. And when you use specialized software, everything is under your control - but it takes more effort, true. But don't blame me if I stop taking you seriously the moment you say "I refuse to put effort into what I want," because at that point, it probably wasn't so important to you in the first place.
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YaTEdiGo: We are telling you our amazing little experiences buying here and playing with our shelf because we do not have time to play all we own, and you write us a tutorial about copy our games in a hard drive and use a program to manage the games... (not time consuming at all...)
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Fenixp: Well sure it costs time, don't know what about you, but when I care about something, I make time for it. And the moment you get it working the way you like it to, you won't be reliant on a store which focuses on luring as many clients as possible (which basically means becoming DRM-free version of Steam) and instead will only get to use what you like and what you set-up yourself.

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YaTEdiGo: and purchases work through pleasure, compulsive orders too, we got our brains stimulated to put order to our libraries, I know what I am talking about it, it is my job. Now we can just PLAY the games... sure, like we have time to do so...
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Fenixp: Personally, I take far more pleasure from what I create than from what gets auto-generated for me. And when you use specialized software, everything is under your control - but it takes more effort, true. But don't blame me if I stop taking you seriously the moment you say "I refuse to put effort into what I want," because at that point, it probably wasn't so important to you in the first place.
That´s supposed to be sophism, right?
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YaTEdiGo: That´s supposed to be sophism, right?
No, I presume you don't particularily care whether or not I take you seriously. It's supposed to be what I think, and I guess you care about what I think since you're still communicating with me.

Anyway, in the meantime, I've tried out GCStar, Game Collector and Game Catalog software because I actually got interested in whether I can create an offline library of my own - GCStar actually seems awesome, but can only fetch information from MobyGames for some reason and you have to add box art manually. Game Collector, while paid, is great at automatically getting info - but the UI is terrible, and shelf display is extremely low-res for some reason. I might end up making it a challenge and start writing one of my own. Hmmm, now there's an idea...
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tinyE: I understand that this is a problem for some but I think there might be a tad bit of overreaction here. I for one am happy so long as the games are there, and I have over 600 of them! :P I say, make sure I can get to and play the games, fuck with the shelf later. :D
Indeed. While they've removed the manual shelf for now, I think that there is a good chance at some point in the future that they might consider adding it back or adding some other options that ultimately serve the same purpose in one form or another. If not, someone will likely create a similar function in an alternative client in the future when they publish the specs some time after it is released out of beta and stabilized.

I can see people being disappointed temporarily about it but to be outraged or angry is a tad bit of an overreaction IMHO. There are many many much more important things that they can and should be working hard on right now and shitloads of bugs both on the website that affect everyone.

I'll be surprised if they don't revisit the idea of a manual sort at some point in time but it's more of an aesthetic thing than anything really. I've got 400+ games on my own shelf and some series games are out of order or a game or two are named differently and in very different places alphabetically etc. but it's a relatively minor thing that I'm not going to boycott the store for (hurting myself more than GOG or anyone else) or take any other harsh actions about.

One way or another things will sort themselves out over time. Patience is a virtue.