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Klumpen0815: BTW: Why do I not hear anything about a similar "sexual assault of infidel women"-flashmob in Berlin? Hasn't there been something of this kind or is this information still suppressed too?
I know that the immigrants got distributed according to the population density and Berlin was mostly spared, but I still do wonder.
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Matruchus: Berlin was a warzone as much as it looks now. This censorship will only make AFD, NPD and Pegida grow exponentionally.

Thank god for youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlpdD7wIYaw
Worse than usual but I don't see any rape-mob yet.
Post edited January 11, 2016 by Klumpen0815
since we are talking so much about media/censorship and surpressing of information
just ran into this doku on television

Wir werden nicht gefragt ("We are not being asked") (but german only :()
which takes a at look the problems that local communities have with the huge influx of refugees. It openly talks about increased crime rates, thefts and burglaries. And about the increased uneasiness among the residents. The fear of leaving the wife alone at home, fear of letting the daughter walk alone at night, ...
And about the "big politics" ignoring complaints and worries of the locals.
It doesn't really go much deeper into analyzing the problems, issues, etc. It's more just a look at the "state of things".
But I thought Klumpen0815 would probably nod to a few of these things :)

plot twist:
this was produced by a public television broadcaster (NDR) and ran on the state-owned public tv channels.

While there certainly is a lot to be criticized in the german media landscape, the amount of complaints and conspiracy theories about censorship are exaggerated a lot, i think. The fact that we have a few big mainstream media families which have a huge influence on the public debate makes it easy to overlook the diversity of informations/opinions which definitly exists.
Post edited January 11, 2016 by immi101
Just a reminder

The people responsible for this mess will surely try to use it to their advantage any way they can, so:
Do not let yourselves be distracted from TTIP!
An interesting post on Facebook by a Köln policeman about his work:

https://www.facebook.com/NickHeinMMA/photos/a.362016187218061.86049.164793013607047/962042023882138/?type=3
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catpower1980: An interesting post on Facebook by a Köln policeman about his work:

https://www.facebook.com/NickHeinMMA/photos/a.362016187218061.86049.164793013607047/962042023882138/?type=3
Interesting indeed. I didn't know, that offenses that are punishable by imprisonment under 3 years are not influencing the asylum procedure according to Article 53 of the Residence Act. This explains a lot of stuff in my area too. We got a huge amount of North Africans seeking "asylum" that are selling drugs and thieving all the time and I have to pass them every day on the way to work and they always approach me and everyone else. Sometimes some of them get arrested, but the same guys are trying to sell me drugs shortly afterwards again. They often came into our workshop and just grabbed stuff too until we enforced the locks and organized us in a way, that there's always someone present. Police doesn't seem to be able to do anything long term with such laws.
Post edited January 12, 2016 by Klumpen0815
according to today news,[url=http://www.merkur.de/politik/gruene-fordern-budget-ueberschuss-fluechtlinge-verwenden-zr-5387142.htmlgermany found out budget surplus 21 billions (milliards) euros] germany found out budget surplus 21 billions (milliards) euros[/url]. im almost glad we can just dream about budget surplus in czech republic when i read that it is decided to be used for illegal immigrants.

what about young families support, building of affordable flats, supporting birth rate in general when popullation is getting old? who is actually priority for germany government?

sending the money to me to burn them off by slot machines would be still more useful than this nonsense just supporting new waves of immigration.

dear germans, please, just take that stinky Macrel or what and throw her from a window.

mein gott !
Post edited January 14, 2016 by flanner
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flanner: ...who is actually priority for germany government?
Not who. The actual question should be: What is the priority of the German government?
The answer is: Economic growth.
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flanner: ...who is actually priority for germany government?
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viperfdl: Not who. The actual question should be: What is the priority of the German government?
The answer is: Economic growth.
by attracting new illegals? good one! :-)
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viperfdl: Not who. The actual question should be: What is the priority of the German government?
The answer is: Economic growth.
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flanner: by attracting new illegals? good one! :-)
Immigrants are also cheap workers.
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flanner: ...who is actually priority for germany government?
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viperfdl: Not who. The actual question should be: What is the priority of the German government?
The answer is: Economic growth.
That's obvious. German statistics did show they will need around 20 million new workers when they reach the point that the baby boom generation will retire. Hence they (the government) imported Syrians and probably will import a lot more later. On the other side Germany has 6 million unemployed if you take away governments latest statistical tricks that lowered unemployment down to 2 million.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by Matruchus
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flanner: by attracting new illegals? good one! :-)
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viperfdl: Immigrants are also cheap workers.
where? how to induce them to work? by forced closing them into agricultural work camps?:) i mean illegals are more interested in being on welfare. they dont know even language and germany has too advanced industry.
i saw that workes on the video just working with pyrotechnics and reportedly also other other things.)
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viperfdl: Immigrants are also cheap workers.
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flanner: where? how to induce them to work? by forced closing them into agricultural work camps?:) i mean illegals are more interested in being on welfare. they dont know even language and germany has too advanced industry.
i saw that workes on the video just working with pyrotechnics and reportedly also other other things.)
There are perhaps benefits for some of this situation and the events that happened and we will see how it develops further:

Economic growth, sure.

Legislation for deployment and use of the German military ("Bundeswehr") on national territory.

Legislation for the expansion of the surveillance apparatus (INDECT) and censorship of free speech.

Further deconstruction of social services, pensions etc.

Prevent people from looking at or analyzing the upper levels and providing problems/danger on eye level(divide and
conquer. I guess the occupy movement was a wake up call).

Watering down of the national consciousness to make the EU the only supranational government and former national states will be downgraded to federal states.

In my opinion states and their policies do not think only one day ahead, their plans are aimed more at decades. This is the only way I can explain for myself that decisions are made which make no sense at all; several EU laws and paragraphs of the German Grundgesetz were broken to let the migrants flow into the EU/Germany like that.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by MaGo72
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flanner: where? how to induce them to work? by forced closing them into agricultural work camps?:) i mean illegals are more interested in being on welfare. they dont know even language and germany has too advanced industry.
i saw that workes on the video just working with pyrotechnics and reportedly also other other things.)
First: Let us stop calling them illegals. They are immigrants or refugees. Do some of them don't have legal papers? Certainly but not necessarily the majority.
Second: They are not all uneducated. Some of them have an academic degree. Some were physicians, lawyers or had other jobs requiring higher education.
That immigrants are only interested in welfare and doesn't want to work, is rather a myth than a fact.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by viperfdl
Send your girls to learn a martial art. Self defense can be applied on sexual assault. Preferably one with weapons usage.

Hell, even my 2012 ex went and learned Kick-Boxing (she is half German half Greek, short and fat).

Law is lenient on girls, too.

Problem solved.

(since immigration not only isn't going to stop, but rather, even amplified)

I can't help but wonder, though, just WHERE are all those FEMINIST groups when they are actually NEEDED? I neither saw nor heard any ruckus, just some protests in nude, which were in most probability provocative towards the scum and filth, rather than repelling.
Post edited January 13, 2016 by KiNgBrAdLeY7
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KiNgBrAdLeY7: Send your girls to learn a martial art. Self defense can be applied on sexual assault. Preferably one with weapons usage.

Hell, even my 2012 ex went and learned Kick-Boxing (she is half German half Greek, short and fat).

Law is lenient on girls, too.

Problem solved.

(since immigration not only isn't going to stop, but rather, even amplified)
And then? Fight 10-30 men surrounding you? One point why those events are called "new" is that it is not the guy who jumps out of a bush or sexual assaults you in a bar, on your way home. These are groups of 10 and more people targeting a victim together.

The danger of cultural relativism an interesting viewpoint:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2Eb6OigpVM
Post edited January 13, 2016 by MaGo72