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MarkoH01: It was not the forums fault it was social media. There are still a lot of nice people in this forum and even though some might disagree I still consider the GOG community to be a friendly one.
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viperfdl: I was already rectified yesterday but thanks anyway.
Yeah sorry. I just stumbled over this thread today and of course was posting the moment I read your post and not just after I finished the thread. But at least the part that I still like the community here in general is new ;)
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I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
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tremere110: I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
Doxxing THEM is bad. They are good, all those who don't adhere to their sect are evil.

Do you know what I think? I think resetera should be filed and closed for endorsing hate speech. I'm serious.
They call out a person with -preposterous- accusations of hate speech and then THEY use it, every time.
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fr33kSh0w2012: People have told me years ago that Leftists were "Tolerant"
Used to be. Though it's really progressives, not necessarily leftists and not all leftists, the left/right axis being the economic one. It wasn't that many years ago that stuff like this (attachment) was posted aimed at conservatives. Lately though, it seems it's not even a tie anymore, but rather the other way around. Find it an embarrassment to have to fight for free speech with others claiming to be progressive / socially liberal... and typically face overwhelming opposition and often get called names for even mentioning opposing this new speech police turned on its head.
Then again, if you think about it, it tends to be just one specific direction, the supporters of a certain cause, that these reactions are coming from... A cause I was pointing out even over a decade ago was approached wrongly, downright dangerously and harmfully even for those affected by the problem. Lost a pretty dear friend over it back then, but the way things are developing just seems to prove me right. Of course, those in this new offended crowd see it precisely the other way around.

More on topic, if the hashtag was really used for said cause (hadn't even heard of it before this), knowingly appropriating it for a different purpose, any different purpose, while it's being actively used for its primary one is a pretty rotten move. No more rotten than just about any marketing attempt that exploits a current social context though, and therefore not deserving of something like this. And the previous two "strikes" counted against GOG's social media management quite baffled me. Those were maybe in a small way crudely amusing at most, not worth attention one way or another otherwise.

Either way, I will agree with some messages I saw already posted and say GOG should either stay well away from any hot topics or make a statement and stick with it. Try to make use of a current issue for marketing purposes, then backtrack right away when called on it, then repeat the whole process and second and then a third time just pisses off everyone, whatever side they take on the matter at hand and even plenty who otherwise wouldn't have cared. It's lack of planning, of vision, and mainly of, well, balls. Once it was decided to make a rule of exploiting such issues for marketing, which I'd say the repeated "incidents" prove, GOG should have had the back of their social media manager.
Sure, we don't currently know whether Linko was fired or left, or maybe even took a break (which would be quite appropriate under the circumstances) and maybe a change of username, but the very fact that we don't know sure makes it seem that GOG doesn't have his back and may just be looking for a scapegoat. Not that more evidence was needed after the retractions and repeats...

Probably shouldn't have posted this rant. Whatever...
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MarkoH01: He is not gone yet for sure. I was already thinking about creating a thread just to show him our support and showing GOG that the community wants to have him back in case this is possible.
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blotunga: Well, he doesn't shows up as a user, so I guess he isn't around anymore.
That doesn't mean he's gone. Getting doxxed pretty much means the account he was using has to be nuked. He may have a new one, and would likely keep a low profile indefinitely.

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tremere110: I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
It's GOG's responsibility to make sure it's employees know how to protect themselves. Twitter is an environment where anything you say is going to offend people.
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tremere110: I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
Remember they are also trying to claim it's not doxxing if one can sleuth it from the Internet...ignoring the fact that they have made it very easy for anyone, sleuthing skills or not. Furthermore, to my knowledge, no one knows for sure who actually sent the Tweet. Everyone is guessing, and now to name names so a mob can be sicced on someone is just utterly ridiculous. Where are the articles from Kotaku/Polygon/et al decrying doxxing now? (chirp) What a moral high ground they portray.

One should never get fired for gloating over one's actual death...
"The kindest thing i can say is "I'm glad he's no longer around to keep doing harm" - Jessica Price about Totalbiscuit.
Calling users "rando asshats" and accuse them of "mansplaining"

Worth defending.

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A few undirected Twitter posts that aren't directly offensive at all...off with their head. Demand immediate firing.

The hypocrisy of games "journalism"...
Unfortunately, I think forums in general, and these forums in particular, have become too much of a challenge for any single mod to handle. I believe a team of mods is the way to go in the future, if GOG wants to keep modding the forums, which, of course, is their choice in the end.

I'm all for unleashing the Kraken to be honest, let everyone say what they want when they want, with an automated filtering and banning system in place. People can of course get angry at computers and bits of code too, but code tends to have an immunity to aggression and other human niceties.

If GOG ever gets such a system in place, I humbly request they call it "Officer GOGBear" and endow it with a kawaii-kinderganten-type personality, for example here is how I'd see a typical ban message: "Officer GOGBear is sad that you've posted such naughty cursewords on the forum *insert sad Officer GOGBear artwork here*. You must now wear this BAN hat *insert BAN hat artwork*, sit in the corner of the forum and reflect on your bad behavior for 7 whole days! Officer GOGbear sincerly hopes you'll behave in the future *insert hopeful Officer GOGBear artwork*. Here are some guidelines to help you stay on your best behaviour *insert equally kindergarten-like forum guidelines here*".

Some carefully inserted HTF references, particularly to Flippy, would be nice to have for connoisseurs.
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tremere110: I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
If they give away his personal information can't he just file a lawsuit ? That's what I would do at least because who knows what the crazy people at resetra might do to him
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GOG is tweeting again, just without the "edge", perhaps for the best right now.
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tremere110: I found that Linko's real name is being posted by supposedly reputable internet journalism sites. It's disgusting. They've made it very easy to get personal information on him. While they say they're against harassing him their actions prove otherwise.

I can't believe that they can say doxxing is bad and in the same breath doxx somebody. Seriously, what the hell?!
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alexandros050: If they give away his personal information can't he just file a lawsuit ? That's what I would do at least because who knows what the crazy people at resetra might do to him
Unfortunately, journalists often get away with a lot of unethical crap and defamation. First, there is a lot of legal nuance surrounding "journalism" and "free speech" and then there is the concept that legal disputes can be dragged out forever as ever increasing legal costs which favor big corporations like news conglomerates. It really takes someone with the resources and popularity of Hulk Hogan to have a chance at succeeding.

But I'm not a lawyer and I'm not European. Does make me wonder if there are Directives related to GDPR and privacy that might apply to such a media outing of an employee like this. What the Daily Dot just did is heinously irresponsible and the so-called "alt-right" sources they complained about handled the issue in a far more responsible manner than they did. But of course I doubt there will be a call to fire that author even though her actions were magnitudes worse than that Tweet.
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tfishell: GOG is tweeting again, just without the "edge", perhaps for the best right now.
or forever... it's a store for crying out loud.
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tfishell: GOG is tweeting again, just without the "edge", perhaps for the best right now.
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Pheace: or forever... it's a store for crying out loud.
I enjoyed the edgy tweets, made it feel more real and gave it that humour you sometimes needed.
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Pheace: or forever... it's a store for crying out loud.
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Ragorau: I enjoyed the edgy tweets, made it feel more real and gave it that humour you sometimes needed.
I don't even know what more real means in this context
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tfishell: GOG is tweeting again, just without the "edge", perhaps for the best right now.
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Pheace: or forever... it's a store for crying out loud.
A store can or may or should have some personality, some style. Hence the avalanche of "funny" commercials or "cool" logos that are the bread and butter of marketing. Distinction. Targetted demographics. All that.

In my eyes, gog's style was the slightly crazed, marginal, iconoclast, endearingly amateurish underdog. That said, I don't follow tweeter and all that sort of trash, so I don't know if their "edge" there was inline with that. It's an identity that had formed in my mind during the TET years and the fun videos that went with that. Plus, the general "fuck you, we don't do drm" idea.

But what I'm saying, is that "edgy" (or edgy wannabe) tweets can easily have a reason to be for a shop.
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tfishell: GOG is tweeting again, just without the "edge", perhaps for the best right now.
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Pheace: or forever... it's a store for crying out loud.
so is Wendy's but they got "edgy"