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General discussionI'm out of the loop, what has happened to the mods/Linko?(198 posts) (198 posts) 
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Posted October 25, 2018
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toxicTom: So free speech yes. Poo-flinging no.
That's one way to put it :)
Post edited October 25, 2018 by chandra
Posted October 25, 2018
As they say in Colonization: You hear nothing but rumors.
Posted October 25, 2018
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Paradoks: This whole situation is a mess. I just don't understand why every company, in this case GOG, is trying so hard to be witty on the social media.
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toxicTom: I think for many people a harmless and witty joke is still a harmless and witty joke. And a bad joke simply a bad joke... *shrug and forget about it*. To reach these people you make... jokes, witty posts. Hit or miss.

The problem on the internet is that there are too many people lurking and waiting that someone steps on their toes. Some of them deliberately place their toes in your way. And I swear some of them have their toes surgically prolonged.
These people have followers with followers, and while they all in all among the millions of users are a minority, they can rally a few thousand people, very vocal people no less.

I don't get the appeal of it, my best guess is some need for tribalism, an urge to belong to a group and team (like football/soccer fans beating each other up over games played by overpaid mercenaries - which I also don't get).
Fighting for a "good cause" like getting rid of transphobia, racism or any structural disadvantage of a group of people is in itself honourable. But this seems to spin out of control all too often, which is very visible especially with feminism - with the big issues resolved at least in the west, more justification is needed and misogyny and patriarchy are suddenly found in the smallest things and instead of talking about it and trying to resolve the issues there's only the call for arms... makes you feel like a real Suffragette I guess.

So while most people probably shrug or smile, depending on the wittiness or fail of some post, there will alway be some one finding a hair your soup. The only options are: serve no soup (become boring matter-of-fact) or continue and "let haters hate".

In past, more sensible times, if you seriously offended someone by accident, they would speak up and you would apologise with "I didn't mean to offend, my bad." and either "I didn't know" or "Sorry, I didn't think". Everyone makes a mistake sometimes, and people used to know and accept this, also with others.
Today, especially in social media, there's always someone offended, it's indeterminable if there's a real issue or just "the usual shitstorm". And you don't get a chance to apologise for real, because the punishment is always immediate public execution.
IMO this is the best way to ruin everybody's life, I would prefer to have all people work together for making the world a better place for everyone. But this would have to start with actually talking and listening to each other.
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kohlrak: You can't suggest you're for free speech while simultaneously prohibiting it. When threads are civil, or at least regained civility after a period of hellfire, locking comes off as feeding the flames, as well.
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toxicTom: While the last sentence is not wrong, I can't on the whole agree with you. What Konrad wants is:

I just wish we could discuss all sorts of stuff here and be excellent to each other.
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toxicTom: The problem is, once the poo-flinging has started in a thread, it tends to return even after brief periods of civility (when the poo-flingers are in the restrooms...). So I get it that locking those thread is - as undesirable as it is - sometimes the better way.

So free speech yes. Poo-flinging no.
So perhaps, a solution for the creation of more toilets is indeed desperately needed.
Posted October 25, 2018
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kohlrak: You can't suggest you're for free speech while simultaneously prohibiting it. When threads are civil, or at least regained civility after a period of hellfire, locking comes off as feeding the flames, as well. If you honestly want free speech with civility, target users without civility, not topics.
I do agree with you on this hence my personal dislike for nuking threads. It doesn't promote open or civil conversation, it just shuts everything down.

But that's also why forums such as these (but certainly not just these) are not really a reliable platform for exercising your free speech, as frustrating as that can be sometimes. When it comes to companies, platforms, or what have you, setting boundaries – it's just pragmatic, and I might even argue that it's the fair thing to do.

After all, free speech is a big deal, I don't know that any private entity out there is truly equipped to properly handle that kind of responsibility.
Post edited October 25, 2018 by Konrad
Posted October 25, 2018
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Vingry: ...
Sorry if I bother you with a totally off-topic thing, but... what is your profile picture?
I think I have already seen it but I cannot remember where no matter how hard I try. It's unnerving! XD
Posted October 25, 2018
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Vingry: ...
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Enebias: Sorry if I bother you with a totally off-topic thing, but... what is your profile picture?
I think I have already seen it but I cannot remember where no matter how hard I try. It's unnerving! XD
It's the icon for the A.I. in Halo 3: ODST. At least that's what it looks like... :P
Posted October 25, 2018
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Enebias: Sorry if I bother you with a totally off-topic thing, but... what is your profile picture?
I think I have already seen it but I cannot remember where no matter how hard I try. It's unnerving! XD
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Awolnation: It's the icon for the A.I. in Halo 3: ODST. At least that's what it looks like... :P
Yes, of course! Thank you! It was eating me! XD
Posted October 25, 2018
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Enebias: Sorry if I bother you with a totally off-topic thing, but... what is your profile picture?
I think I have already seen it but I cannot remember where no matter how hard I try. It's unnerving! XD
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Awolnation: It's the icon for the A.I. in Halo 3: ODST. At least that's what it looks like... :P
I thought it was a stylised Salad Fingers icon.
Posted October 25, 2018
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Konrad: But that's also why forums such as these (but certainly not just these) are not really a reliable platform for exercising your free speech, as frustrating as that can be sometimes. When it comes to companies, platforms, or what have you, setting boundaries – it's just pragmatic, and I might even argue that it's the fair thing to do.

After all, free speech is a big deal, I don't know that any private entity out there is truly equipped to properly handle that kind of responsibility.
I don't understand people who think that their "right of free speech" is being infringed on when forums or media platforms ban them. It's not a person's right to have access to any individual platform to spout whatever they want, regardless of whether what they're saying is right or not. That has nothing to do with free speech or the provisions in various countries constitutional rights documents. That is being banned from using the resources of a private entity, usually based on clearly outlined rules, that you have broken. How is that even unfair, let alone infringing on your rights?

It also is odd that people don't seem to understand that all rights are not absolute. You have a right to free speech, with exceptions. You can't slander another person. That is a limit on that right and it's not an unreasonable one. So why think that you won't have your rights taken away if you abuse them in some way, that's the way rights have always worked.
Posted October 25, 2018
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Konrad: But that's also why forums such as these (but certainly not just these) are not really a reliable platform for exercising your free speech, as frustrating as that can be sometimes. When it comes to companies, platforms, or what have you, setting boundaries – it's just pragmatic, and I might even argue that it's the fair thing to do.

After all, free speech is a big deal, I don't know that any private entity out there is truly equipped to properly handle that kind of responsibility.
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firstpastthepost: I don't understand people who think that their "right of free speech" is being infringed on when forums or media platforms ban them.
They just want to exploit that little "loophole" if they can. :P
Posted October 26, 2018
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Konrad: Trying to...

To be honest, I dislike locking threads and I think this one can do okay with a bit of help. Mostly I just wish we could discuss all sorts of stuff here and be excellent to each other.

If you'd like to do your part and bring balance to the forums, I urge you to refrain from feeding the fire.
Hi Konrad, are you taking over for Linko temporarily? Or permanently? In the first case: thank you for filling the hole. In the latter case: thank you and good luck! ;-)
Posted October 26, 2018
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firstpastthepost: I don't understand people who think that their "right of free speech" is being infringed on when forums or media platforms ban them.
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Plokite_Wolf: They just want to exploit that little "loophole" if they can. :P
exploit more like abusing the system of free speech

free speech can be taken to far and thats the problem people think they can say what every and everything will be fine because of free speech. we live sadly in a society where people will abuse a system to fit there needs and wants. if it gets to hateful or racist i'm in for locking a thread because it grows like a disease which leaves people more violent and angry and it really doesn't help.

but also before locking a thread make sure to read it so you don't lock it out of context.

but also everyone that have old accounts the forums remembers the days before mods actually modded this site, haha steam was way way safer. with flame wars and such going on and the auto create threads built by a bot...
actually we need zeogold that person remembers the dark days of non modding and the report button that didn't report spam
Post edited October 26, 2018 by KnightW0lf
Posted October 26, 2018
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Awolnation: It's the icon for the A.I. in Halo 3: ODST. At least that's what it looks like... :P
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Enebias: Yes, of course! Thank you! It was eating me! XD
Yes, it was indeed the icon for an A.I. in HALO 3: ODST. Recently, one particular OST (The Rookie) from the game has managed to bring me back into the game. At least to a point where I would revisit some of the epic cutscenes that the game has to offer, such as the one in the beginning of the game where you get to witness or immerse yourself in the experience of being dropped thousands of feet above the ground in a pod.
Posted October 26, 2018
I'm out of the loop, who got Rachel get pregnant and when did Monica and Chandler get married?
Posted October 26, 2018
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tinyE: I'm out of the loop, who got Rachel get pregnant
That was me. Sorry.
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