Does who I put on the list really matter? No, but I will say that the three people I listed earlier as my top suspects for scum were on the list and one of them should be dead now but somehow my action was stopped.



You are correct, that was very poor thinking on my part.

I feel like you do this type of misread deliberately to stir the plot. I never defended her choice to claim - you may recall I was the one trying to get her to stop sharing details. In the post you're responding to I merely defended her choice of the rez itself, which you also had criticized in #1171.

Frankly, I think Kryp had you read right the first time. You just backed off while he was alive and kicking. I also think you're nervous about a claim because there's no info on any investigative roles on the table. Which makes it hard for you, and more importantly whichever scum is staying well-hidden to know which lie to play, doesn't it? You're clearly the bishop, and not the King.

I think your post is also asking for an investigator claim precisely because you'd like to know who to NK in Night 3 for the win. While normally 1 scum for 1 town is a good trade for town, in this case it's arguably a better play for scum. Tease just enough to draw it out is a great play.

And in answer to yog's question, I think Sage's play was that she hoped her role claim would make her a target. The flaw is that the reveal hinted there was some chance it was a 1-shot ability. If she's vanilla, there's no need to target her. Just like now there's no need for scum to target Trent, if he's telling truth.

Thus why I was trying to shut down questions about her role - there was still at least SOME ambiguity that she might have more in the tank. In day 2, the choice to claim itself could be questioned, sure. But I think RW here is stirring the pot trying to get town bickering at Sage and Trent screwing up the town's chances, and not for town's benefit.

Or alternatively, perhaps she was multi-shot, and was hoping the doctor would cover her. If she is multi-shot, the question is does she bring JMich back, or save it til tomorrow?

Eh, screw it. Vote RWarehall.

Yogs. You had me fooled. If Flub is being truthful then you must go.

vote yogsloth

Ha! I almost totally had that figured out. I figured you were compulsive and had an RNG element.

I'm sorry. My head just blew up.

Figure thisout? No. Nope. Just not tonight. Because I don't have trent leaning Scum, and I don't know that I can swallow this whole, and I just can't put all this together tonight. What kind of friggin game is this?

(pre-post edit) Really Sage? Good god. Good friggin god.

Well, maybe that broke the game open. I'm now pretty convinced Bler is also scum and he is now trying to redirect.
The problem I'm now having is this...so town has an arsonist with a night kill who can't be killed until his friend goes away....
There are enough hints having a list of three with one anti-town that the only way this game could possibly be balanced is 5 scum. So are we now sitting 4 scum and 4 town?

Flub, is it possible that more than one on your list can be anti-town? Or is it just one? Is it clear? Makes quite a difference...

I don't know which of you (trent/yog) it is, but I will say, Trent's choice to claim makes a whooole lot of sense if he is scum. Easy explanation for why he'd never be looked at for an NK. He's harmless!

You really see trentonlf as town??


This post at the very beginning of Day.

Why would the over reacting be the reason for most people to bump you to the top??

We have to lynch scum everyday.

So scummy, so very scummy.

There was no attempt to redirect. I was writing a long post and didn't refresh before posting.

Ah hell...
Trent is just too good a player to quick hammer. And frankly, his "slip" that he has no useful role left after roleclaiming his "random" vig kill (after we've already had one Town vigilante with a 1 in 3 chance AND an Arsonist with protection.)

I don't buy that we actually had that many vigilantes....and I'm starting to not buy his "I'm now Vanilla"...

I hope I'm not wrong...
Vote Trent

I was waiting for the 10 minute timer.

I was told one name is guaranteed to be. Vitek deftly refused to elaborate further.

I am Town Madbomber. I used my one shot last night because I thought today I would be the lynch target and wanted to hopefully give town a chance with my power. I had to list half the remaining players alive and one was chosen at random to be the target. I now see why my target was not killed. You were the random target.

When you first posted your claim I thought you were lying through your teeth to get me or yogs lynched, but the facts speak otherwise.
1. JMich was Town and the bodyguard for the arsonist. Town would not protect scum or an anti town player so the arsonist has to be town.
2. I used my ability to plant a bomb and kill a random player, but it was somehow stopped. Since JMich did protect the arsonist he stopped the bomb.

I believe this is a game of reversed roles. An arsonist is typically a scum role yet a town player is an arsonist. A firefighter is typically a town role, yet a scum had it. A nexus it a strong scum role and a weak town role, yet a town player had it. I am the Town Madbomber, and a bomber is usually a scum role.

If you are telling the truth about who you were given as possible scum then yogs is who you should be looking at, and I will say that yogs had me 100% fooled. Unless someone can prove to me you are lying then I will be voting for yogs today. If you truly want this awesome town to win and have town's true interest at heart you will see that I am not lying.

Ask me anything, This town is awesome and I will do anything to protect it.

Vote yogsloth

At risk of making RW's head explode, I'm going to partial claim. I might have played this differently had I seen Flub's reveal before I posted my response to RW, but c'est la vie. FWIW, I did really find the particulars of his post scummy, but then I already knew something about him.

I have an investigative role as well.

My flavor is executive council people love me even though I can't tell them everything I know and that disappoints them, and I will do anything to help town - how that directly relates to my role, as noted before, I don't know.

There was a Night 0, so I've had three runs. I'm not sure who else, if anyone would have had an action that night, but I did. And it's possible it took so long because Vitek asked me what I wanted my N0 action to be. And, I swear this is true, I didn't quite understand it. I even contacted him in the middle of D1 thinking I might be able to change my action from N0 to a different target because I thought I had a day action. So I am probably to blame for the multi-hour delay before day 1 started.

I have some info on 3 players, and rw is one, and the info I have suggests he is scum. The info I have on the other 2 players showed town, but I'll keep that to my chest for now. I'm also preferring to remain vague on exactly what my role is for 2 reasons:

1) I don't want RW to know precisely what his 'out' is, and
2) I don't want remaining scum to know whether flub is more dangerous than I or vice versa.

Since yog/trent is 50/50, my suggestion would be to wagon RW at least to claim. Scum have to decide whether to target flub or I tonight and one of us has a good shot at sorting out which of the two is which.

I don't understand.

Perhaps if you laid it on a little thicker I might figure out what it is you intend to communicate.

Alright; do Erector sets eat their young??