Are you sure its even a dozen?. I dont even know wtf zoom (gaming one)
How much commission do you get for pushing their agenda?

In a way, I don't really care anymore, since most of the stuff coming out these days is dogshit anyway. When I hear some news about "Asscreed XXVII" not working anymore because of Ubi-DRM, my first thought is "Nothing of value was lost" and my second thought is "The dummies who bought this garbage in the first place have only themselves to blame".

samuraigaiden: Well, that Zoom-Platform site (name sucks) looks pretty basic (but simple)... I don't like the focus on social media at all and maybe those all icons are too big and the blue is maybe too saturated in contrast with that very light bar.. but overall that page actually already looks better than GOG (store).. even as that.

I just can't stand looking at GOG page for a very long time (and it's slow as...). I find those all artworks horrible (like.. very.. very horrible) as those very annoying color choices (like some little exotic super-toxic frogs). Except forum - just the color transfer to the "bleak" is really bad, unified darker part of the color would be better. Just not with the black text that is hard to read on some bars.

It really annoys me to look at GOG for a very, very long time - maybe it's also because years of low quality games and their tasteless, shallow, unexperienced (as in life), unoriginal artworks made on iPads always by someone without.. a "touch" - all it seems manufactured. All this without an exception - when the site changes it's usually to just some different kind of worse. It doesn't even resemble anymore a "classic" gaming site or a serious gaming site/business to me. At all. It's to me like something made by a very young pre-school teacher or a dog walker with basic art school that is self-learning graphical design and is "a bit of an activist" in free time and doing that to learn how to make websites for it one day. Maybe it looks like some place for a very specific kinds of low quality fan arts/mobile games and very specific "community" that I wouldn't be ever part of. This looks like site that maybe Itch.io should have.

I tried to look at the main page of GOG and write first 30 "words" that came to my mind without focusing on specific aspects, just what this site "gives" to me:

DeviantArt | Tumblr | soy latte | glasses | iPad | cheap earrings | loose cardigan | Starbucks | ice cream | Spain | US | asian | pixelart | anime | scissoring | indie | sidecroll | read-and-click | ads | vegetarian | lofi | mainstream | lesbian | mobile game | antidepressants | headphones | colors | loud | cat | aggressive

I am not sure, but I think GOG was not giving me these "vibes" when I joined years ago. It was more "classy" and "visible" and "sorted out". I actually think I liked how it looked, but it's so long time since this site was not.. this. It's seemed like a respectful gaming site from the EU (honoring it's name and roots) not dedicated to anyone specific, but to games. Real and classic games. It's like this site even visually lost absolutely all respect it had and went to a thrift shop to the worst and most toxic websites out there to bring it's fanbase here for purposed swap of "audience" (not customers) that actually doesn't care about "good old games" at all.. and doesn't even remember them. I don't even know when I started noticing. Probably around Cyberpunk. Maybe a bit before. No clue...

At least that is what this site "tells" to me. It's quite sad that even some basic site like Zoom-Platform looks already less cheap and annoying (but nothing great too). Just those social platforms are a big turn off. Very big. I guess good quality gaming is dead to me. This was my last place to go. Now just old games and open-source (which is also quite weird now). I actually don't see it that bad at this point, because there is nothing to loose. This well was already dry. I guess real quality gaming is actually dead for years. It's actually good to not fuel whatever it is today (with most of stuff on internet and TV). Maybe it actually itself created hole on a market someone would maybe fill one day. But not if this travesty will be supported.

I think even the site here actually reflects state of the company quite well and it's selfdestructive preferences. I sometimes feel like it's run by brainwashed "teenagers" (or someone behaving like that) on purpose now (so they will listen those that mismanage it on the top) that think it's good while they have absolutely no clue about what they are doing or what most of people are actually like, because they have no real life experiences and are brainwashed by media to think certain way and think they are "the" majority doing that. I believe they are convincted that they do a lot of innovation for a greater good, while they are absolutely alien to most of customers and most of common people.

This company has absolutely no clue what they are doing.

It's just what feels I am getting here, from GOG, their actions and even from the site itself and the horrible "art design" that is completely out of touch... unless you are a kid or think that way (and girl only).

Exactly. I'm not addicted to the shit so why would I want to waste money on it? Most of it isn't worth pirating. And the whole world is going down the shitter. Time to ramble on.

I don't really blame GOG for trying what they did with Galaxy and some other things. As a business they wanted to grow, maybe they thought Galaxy would help attract more customers and AAA publishers. Maybe somebody with actual business experience can fill me in, but the sense I get is that you constantly have to be "moving" and trying new things in the business world, especially to attract new publishers or perhaps even keep them aboard. Do GOG need to just "maintain" for now?; have they hit the glass ceiling for people who care about DRM-free? (I think they should focus on the 2nd Class issue - at least for significant missing updates - and look at new ways to bring in money for "old games on new machines"; I have ideas for the latter but at least one is probably controversial.)

Zoom-Platform seems good, I wish them well and have given them some tips. (A shame it takes so long for them to expand their catalog but I guess that's time needed to ensure compatibility.) May give them more tips in the future, I just try to get them to GOG first, for now. If I was still really into making time for playing games, I'd probably split my library between Zoom and GOG.

If either service dies, at least you'll have your DRM-free games backed up. (Also, I expect various replies, that's fine but just fyi I'm not interested in arguing.)

Gog wont die same for epic and steam

I am not aware of a mod issue though I didn’t try. Can you find the post and I will look into it. I guess it’s more to do with the whole steam workshop thing that is plaguing modding in general across all sites (can’t get the extra content for the quest for instance).

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/zoom_platform/post701

It's unclear to me what exactly is the deal. Cheers.

Who cares what the website looks like, as long as it works? If Steam were ugly, would you refuse to play any of the games there? Zoom could make their website look like Geoshitties or Angelfire and I'd still buy their exclusives.

Yeah i was really wondering why a conference app was somehow superior to GoG, though it can't be any worse than Stadia
Hehe. I had this long rant about that. It went something like:

I don't care what something looks like as long as it does it's job. I don't care about the bells and whistles, i just want it very simple and basic. If it's ugly i'll put a paperbag on it and put it in the corner, although if the price for something that looks better and does the same performance, sure i'd like the better looking product, other than that it can be butt-ugly and i really don't care.

I would think it's easier to find a game on zoom, they only have 425 games. While GOG has over 4k games. Can you stop lying? Zoom sells games that had the same issues on GamersGate. Couple of the game's I bough would not work with out tweaks.

I wonder if underaged rape porns are the lowest they go
Is it even possible to go lower?:O

I thought you were comparing GOG to Steam for a moment there.
Well, GOG only made like 3 million USD last year, they need all the money they can get, even if it's from weebo pedophiles.

DoomSooth: There was much more issues of course, but I completely removed my Steam account (hundreds of games with all DLCs, more than I have here and this is my only/main platform since around that time) when they changed the library some years ago to some "news feed" (ads) to bother me with what developers think or want sell to me while I am browsing "my own" stuff. And it was not just about changelogs. It was horrible.

It was the last straw. So, yeah.. it probably mattered. :D I deleted my account right after they removed/locked threads of people being negative about it. A lot of people.

It's not even so much about the look, but about reasons behind it.. like here.
And also the fact how serious issues something has, while it has a time do "other stuff" nonstop.
Site designs are also connected to data gathering/sharing issues.

Preferences speak volumes. And GOG has lots of time for being political and base their design on it the whole time to make this site look insufferable. Meanwhile, they are breaking the law on so many levels - regarding data/privacy or advertising laws, etc... They are even not able to deal with basic issues like (downvoting) bots (which makes you even more worry about security of this page). They also "don't have a time" to answer to support tickets/e-mails...

I also heard some stuff from people invested into this site much more and longer than I am about how GOG had issues with people building up this thing (for the lowest bid) and they can't access or change (at least easily) a lot about the site/infrastructure here, because of the fight. I know personally about some security issues they have for years and were reported to them. Which is even more alarming regarding data security/privacy. I also heard they have "a problem" to have someone hired (especially dealing with this) at all. They don't hire people out of Poland. But they are able to add stuff like option to have downvoted posts hidden and put it 'on' by default for new users. Makes you think. Whenever the parts I heard from others were true or not. It's a very serious problem in both scenarios.

Preferences (design included) speak volumes about a company. I think people should stop putting up with that all, just because they are a "hostage" to a company. It will not get better without a reason. That is why is DRM-free so important. It's more than just about games, it's also about how companies treat customers and why so many of them will not leave because of that (DRM). So the company can do -> whatever <- they want without a fear. If it goes against paying customers is irrelevant to them, because without the company they don't own anything and loose all their money they 'invested' into it.