Posted August 13, 2015
Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
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Austrobogulator
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From Australia
Posted August 13, 2015
It's not a genre and it's not even a useful label...
The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
snowkatt
Easily Bored
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From Netherlands
Posted August 13, 2015
Austrobogulator: It's not a genre and it's not even a useful label...
The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
uh no it wasnt The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
the witcher 3 was published by
cd projekt
namco bandai
1c company
wb games
and spike chunsoft
does that sound selfpublished to you anywhere except poland ?
the.kuribo
MushnutChestroom
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From Japan
Posted August 13, 2015
Seweryn: So i am wondering another thing, why nowdays when game comes out instead of being classify into one type of game it is classify into 4 or 5 catagories.
Example of this is witcher 3, instead of being named as rpg, it also take place in the adventure, exploration, action ( how the hell this can be a genre even ), rpg ( nowdays all game are rpg nowdays, despite the fact only few of the them really are), indie.
Genres in general are never precise or set in stone. They are malleable, and there is a lot of subjectivity that goes into what constitutes any particular genre. It's an oft-discussed topic in other mediums as well: music, film, literature. Not everything fits into neat little compartments, nor does everyone agree on what something should be classified as... and when some new style or idea starts spawning others to create works with similar traits, new genres can emerge and eventually become new standard genres.Example of this is witcher 3, instead of being named as rpg, it also take place in the adventure, exploration, action ( how the hell this can be a genre even ), rpg ( nowdays all game are rpg nowdays, despite the fact only few of the them really are), indie.
Wishbone
Red herring
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From Denmark
Posted August 13, 2015
Austrobogulator: It's not a genre and it's not even a useful label...
The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
An indie game can be published by a large publisher, no problem. However, in order for it to be indie, it must not be financed by a publisher. The independence involved is financial independence, securing creative freedom for the developer. Once the game is made, if a publisher wants to publish it, that doesn't make it any less "indie".The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
Austrobogulator
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From Australia
Posted August 13, 2015
snowkatt: the witcher 3 was published by
cd projekt
namco bandai
1c company
wb games
and spike chunsoft
does that sound selfpublished to you anywhere except poland ?
Hm, was it published by those companies or just distributed by them? cd projekt
namco bandai
1c company
wb games
and spike chunsoft
does that sound selfpublished to you anywhere except poland ?
Austrobogulator: It's not a genre and it's not even a useful label...
The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
Wishbone: An indie game can be published by a large publisher, no problem. However, in order for it to be indie, it must not be financed by a publisher. The independence involved is financial independence, securing creative freedom for the developer. Once the game is made, if a publisher wants to publish it, that doesn't make it any less "indie". The Witcher 3 is an independent game as it is self-published by CDPR. Journey isn't an independent game; it was published by an enormous multinational company.
Basically, for a lot of people, the term 'indie' is just a go-to term for any game that isn't Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
ET3D
Always a noob
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From Clipperton Island
Posted August 13, 2015
Gengar78: I rather have coffee that tastes like fecal matter, than fecal matter that tastes like coffee :/
Why? If fecal matter tasted like coffee, that would turn the coffee industry on its head. "Honey, I'm just going to shit a cup." And caffeine free too!Seweryn: So i am wondering another thing, why nowdays when game comes out instead of being classify into one type of game it is classify into 4 or 5 catagories.
It's tags, not categories, and it's there because people realised how stupid trying to slot everything into categories is. In general "indie" simply means "low production values" or "not a lot of money put into the game". I agree, it's not a completely useful label.
Post edited August 13, 2015 by ET3D
Catshade
resident feline
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From Indonesia
Posted August 13, 2015
Because it does evokes a certain concept, even if it's fuzzy. Reminds me of 'alternative' genre in music...
THESLITHERYDEE
Abattoir
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From United States
Posted August 13, 2015
Fancy names for common things are just one of the many wonderful ways to annoy someone, and I predict it won't go out of style anytime soon.
dtgreene
vaccines work she/her
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From United States
Posted August 13, 2015
Indie is a game genre because Crimzon Clover and Lords of Xulima are similar games...wait a minute, they're not?
Emob78
jack and coke plz
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From United States
Posted August 13, 2015
Anything indie is great until it becomes self aware. At that point it must be systematically destroyed like fucking Skynet. Otherwise it's nothing but world domination and killer robots... and who wants that coming from the art scene?
nightcraw1er.488
rw
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From United Kingdom
Posted August 13, 2015
Gengar78: I rather have coffee that tastes like fecal matter, than fecal matter that tastes like coffee :/
besides... it's better that kool-aid...
You may want to check what you wish for as most expensive coffees are taken directly from animal fecal matter: besides... it's better that kool-aid...
*Bah* Snowkat posted the link I was going to put here!
Hence why they taste like shit. So *Bucks sells shit and also doesn't give a shit, amazing!
As for indie, never really understood the concept, I just look at each game as its own entity and judge from there (other than R* games, DarkSouls and MMO's which no longer even come near the radar).
Seweryn
New User
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From Antigua and Barbuda
Posted August 15, 2015
If you go to steam, and check category, you will find indie there.
I know the difference between those two ( tags and categories).
Strategy, rpg etc they mean something describe a game in a way, inform us what can we expect from a game, but indie doesn't inform us of anything.
If you call a game AAA, it says it had a huge production budget.
Overall having AAA category would made more sense, since it inform me of thing as good quality of product, at least it should be.
Indie only inform me that it was made by a company that doesn't have big developer behind it,. It doesn't translate into good quality product.
But not all things you mentioned are bad,
remasters are good if done properly. There are tons of games that didn't aged good. I myself i find a lot of game horrible to a point of not playing them because how they look.
that only one semi good thing :P
I do not find myself liking to chat on forums. Not my cup of tea.
I know the difference between those two ( tags and categories).
Strategy, rpg etc they mean something describe a game in a way, inform us what can we expect from a game, but indie doesn't inform us of anything.
If you call a game AAA, it says it had a huge production budget.
Overall having AAA category would made more sense, since it inform me of thing as good quality of product, at least it should be.
Indie only inform me that it was made by a company that doesn't have big developer behind it,. It doesn't translate into good quality product.
snowkatt: it aint
just like anime isnt a genre its just a catch all term to let peopel know what niche it falls undersnowkatt: freemium
dlc whoring
sloppy half baked products
annual sequels
predictable sequels
same games all the time
pre orders
early acces
"remasters
and remakes
thats where the world of gaming is going and already largely is
...''s great innit ?
haha a good one :P just like anime isnt a genre its just a catch all term to let peopel know what niche it falls undersnowkatt: freemium
dlc whoring
sloppy half baked products
annual sequels
predictable sequels
same games all the time
pre orders
early acces
"remasters
and remakes
thats where the world of gaming is going and already largely is
...''s great innit ?
But not all things you mentioned are bad,
remasters are good if done properly. There are tons of games that didn't aged good. I myself i find a lot of game horrible to a point of not playing them because how they look.
that only one semi good thing :P
Sachys: You spent all this time as a GOG user, never posting, only to end up posting in the forum out of frustration after over three and a half years over "indie gaming" not being a genre in your eyes?
Thats a lot of mild rage that could have been better spent!
I post when i have something i want to ask, something to say or just rage. Thats a lot of mild rage that could have been better spent!
I do not find myself liking to chat on forums. Not my cup of tea.
Post edited August 15, 2015 by Seweryn
Sachys
Woodie Guthrie's Guitar!
Sachys Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Dec 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted August 15, 2015
Seweryn: If you go to steam, and check category, you will find indie there.
I know the difference between those two ( tags and categories).
Strategy, rpg etc they mean something describe a game in a way, inform us what can we expect from a game, but indie doesn't inform us of anything.
If you call a game AAA, it says it had a huge production budget.
Overall having AAA category would made more sense, since it inform me of thing as good quality of product, at least it should be.
Indie only inform me that it was made by a company that doesn't have big developer behind it,. It doesn't translate into good quality product.
Then you have answered your own question from the title.I know the difference between those two ( tags and categories).
Strategy, rpg etc they mean something describe a game in a way, inform us what can we expect from a game, but indie doesn't inform us of anything.
If you call a game AAA, it says it had a huge production budget.
Overall having AAA category would made more sense, since it inform me of thing as good quality of product, at least it should be.
Indie only inform me that it was made by a company that doesn't have big developer behind it,. It doesn't translate into good quality product.
Roxolani
1-Up
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From United States
Posted August 15, 2015
- It's a category not a genre.
- Many gamers are interested to play indie games and support indie developers. So gaming communities, websites, reviewers use "indie" terminology to categorize those games.
- Gamers use many tags and concepts. It does not mean all of them are "genre" or they must be genre.
- I don't think it's a big problem that GOG uses indie as genre. It's just a way to categorize indie games and help GOGers to find them easily. For example, click on indie and you will see FTL. And in the info section its genre is strategy, simulation and sci-fi. So do you think it's really an issue?
- Steam tag system is another example. It's a mix of genres, terms and features. Nobody thinks that "Great Soundtrack" is a genre. It's just a good tag to find games with good music.
- Many gamers are interested to play indie games and support indie developers. So gaming communities, websites, reviewers use "indie" terminology to categorize those games.
- Gamers use many tags and concepts. It does not mean all of them are "genre" or they must be genre.
- I don't think it's a big problem that GOG uses indie as genre. It's just a way to categorize indie games and help GOGers to find them easily. For example, click on indie and you will see FTL. And in the info section its genre is strategy, simulation and sci-fi. So do you think it's really an issue?
- Steam tag system is another example. It's a mix of genres, terms and features. Nobody thinks that "Great Soundtrack" is a genre. It's just a good tag to find games with good music.