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The colors have to meet a certain standard which has been measured, so it is not just a subjective thing, instead measurable by pretty solid evidence. However, reviewers often totally forgot to tell under what conditions those "color accuracy" and gamut has been achieved and that color accuracy and gamut is NOT the same. Some screens are very accurate at very bright material (especially most LCDs) but rather weak at very dark material. A really good screen can be accurate at every brightness and at first even at low brightness, which is generally more challenging because the gamut is naturally reduced... it have to use black levels and gray-levels way more than at any other material, really challenging.

Gamut simply means, the in theory maximum amount of colors it can reproduce but if a picture for example is only black and white or with a lot of dark material... obviously this gamut is not a big matter... yet the accuracy of the colors and black levels would be very important on such a term.

So it totally depends on the material and its demand. Obviously if there is HDR material present then a high peak nits is important... if no HDR present... then it does not matter a lot because it will not lack accuracy or capability without the required nits.

So, most important is high accuracy and good black levels first... which can be done by my Plasma already. Other stuff is a bonus.... and HDR is becoming more important with every new year (for gamers, RT is in strong demand for). I do agree, i do not enjoy screens with to high brightness... so what i truly want is a high dynamic value, so that HDR can work properly on some very bright content. In general... i keep the brightness low and am more into "high accuracy and black levels". As i already told... a Plasma and a OLED is great doing so.
Post edited June 16, 2025 by Xeshra
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Xeshra: The colors have to meet a certain standard which has been measured, so it is not just a subjective thing, instead measurable by pretty solid evidence.
Of course, but what really matters is the final result. E.g., how a person's eyeballs perceive the presented image. And that will often differ from one person to another. Even the best calibrated display in the world can look off to somebody. I can read color specs all day, but until I actually witness what's up, it's just pretty numbers. Unlike the "hard specs", like resolution, refresh rate etc. The color space percentages and such are important for someone doing something like graphical design of course, but for regular users? I'd say not that crucial. Nice to have definitely, but not crucial.
Post edited June 17, 2025 by idbeholdME
A bit of a sidenote

I had to install steam again. What an event, when you connect to the steam network it feels as if you enter the vestibule of hell. Connected to the hope and dreams of, maybe atm, lost beings once human roaming the ever-growing tendrils of Chaos. I am so glad you can turn steam off. What a terror!

Why, you would ask.

The answer is quite simple. Only on steam, i have access to this nifty little program that manages to reduce powerdraw, at the cost of sharpness.

Lossles Scaling.

GoG really should grab hold of something similar magnificent.

I managed to run Total War Warhammer 2, high settings, on a 2k level of sharpness for no less than 100W at 60 FPS. I managed to get it running in under 20 mins. The only thing left is to find the reason why my mind felt a bit garbled afterwards. I suspect framegen, boosting fps from 30 to 60, creating this very fluid game environment. We'll see.

If this is the other side of the MEGAWATT home future, i can be mildly enthusiast.

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Sidenote regarding ~My Upgraded Build~

Sometimes the complexity of computer programs elude me.

Take for example the way how NVIDIA handled upscaling and sharpening techniques. At some point, you could enable Nadia's sharpening technique for any title. With the ongoing modernization of Nvidia, NVIDIA app and such, this feature was apparently removed in favour of a combination of upscaling and sharpening at the same time.

I was hoping to make full use of the old sharpening feature to improve the image quality for certain titles in HD mode, especially during the summer period i like to game with a low wattage consumption but much to my dismay i found that for a lot of titles only sharpening + upscaling is enabled. The technique in its self is wonderful and really helpful if this is what you are looking for but, the doubling in wattage is exactly not what i was after.

As the stingy Dutchman that i am, i of course want to drive a Ferrari for a dime or at least have a similar feeling for using something unattainable, and so i set of on my Google search.

First Stop. Nvidia filters, apparently Nvidia provides a multitude of filters from their overlay, and yes i noticed those, but of course not for my test game of today, Total War Warhammer 3 (at 4k low settings 60 FPS a screaming 430W of my max 450W GPU output?!?! Can you imagine!!!

The second stop would have been using filters from a 3d, but my eye fell on a YT namedSECRET NVIDIA TECHNIQUE this silly video explains how you can re-enable the old function in which both sharpening and scaling can be activated separately.

What a relief, I can tell you.

God bless those people, smarten than me!
Post edited June 19, 2025 by Mr. Zim
You know what, i even started to appreciate FSR. When i would activate FSR on my previous main monitor, results were less than encouraging. After about 15 mins of playing thoughts about impending doom would start to arrive from the lower left brain, probably indicating some kind of brain damage about to occur.... With my new Alienware monitor these hopes and dreams belong to a dark age hidden deep in someone else's past. I even like the quality feel of FSR in HD better than running without scaling! At least in Rogue Trader, that is. This realization suddenly set in late last night and I immediately planned a rigorous investigation of the worth of FSR for me and my next of kin starting today!
'Scuse me for hijacking a little here, but I just wanted to mention that this thread making me have that quick look at monitors earlier this month led to me actually buying that one that I stumbled into then.
Really didn't mean to replace my trusty 18.5 y/o one, but knew I'll have to someday and now that I found something that seemed to really fit what I was looking for (>30" 2560xsmth, not black, not using more power than my old one at least on some settings, can have 5 year warranty even if purchased separately), even the same brand, and at a nice price, lowest since it launched in October according to a price tracker from here and with a 10% discount on top of that and utterly crushing any of the others I've been looking at from this point of view, and with what's likely to happen with prices and taxes over here now, I pulled the trigger. Just using it in economy mode, just at 60 Hz, no sRGB, obviously no HDR, no Ambiglow or anything else, since this actually makes it consume exactly as much as my old one (albeit with sRGB active and 75 Hz for that one), though we're talking about 2560x1440 31.5" vs. 1280x1024 19".
But damn it's big. This will take quite some getting used to.
Post edited June 25, 2025 by Cavalary
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Cavalary: 'Scuse me for hijacking a little here, but I just wanted to mention that this thread making me have that quick look at monitors earlier this month led to me actually buying that one that I stumbled into then.
Really didn't mean to replace my trusty 18.5 y/o one, but knew I'll have to someday and now that I found something that seemed to really fit what I was looking for (>30" 2560xsmth, not black, not using more power than my old one at least on some settings, can have 5 year warranty even if purchased separately), even the same brand, and at a nice price, lowest since it launched in October according to a price tracker from here and with a 10% discount on top of that and utterly crushing any of the others I've been looking at from this point of view, and with what's likely to happen with prices and taxes over here now, I pulled the trigger. Just using it in economy mode, just at 60 Hz, no sRGB, obviously no HDR, no Ambiglow or anything else, since this actually makes it consume exactly as much as my old one (albeit with sRGB active and 75 Hz for that one), though we're talking about 2560x1440 31.5" vs. 1280x1024 19".
But damn it's big. This will take quite some getting used to.
utters an amazed, enthusiast, encouraging sound

No probs, pal, it is absolutely thrilling to hear! And what a size.. I already have 2 screens and a case on my desk else i would also have gone a bit bigger.... It would be nice to hear more if you are more accustomed
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Mr. Zim: It would be nice to hear more if you are more accustomed
Seeing how little I ever plan to use out of what it can do, not sure of how much use what I'd have to say would be, even less so for someone looking at the enthusiast range and squeezing all the features and performance out when I'm looking at efficiency and durability.
What I can say right now is that I should probably sit farther away from it that my desk allows, and at the edges it looks darker from this angle, but they're barely in my normal field of view anyway.
I'll just leave this here for a size comparison. 'Scuse the image quality.
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Mr. Zim: It would be nice to hear more if you are more accustomed
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Cavalary: Seeing how little I ever plan to use out of what it can do, not sure of how much use what I'd have to say would be, even less so for someone looking at the enthusiast range and squeezing all the features and performance out when I'm looking at efficiency and durability.
What I can say right now is that I should probably sit farther away from it that my desk allows, and at the edges it looks darker from this angle, but they're barely in my normal field of view anyway.
I'll just leave this here for a size comparison. 'Scuse the image quality.
What a difference! I still have some good memories with that, a, 1280 monitor. Especially for my 2d dogfighting days in Trench War. After we upgraded to another, 1600x900, monitor, my situational awareness changed a lot. I did become a better sniper, but my heart always is with those moments where you can see the white in your op's eyeballs.

anyway! GL with it. I hope you manage your efficiency goals
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Mr. Zim: anyway! GL with it. I hope you manage your efficiency goals
Thanks.
And so far that seems to be the case. Total system use with CPU at 100% (used by BOINC) but iGPU not doing any work, 104W, and with iGPU doing a little work, like watching a video or playing an old game, 109W, exactly the same as with the old monitor, so the monitor itself uses the same 21W.
Turn on sRGB and that shoots up to 135W! So 31W more, about 150% increase! Messed up.

PS: One thing that I definitely do notice is the pixel orbiting. Ah well, guess it has its use...
Post edited June 25, 2025 by Cavalary
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Mr. Zim: anyway! GL with it. I hope you manage your efficiency goals
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Cavalary: Thanks.
And so far that seems to be the case. Total system use with CPU at 100% (used by BOINC) but iGPU not doing any work, 104W, and with iGPU doing a little work, like watching a video or playing an old game, 109W, exactly the same as with the old monitor, so the monitor itself uses the same 21W.
Turn on sRGB and that shoots up to 135W! So 31W more, about 150% increase! Messed up.

PS: One thing that I definitely do notice is the pixel orbiting. Ah well, guess it has its use...
Ai, i should measure too btw.... I lost my wallmeter :-s The alien ware has a max tdp of 140W alone

Still, those are pretty nice figures! Is the 135W measurement exceeding some kind of threshold?
Holla! Power prices in Netherlands seems to be a real hard truck.

Lets see:

What Can I Unplug? These Household Items Cost the Most Electricity

Cooling and heating: 47% of energy use
Water heater: 14% of energy use
Washer and dryer: 13% of energy use
Lighting: 12% of energy use
Refrigerator: 4% of energy use
Electric oven: 3-4% of energy use
TV, DVD, cable box: 3% of energy use
Dishwasher: 2% of energy use
Computer: 1% of energy use

Okay... i guess a hardcore gamers computer is probably way more than 1%, more like 20% and the TV/monitor around 10%. Cooling and heating is definitely most expensive but not everyone is heating using electricity (some other sources instead or they live in a tropical climate... a lot of luck for power bills) and some people use no cooling at all.
Post edited June 26, 2025 by Xeshra
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Mr. Zim: Still, those are pretty nice figures! Is the 135W measurement exceeding some kind of threshold?
The "threshold" is to be as low as possible. The old computer was drawing 83W total, this one draws that exact same amount without monitor, so I was already up by a quarter, don't want anything more.
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Xeshra: Holla! Power prices in Netherlands seems to be a real hard truck.

Lets see:

What Can I Unplug? These Household Items Cost the Most Electricity

Cooling and heating: 47% of energy use
Water heater: 14% of energy use
Washer and dryer: 13% of energy use
Lighting: 12% of energy use
Refrigerator: 4% of energy use
Electric oven: 3-4% of energy use
TV, DVD, cable box: 3% of energy use
Dishwasher: 2% of energy use
Computer: 1% of energy use

Okay... i guess a hardcore gamers computer is probably way more than 1%, more like 20% and the TV/monitor around 10%. Cooling and heating is definitely most expensive but not everyone is heating using electricity (some other sources instead or they live in a tropical climate... a lot of luck for power bills) and some people use no cooling at all.
Heh, no cooling (except maybe a fan turned on by my father on extremely hot days, mostly for the cat's benefit, otherwise we deal with heat quite well), heating and hot water from the city grid, no drier, washing machine used once or twice a week, no dishwasher, electric oven probably not even used once a month, there's the gas one for cooking and microwave for heating stuff, lighting is all LED and used when and where needed, so there's the refrigerator, more recently a dehumidifier used a few times a week while it was colder, and then there are the 2 TVs and the 2 computers, with my father's using little and only being on when needed while mine's 24/7... And with the old computer and before the dehumidifier there were months when we got below 160 kWh/month, now 180-190. And if you do the math and consider the monitor on for about half the time, 83*12*30+104*12*30 makes for close to 70 kWh for this computer as it is, and there are the moments when the iGPU draws more, so 70 seems fair. That's nearly 40% of the total. Any increase will really show.
Post edited June 26, 2025 by Cavalary
LED? In my household yes but not on my car. It still got halogen-bulbs which got the best light-quality with a RA value of 100%. Those halogen-bulbs from my car probably may need the same power such as your entire PC... on maximum brightness probably more. The car got a air conditioner with cooling, but the increase in power demand is near zero because the compressor for the cooling is completely mechanically driven by the combustion-engine. Sure, the entire power is from the generator, so the battery is just a buffer.

Most likely, when everything enabled, my car is using more electricity than your entire household.

Bad for environment? Well... the thing is... every second there is so much energy arriving on planet Earth that it would exceed any energy we actually create by a value countless times higher than what we actually use. We got a issue into "picking up" those energy and storing this energy somewhere... in which hydrogen could be a key-resource. But so far, the technology behind is just to expensive for most of the "lesser humans" so, we may have to accept saving up energy at every single spot if we lack the money or the ability of gathering and storing energy. There is no energy lack... the issue is on other spots.

It is a completely different approach. Instead of saving up like mad for whatever reason... rather produce more energy (at best the very own energy... because energy "from outside" is always robbery at its pricing) and if the infrastructure is alright, there can be more energy produced than its producer ever need. It is not a fairy tale but so far we simply lack the infrastructure in most cases.

No clue about the "city grid" but it seems the resource with the highest demand for energy, although it might be way cheaper for you if "the city" is in some way taking over that matter by a efficient infrastructure they already got.

Financial help from the state and investors of any kind would help a lot for getting the required infrastructures up and running but as long as everyone mostly is primarily concerned about "security" and how we can eliminate each others (in some way) there is to less human-power involved into creating something actually with a real benefit for humankind.
Post edited June 26, 2025 by Xeshra