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This is my favourite topic
Posted August 25, 2013
Capcom:
-Devil May Cry Series (3,4, and DmC 2013)
-Street Fighter Series

All I can think of at the moment.
Posted August 25, 2013
EA : ROAD RASH
Posted August 25, 2013
Just remember that any game that has real-world cars in it (e.g. Race Driver/Dirt/Need for Speed) isn't really an "original IP" as it uses the IP from the car makers and any re-release of those titles on GoG would require car maker licensing/approval too.
Posted August 26, 2013
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ggf162: First of all, there's no way I would allow CoD onto this site. Second of all, why just Burnout: Paradise? Why not the rest of the series?
Paradise is the only one in the series that was actually released on PC AFAIK! (Burnout, unlike NFS uses made-up car names and brands)
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Fever_Discordia: snip
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F4LL0UT: Assuming that all the Sierra franchises went to Activision:
Woodruff and the Schnibble (similar to Goblins but a separate IP as far as I can tell)
Hunter Hunted
Empire of the Ants
Aces of the Deep

EA:
Freedom Fighters (although the rights may have been passed to Squeenix - also present on GOG though, so doesn't really matter)
Need for Speed series

Square Enix:
Kane & Lynch

Ubisoft:
Shadow Company
Conflict Zone

Codemasters:
Race Driver Series (was on GOG, has been removed)
Colin McRae/Dirt series (was on GOG, has been removed)
Second Sight (was on GOG, has been removed)
Prisoner of War
Dizzy series
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IAmSinistar: Unless an actual licensing agreement was entered into with the Strugatsky estate trustholders, GSC has got precious little claim. Somehow I doubt they've paid any residuals to either the Strugatsky trustholders or to Tarkovsky, whose cinematic interpretation of Roadside Picnic they also reference.
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F4LL0UT: The fun part is that the German company claimed to have met with the remaining Strugatsky brother shortly before he died and to have secured the rights with a contract while nobody at GSC seems to have ever contacted him (according to the article where I got the story from - it was from a good magazine, the CD-Action, so I assume that it's true).

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Here's part of the story on it. Okay, either I remembered something the wrong way or the article I read wasn't quite correct. According to this article here bitComposer is the insane assholish company here claiming that owning the rights to Roadside Picnic automatically provides them with all the rights to the STALKER universe. That's fucked up.
Yeah, the removed car games were removed because of licensing rights over car likenesses so I'm not including anything with real-world cars, including NSF, I'll look at the rest later though, thanks!
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jonwil: Just remember that any game that has real-world cars in it (e.g. Race Driver/Dirt/Need for Speed) isn't really an "original IP" as it uses the IP from the car makers and any re-release of those titles on GoG would require car maker licensing/approval too.
This!

Thanks

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RayRay13000: Capcom:
-Devil May Cry Series (3,4, and DmC 2013)
-Street Fighter Series

All I can think of at the moment.
GOG has Street Fighter Alpha 2 so any missing street fighters should go on damien's list (see link in the first post)
I'll probably add DMC series later
Thanks
Post edited August 26, 2013 by Fever_Discordia
Posted August 26, 2013
Speaking of licensed car licenses being an issue, I have a nagging doubt that certain modern shooters may have licensing issues with real world guns - I've certainly heard that some FPSes link to pages where you can buy the real world versions of the guns you're using, alarmingly!
Also I've included Tome Clancy's HAWKS but what about licensing likenesses of fighter jets? Do they have to pay money to Lockheed Martin or whoever?
Unlike the cars which I'm sure is a thing, I'll leave the others on the list until someone tells me otherwise!
Posted August 26, 2013
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F4LL0UT: The fun part is that the German company claimed to have met with the remaining Strugatsky brother shortly before he died and to have secured the rights with a contract while nobody at GSC seems to have ever contacted him (according to the article where I got the story from - it was from a good magazine, the CD-Action, so I assume that it's true).

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Here's part of the story on it. Okay, either I remembered something the wrong way or the article I read wasn't quite correct. According to this article here bitComposer is the insane assholish company here claiming that owning the rights to Roadside Picnic automatically provides them with all the rights to the STALKER universe. That's fucked up.
Yah, just as bad as the other scenario. Plus it seems that if anyone holding the rights to Roadside Picnic/Stalker (movie) didn't consider S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a licensed property at the time the first game was released (to say nothing of the following two), it's legally dubious for a later licensee to suddenly swoop in and make such a claim. Was a final legal decision ever made either way on this?
Posted August 26, 2013
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Fever_Discordia: Yeah, the removed car games were removed because of licensing rights over car likenesses so I'm not including anything with real-world cars, including NSF
Can't really agree with that logic (starting with the fact that it may have been the music and not car likenesses that caused the games to be taken down). Anyway, it's still original IPs and car licenses aren't much different than licensed music and you wouldn't remove games from the list because of expired music licensing deals, eh? Plus we still have a few games with real-world cars on GOG (i.e. Far Cry 2 and I think GRID, right?).
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IAmSinistar: Plus it seems that if anyone holding the rights to Roadside Picnic/Stalker (movie) didn't consider S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a licensed property at the time the first game was released (to say nothing of the following two), it's legally dubious for a later licensee to suddenly swoop in and make such a claim. Was a final legal decision ever made either way on this?
I don't know yet. The only information I've had so far is that the two parties are in conflict and obviously at least one of them is talking out of its ass. But yeah, the whole scenario is insane. It's almost as if someone suddenly came along claiming to have the exclusive rights to The Heart of Darkness and would thus consider Apocalypse Now, SpecOps: The Line and even System Shock (yup, also originally conceived as an adaptation of that book) his property.
Post edited August 26, 2013 by F4LL0UT
Posted August 26, 2013
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Fever_Discordia: Yeah, the removed car games were removed because of licensing rights over car likenesses so I'm not including anything with real-world cars, including NSF
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F4LL0UT: Can't really agree with that logic (starting with the fact that it may have been the music and not car likenesses that caused the games to be taken down). Anyway, it's still original IPs and car licenses aren't much different than licensed music and you wouldn't remove games from the list because of expired music licensing deals, eh? Plus we still have a few games with real-world cars on GOG (i.e. Far Cry 2 and I think GRID, right?).
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IAmSinistar: Plus it seems that if anyone holding the rights to Roadside Picnic/Stalker (movie) didn't consider S.T.A.L.K.E.R. a licensed property at the time the first game was released (to say nothing of the following two), it's legally dubious for a later licensee to suddenly swoop in and make such a claim. Was a final legal decision ever made either way on this?
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F4LL0UT: I don't know yet. The only information I've had so far is that the two parties are in conflict and obviously at least one of them is talking out of its ass. But yeah, the whole scenario is insane. It's almost as if someone suddenly came along claiming to have the exclusive rights to The Heart of Darkness and would thus consider Apocalypse Now, SpecOps: The Line and even System Shock (yup, also originally conceived as an adaptation of that book) his property.
I'm sure it was stated at the time that they were taken down because of car likenesses, or that was what everyone assumed, can't remember now
Often licensed music on soundtrack can be easily removed - GTA: VC with the Michael Jackson tracks for example but car models are much harder
We DO have games on GOG with real world cars but there's a few other real world IPs here too - White Wolf World of Darkness (Vampire), D&D, Chronicles of Riddick etc. so I don't think I'm being inconsistent there.
I'll probably add Second Sight tonight - does anyone know why it went? Seems odd - I assume a spat between Codemasters and Free Radicle? But I wouldn't add XIII because its licensed from a graphic novel, for instance.
Post edited August 26, 2013 by Fever_Discordia
Posted August 26, 2013
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F4LL0UT: Here's part of the story on it. Okay, either I remembered something the wrong way or the article I read wasn't quite correct. According to this article here bitComposer is the insane assholish company here claiming that owning the rights to Roadside Picnic automatically provides them with all the rights to the STALKER universe. That's fucked up.
Wow, that's just insane.
Posted August 26, 2013
Nordic Games : Titan Quest series (THQ - Nordic).
Posted August 26, 2013
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Fever_Discordia: I'll probably add Second Sight tonight - does anyone know why it went? Seems odd - I assume a spat between Codemasters and Free Radicle? But I wouldn't add XIII because its licensed from a graphic novel, for instance.
Indeed, XIII doesn't qualify for the list. As for Second Sight - well, it disappeared about the same time a few other Codemasters games disappeared temporarily. IIRC Soldiers and Perimeter were also published by Codemasters at first, were taken down and came back thanks to 1C Publishing. It seems that Codemasters has generally had some legal issues with its properties, most likely a bit more complicated and obscure than the usual stuff.
Posted August 26, 2013
I do hope Introversion Software (Darwinia/Multiwinia, Uplink, DEFCON) bring Prison Architect here when it's finished...
Posted August 26, 2013
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Fever_Discordia: I'll probably add Second Sight tonight - does anyone know why it went? Seems odd - I assume a spat between Codemasters and Free Radicle? But I wouldn't add XIII because its licensed from a graphic novel, for instance.
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F4LL0UT: Indeed, XIII doesn't qualify for the list. As for Second Sight - well, it disappeared about the same time a few other Codemasters games disappeared temporarily. IIRC Soldiers and Perimeter were also published by Codemasters at first, were taken down and came back thanks to 1C Publishing. It seems that Codemasters has generally had some legal issues with its properties, most likely a bit more complicated and obscure than the usual stuff.
Oh additionally the Colin McRae games use the late, great Colin McRae's name (which, OK, is slightly shaky ground if I'm including Tom Clancy and American McGee) and the Race Driver games are 'ToCA Race Driver' and license a bunch of FIA and other organisation's championships - BTCC, WTCC, DTM etc

The Need for Speed games are pretty much just the cars though...
Posted August 26, 2013
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Fever_Discordia: But I wouldn't add XIII because its licensed from a graphic novel, for instance.
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F4LL0UT: Indeed, XIII doesn't qualify for the list.
XIII was already here once before. Don't expect it's coming back any time soon, so probably best to leave off the list.
Posted August 26, 2013
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IAmSinistar: XIII was already here once before. Don't expect it's coming back any time soon, so probably best to leave off the list.
Yeah I know (I'm so lucky to have it) but unrelated to its previous presence on GOG: it is based on a non-gaming license which is exactly what this list is supposed not to include. ^^
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