£60 ?
How about £12 ?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Witcher-3-PS4-game-Including-Soundtrack-CD/113239177044?epid=210663991&hash=item1a5d94b754%3Ag%3ADnEAAOSw8W1bgKwZ&LH_BIN=1

I never said buy it NEW, I said buy the PS4 pre-owned, so also why not get the game pre-owned ?
All the games I listed, I bought pre-owned, for less than a tenner each. NOT £30 - £60, stop posting shite.
Buying a GTX 1050 gfx card, when the PC in question is the problem, is just silly.

I'd recommend saving up & building a new system, it's not difficult to build your own PC - just don't rush it & follow the instructions and you'll be fine :) Also there are lots of guides out there that can help.

Here's what I'd suggest:

CPU:
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G (4 cores, 4 threads) £90.98: https://www.ebuyer.com/824255-amd-ryzen-3-2200g-processor-yd2200c5fbbox
AMD Ryzen 5 2400G (4 cores, 8 threads, better iGPU) £134.97: https://www.ebuyer.com/824253-amd-ryzen-5-2400g-processor-yd2400c5fbbox

IMO you should get a Ryzen based system because you'll be able to upgrade it later, as the AM4 socket will be supported for at least another couple of years. Also the stock coolers provided with AMD's CPUs aren't terrible so you can save money there as well. It looks like the integrated GPUs that these two have is roughly comparable to a GT 1030 & The Witcher 3 should be just about playable on low settings at least.

Mobo:
ASRock B450M Pro4 £77.34: https://www.ebuyer.com/854881-asrock-b450m-pro4-am4-ddr4-matx-motherboard-b450m-pro4
Avoid the B320 boards. B450 is ok for a mid range system, allowing for some overclocking (if you want to try that) and will offer more flexibility for upgrading later (though I wouldn't trust them for the R7 CPUs).

RAM:
HyperX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4-2666 CL15 RAM £84.93: https://www.ebuyer.com/720287-hyperx-hx426c15fbk2-8-8gb-2x4gb-2666mhz-1-2v-memory-hx426c15fbk2-8
I'd recommend something better (and getting more than 8GB), but unfortunately RAM prices are still pretty fucked at the moment :/

SSD:
WD Green 240GB M.2 SATA SSD £39.48: https://www.ebuyer.com/821723-wd-green-240gb-m-2-internal-ssd-wds240g2g0b
It's cheap, basic and low capacity but should suffice to start with. Can get a HDD for more storage later, and/or upgrade to a better SSD.

PSU:
EVGA 750 BQ (£70.49): https://www.ebuyer.com/756500-evga-750-bq-power-supply-110-bq-0750-v3
Not the cheapest but PSUs are something you should NEVER cheap out on; a crap PSU can possibly take the rest of the system with it when it blows. https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4kdcgb/when_im_installing_a_cheapass_psu/
It's also a lot more powerful than you will need at first *but* it won't need replacing when you get a good discrete GPU later.

Case:
AvP Viper Mini Tower £19.97: https://www.ebuyer.com/725442-avp-viper-mini-tower-black-usb-3-0-case-cas-744
It's dirt cheap so I wouldn't expect much from it but it looks like it should be adequate.

Total: £383.19 (R3 2200G) / £427.18 (R5 2400G). Might be able to get things a bit cheaper if you shop around. Also this does not include a Windows license - you'll have to find a cheap one somewhere if you don't already have one.

Later on when you can afford to do so you can simply add a better graphics card and a more powerful CPU without needing to replace other parts.

You can always try, there's no harm in that... but I doubt your PSU can handle a GTX 680 at full load (300+ W).
I assume your PSU is part of some brand pre-made system - they're usually intended to sustain the system they came in.

I know, a decent PSU is expensive, but it will last many years and can handle all (future) graphics cards.

Alright, I was very wrong and showed my total ignorance of things console related. I stand corrected and apologise, so sorry.
It says micro ATX only and those motherboards tend to cost more, at least where I do my shopping, plus you have less to choose from and most cases accepting full ATX also can take micro ATX.

Many shops selling parts also put them together for a fee (maybe £50-150).

What grapics card one needs hinges a lot upon what monitor you have, resolution, 3D or not and refresh rate.

The motherboard in my post is micro ATX. To get a full ATX board would cost about £85... a B350 one could be had for around the same price since that chipset is outdated now, but it likely won't work with the chosen CPUs without a BIOS update first which means more hassle if you don't already have an older AM4 CPU to spare.

The case was chosen primarily because it's almost the cheapest available and looks reasonable enough for the price. There are some ATX cases around the same price but they look a bit lacking.

Alright :-) Me I ended up going for an ATX case, despite loving micro ATX , due to generally lower prices and more to choose from. Good if you were thorough when picking it.

That's pretty sad. Me, I'd rather play other games while saving up for something better than play at the lowest settings.

When finances are tight sacrifices have to be made somewhere. It's a hell of a lot better than the Celeron + its integrated graphics anyway. And it can at least be upgraded later by simply adding a decent discrete GPU when the financial situation allows it.

Thanks allot for taking the time to do this.

Do you think this would outperform the current system with a 1030 or 1050? If I added a GTX 680x to that system would it give it a significant boost or is the processor performing at a higher level than the card?

Also isn't that PSU only necessary if I don't intend to overclock and add a heavyweight card? If I went for a 1060, it states: Minimum System Power Requirement (W)
400 W

What if I went for one requiring 550W? What could I get away with?

Also if you could add any Linux links that would be useful. I'd imagine using Linux or Win 7 that my Dad should still have access to. I can't use Windows 10 as a business program I run won't run in it and my dad's currently using . Would Windows 7 or Linux bottleneck graphics card drivers?

Sorry for the newbie questions and thank you

as someone with a GTX 1050Ti, my answer is: yes, it can run Witcher 3, but expect to make a few compromises on the graphical side of things

I have an i5 6500 with 16 gigs of DDR4 2133hz RAM, using Geforce Experience optimised settings, it averages around 60-50 fps for most part on 1080 resolution, though it drops during heavy combat scenes.

The suggested system would be a big improvement - Celerons are very weak. Adding a 680 would give it a boost, as the integrated GPUs on the 2200G/2400G are roughly comparable to a 1030 while the 680 is more comparable to a 1050.

If you don't plan on upgrading to a much more powerful GPU then perhaps get this one instead:

Cooler Master MasterWatt Lite 600 V2 £41.62: https://www.ebuyer.com/828326-cooler-master-masterwatt-lite-600-v2-psu-mpx-6001-acabw-ks

This should be plenty, and it's not worth going for anything lower power as they aren't significantly cheaper. It's not modular though so there'll be a bunch of extra cables that will need to be stashed somewhere inside the case.

Well there's the Linux Mint beginner's guide I wrote: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_try_linux_repostrewrite
Also the Wine wrappers I've made for various games: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/adamhms_linux_wine_wrappers_news_faq_discussion

Windows 7 would be a no-go because it doesn't support newer CPUs. It is possible to get it running & updating despite Microsoft trying to block updates on those systems, but even then there'd be lots of problems due to lack of driver availability for things like the motherboard chipset etc. so it's not worth it.

If you're planning on running Linux then the integrated GPUs on the 2200G/2400G may not be a good idea right now as the Linux drivers for those aren't quite up to scratch yet - in that case, unless you're going to be waiting a while before buying then it would be best to use a discrete GPU (and maybe get a better CPU).

You should use this online PSU calculator to find out what wattage your system will draw, and apparently the GTX 680 is quite power hungry. According to these charts the same GTX 680 is between the GTX 1050 and GTX 1050 Ti, in terms of performance.

Here is a link with power requirements for graphics cards.

Regarding the PSU, I would recommend a 650W one from SeaSonic or Super Flower. EVGA are usually good too, when made by SeaSonic or Super Flower. I wouldn't get one made by HEC, CWT, FSP, Andyson, ATNG or other lesser OEM manufacturers.

The same thing is true for other popular PSU brands, like Corsair, Cooler Master, be quiet!, Fractal Design, Thermaltake, NZXT, which actually use rebranded PSUs made by the aforementioned OEM manufacturers. So be sure to check on this site the model you intend to purchase, and see who actually made it.

I was thinking about going for a more the powerful Ryzen 1600 and GTX 680 combo (or something similar on the second hand market). Do you think this would be a significant improvement or slight improvement over your suggested system? What PSU would handle that system? Would Linux live with the drivers for my suggested CPU/GPU? What percentage of my game library Steam/GOG could I get to work in Linux? (obviously that's an unknown but roughly on average).

I also have a labeling software for my business from 1998/1999 that won't run on 64 bit Windows operating systems (it maybe 16 bit I'm not sure). My dad's been struggling to run it on Linux (it works on Windows 7). It seems Linux can't find the fonts the program uses. Any thoughts on that or any forum I could ask about it?

Thanks Again

So a GTX 680 requires a Two 6-pin. I this the: 2x PCIe Connectors (6+2-Pin)?? Will that fit or is it too big? And do I need 1 of those for the Motherboard/CPU? Sorry completely newbie Qs


Thanks for that, a useful tool, I filled it out with the suggested system and 680 and got:

Load Wattage: 528 W
Recommended UPS rating: 1100 VA
Recommended PSU Wattage: 578 W

It also recomended an EVGA 750W

That would be a lot better (the 1600 comes with a better cooler too). Either of the suggested PSUs should be sufficient.

I'd normally agree with ariaspi about trying to get a PSU made by SeaSonic or SuperFlower, however those come at a substantially higher cost. Other PSUs may not be as good, but they should be ok as long as you stick to trustworthy brands that have a lot to lose if they put out garbage.

Still, here's one that likely uses a SuperFlower design according to the site ariaspi linked to:

EVGA 650w B3 PSU 80+ Bronze Fully Modular Power Supply £69.99: https://www.ebuyer.com/791242-evga-650w-b3-psu-80-bronze-fully-modular-power-supply-220-b3-0650-v3

It'll be fine - I use a Ryzen system myself (R7 1700 with a light overclock to 3.7GHz). I'm currently using an AMD graphics card (RX480) but I used to use an Nvidia GPU in my old system. Once Nvidia's proprietary drivers have been installed it should be fine, although prior to that you may need to boot the system in compatibility mode (this is detailed in my Mint guide).

Obviously anything that officially supports Linux should work, likewise for anything supported by my wrappers, ./play.it, Lutris, and Steam's SteamPlay feature (which allows you to install and play Windows-only games using their custom version of Wine).

For other games, you can try setting them up in Wine manually (front-ends like PlayOnLinux and Lutris are very helpful for this). SteamPlay also allows you to try unsupported games to see if they work, but you'll need to enable it.

What exactly happens when you try running it? You could try installing "corefonts" using Winetricks & see if that fixes it.

6+2 pin PCIe connectors can be used as either a 6-pin or 8-pin connector depending on what the graphics card requires. There are separate dedicated power connectors for the motherboard.