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GamezRanker: musing: hmm...just checked as I was curious, and it seems the correct term is likely near--monopoly and/or oligopoly.

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amok: it might be just me that's weird, but I at least try to find out if the things I say is correct, if not then I dont post it
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GamezRanker: Bruh, this is a rinky-dink internet forum.....i'm not doing major edits for Wikipedia :|
I know, and it also the main reason why I never take your seriously *shrug*

well, that was more fun that endless cycles of monopoly.
Post edited February 12, 2024 by amok
It seems that some developers have indeed left GOG, but...

... a few have shown up again after an absence.

There are a lot of variables... and... we don't know what's going on (or not) in contract negotiations.

With Sony continuing to support GOG releases (something that was until recently thought to be dead), publishers like Microprose returning (although not all of their new games)... and... GOG job postings seeming to illustrate a renewed interest in cultivating relationships and retaining publishers and devs...

... I don't think there's much that can be said other than "wait and see."
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amok: well, that was more fun that endless cycles of monopoly.
You could have ended it at the beginning by posting some sources that backed up what you claimed.

For the record, I doubt you'd find a single un1versity law school that would support your assertion.
Terror of Hemasaurus dev isn't going to bring the game back to GOG after they apparently were left without publisher.

Not reason was given to me just this:
"I won't be able to sell the game there, but I am looking into whether deploying an update is still possible."

Hope they manage to find a way to update for the people who already have the game.

So we lost another dev.
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amok: well, that was more fun that endless cycles of monopoly.
If we're playing, I call dibs on the shoe
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amok: well, that was more fun that endless cycles of monopoly.
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GamezRanker: If we're playing, I call dibs on the shoe
Car for me.
I will only say this once (twice if you read it out loud), any game developer whether big or small is obligated to maintain their game on GOG for as long as their game is on GOG. They cannot choose to not keep patches updated or that is a breach of contract and very bad manners.

Developers, do you know how to get patches to GOG? Put them on a CD-R or DVD-R and mail it via by FEDEX. You're welcome.

End of line.
Post edited February 17, 2024 by u2jedi
GOG should take a look at how steam works. At this point it is proven that customers who already have a library of games on a store, are more likely to purchase more than if they don’t. For a start bundles for steam games are everywhere, while for GOG practically none. Players buy bundles and grow their libraries. This is allowed because Valve lets developers generate keys to sell/giveaway outside the steam store. Valve doesn't earn commission from this, but it is obvious that brings massive amounts of players to their platform who eventually purchase more (even if for DLCs). This is somewhat similar to what Epic Games has been doing with their store to attract new players, by offering games of high value since nobody would buy bundles for their store anyway. Why is GOG not letting developers generate keys for bundles/curators/etc? They could try it out and see how it goes. There is a very good reason why Steam continues to allow this practice, as they understand they cultivate an ecosystem, which is something that unfortunately GOG doesn’t have. Just look at the amount of sites related to steam. GOG is a small fish in this ocean by choice.
Also, at this point GOG should already be selling ROMs. It shouldn’t be too difficult given they already have the contacts.

Most gamers stay on Steam because they offer a much better experience. Apart from the DRM, the store is more polished, community hub is miles better (even without a wishlist), review system more capable, etc. I wish they would invest more on the community front. Forums should have been revamped long time ago. How about letting users create groups for particular interests? Or letting users create lists to showcase their favourite games? GOG must take care of this to keep the gamers coming back of course.

I absolutely agree with others that games must be updated here the same as they are on Steam, or any other platform. GOG must enforce this by for example, immediately putting a lock on the publisher account losing the right to publish more games, until they update the current ones. Gamers are obviously going to get mad and refund the games, or worse abandon the store entirely. Things like this shouldn’t happen, it is a shame. A system to track this is simple by relying on user feedback. As soon as they get a sufficient amount of alerts for an outdated build from users, a warning should be put on the game's page. As long as GOG has support from important 'houses' like Sony, Bethesda and even Disney, they can and should enforce these things.

Finally, I value DRM free a lot that I will always purchase games here, but not as much as I'd like to.
Post edited May 28, 2024 by Akylen
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Akylen: I absolutely agree with others that games must be updated here the same as they are on Steam, or any other platform. GOG must enforce this by for example, immediately putting a lock on the publisher account losing the right to publish more games, until they update the current ones. Gamers are obviously going to get mad and refund the games, or worse abandon the store entirely. Things like this shouldn’t happen, it is a shame. A system to track this is simple by relying on user feedback. As soon as they get a sufficient amount of alerts for an outdated build from users, a warning should be put on the game's page. As long as GOG has support from important 'houses' like Sony, Bethesda and even Disney, they can and should enforce these things.

Finally, I value DRM free a lot that I will always purchase games here, but not as much as I'd like to.
GOG does have the a reseller program, was launched with a little fanfare when the ToS was updated for it, a bunch of GOG titles ending up sold on HB... And that's pretty much where it died, it would seem. And the partnership with Epic seems to have been one-sided, Galaxy being usable to purchase from Epic (or so it was said? since I wouldn't touch the thing, I wouldn't know personally) but don't think the reverse is true. So there's a question of what interest exists for the sale of GOG keys.

User created lists... You mean like the GOGmixes they axed?

And I wouldn't exactly say that GOG has the support of the major publishers. Seems more like they're tolerated, can squeeze a few old releases out of them if they plead and beg enough. And then you have the publishers who do release their titles here even day one but are in fact among the worst culprits of second class treatment, THQ Nordic being first to mind.
Now, I'm all for first withholding payments and if the situation stretches on too long or keeps repeating removing the games that don't have relevant update or actual game content parity, but then you'll have all those who say that having more games here is what matters most cry out...
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Akylen: As soon as they get a sufficient amount of alerts for an outdated build from users, a warning should be put on the game's page. As long as GOG has support from important 'houses' like Sony, Bethesda and even Disney, they can and should enforce these things.
Right, Bethesda, the very same publisher that has left "The Evil Within" with a bad, outdated, second-class citizen version on GOG (and Steam too) for years, and the fixed, good, up-to-date version is a Game Pass Exclusive.

So if GOG were to have implemented the same advice you are advocating for in that quoted post, then there would be no Skyrim and also no Fallout 4 on GOG, nor any additional Bethesda games ever added to GOG in the future, either.

I wouldn't have a problem with any of that, but a lot of GOG customers would.

Your post is contradicting itself by saying it's good for GOG to have Bethesda's support so that it doesn't need the support of publishers that leave their games un-updated, even though Bethesda is itself violating the very same principle that you are supposedly advocating for.
Post edited May 28, 2024 by Ancient-Red-Dragon
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Akylen: As soon as they get a sufficient amount of alerts for an outdated build from users, a warning should be put on the game's page. As long as GOG has support from important 'houses' like Sony, Bethesda and even Disney, they can and should enforce these things.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Right, Bethesda, the very same publisher that has left "The Evil Within" with a bad, outdated, second-class citizen version on GOG (and Steam too) for years, and the fixed, good, up-to-date version is a Game Pass Exclusive.

So if GOG were to have implemented the same advice you are advocating for in that quoted post, then there would be no Skyrim and also no Fallout 4 on GOG, nor any additional Bethesda games ever added to GOG in the future, either.

I wouldn't have a problem with any of that, but a lot of GOG customers would.

Your post is contradicting itself by saying it's good for GOG to have Bethesda's support so that it doesn't need the support of publishers that leave their games un-updated, even though Bethesda is itself violating the very same principle that you are supposedly advocating for.
Fair enough. I wasn't aware of it! I stand by what I suggested, as in there shouldn't be any exceptions to the rule. Your game is out of date, there will be consequences whoever it is. Don't think pulling the game from the store is the right solution at all, but having warnings on the game's page not only shames them but keeps them in check. Along with stopping the rights to publish more, until it is resolved. The solution doesn't have to be perfect, but it needs to start from somewhere. Otherwise the problem will continue to perpetuate as it has so far.
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I was hoping for Selaco to come to GOG, only to read from the developer that he too has been ghosted by GOG, along with other developers, as he said. It's the most bizarre thing. It's not the first game that would have been a great fit for GOG. And we're not even talking about technical issues such as manual approval of updates etc. I want to know what the hell GOG management is doing. For any fan that has spoken out in favor of GOG, it feels like a stab in the back. It doesn't make financial sense, it lets down the fans, and it is a disservice to the mission of DRM-free games.
Post edited June 05, 2024 by brazzjazz
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brazzjazz: I was hoping for Selaco to come to GOG, only to read from the developer that he too has been ghosted by GOG, along with other developers, as he said. It's the most bizarre thing. It's not the first game that would have been a great fit for GOG. And we're not even talking about technical issues such as manual approval of updates etc. I want to know what the hell GOG management is doing. For any fan that has spoken out in favor of GOG, it feels like a stab in the back. It doesn't make financial sense, it lets down the fans, and it is a disservice to the mission of DRM-free games.
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me, I have been hanging out for Selaco.

There are so many people on this website that need to be fired.
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brazzjazz: I was hoping for Selaco to come to GOG, only to read from the developer that he too has been ghosted by GOG, along with other developers, as he said. It's the most bizarre thing. It's not the first game that would have been a great fit for GOG. And we're not even talking about technical issues such as manual approval of updates etc. I want to know what the hell GOG management is doing. For any fan that has spoken out in favor of GOG, it feels like a stab in the back. It doesn't make financial sense, it lets down the fans, and it is a disservice to the mission of DRM-free games.
This cannot be real. We get all the porn trash about masturbating mushrooms and they just drop Selaco? What in the actual, interactive f...
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brazzjazz: I was hoping for Selaco to come to GOG, only to read from the developer that he too has been ghosted by GOG, along with other developers, as he said. It's the most bizarre thing. It's not the first game that would have been a great fit for GOG. And we're not even talking about technical issues such as manual approval of updates etc. I want to know what the hell GOG management is doing. For any fan that has spoken out in favor of GOG, it feels like a stab in the back. It doesn't make financial sense, it lets down the fans, and it is a disservice to the mission of DRM-free games.
You probably read that old outdated thread, the devs have said as recently as 3 days ago that it's coming to GOG when EA is done:
https://twitter.com/SelacoGame/status/1797414491413442817