if the country is part of NATO or supports NATO,it's NOT gonna kiss russia's butt. period. you wanna look for friends of russia (for whatever insane paranoid reason), look in the middle east. or maybe china.

and poland ball can into former glory? which century did you get your news from?

from what i read ,the CCCP temporarily armed and trained the PLA too, if that's worth anything.

and my distant chink commie cousins were supposedly quite "democratic" in the beginning. they killed off the landowners, then shared the land among themselves. too bad china has a ridiculous number of people, so they ran out of stuff to split up... even after they killed off like 3 million of themselves mostly by starving.

I've read quite a deal of historical stuff, and I came to the conclusion that the problems in the so-called communist bloc were not from any kind of structural problem with the economic system but simply because one side had less resources and wealth than the other after WWII. The USSR came out of WWII barely alive, losing approx 20 million of it's people and countless towns and cities in ruins. On the other hand the US came out of the war in massive prosperity, having barely lost any of it's population and the war never having touched their homeland. It had the resources to start the Marshall Plan, while the USSR had barely anything to spend on itself, let alone the Eastern European states it was in occupation of.

It's not surprising that exhaustive process of rebuilding after WWII, alongside the fact that the Cold War started at the same time and required incredible military spending (including a nuclear program) to keep up with the West, caused

Literally every country that had a socialist system had zero resources when it started, in China the Civil War and the war with Japan ruined the country by the time the communists assumed power. Same thing with Russia and the USSR, they had a Civil War and World War I.

People sayin' that nowadays there are slaves in here and there, slavish 9 to 5 bullcrap, slave this and that... these folks don't really know what slavery was all about. China is filled with "modern day slaves" and etc... tsc tsc. Nonsense.
I come from a terrible country who was doomed from its conception. Both colonial "invaders" and nowadays dictators/devilish companies/congolese - and african- elites and some big banks helped the once great DRC turn into the seventh circle of Dante's Inferno.

I mean, we'll never know what real slavery was, like the belgian colonial atrocities in Leopold's Congo, for instance. Don't worry modern belgians, I mean colonial belgians :)
By far, the most disgusting deal in the past two centuries. And no one really cares. Heck, not even 1 million brutally murdered in Rwanda shook the 90s, why would the DRC do any less?

Slavery (to say the least): extinguishing your culture and replacing it for something quite alien, I'd say/murdering your family in front of you/cuttin' people's hands in pieces (just for "fun")/whipping your back for hours, even crucifixion, impalation... two sided coins, yep, but nonetheless terrifying.

Different professions definitely were paid different moneys and/or had more benefits like sending kids to Black Sea with the intention of promoting work migration to harder regions (Siberia has "Nordic coefficient", all jobs got 45% wage increase, was good to work until pension, then move to South) or award harder jobs.

What everyone talking about "bad communism" miss is that you compare top tier of capitalism food chain with all of USSR combined. You left out of equation thousands of people living unfathomable worse for a chance to provide you with better lives right now.
People on plantations work their lives out without access to healthcare, and even to results of their jobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEN4hcZutO0
Practically, West still doesn't shed light on it for the sake of profit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_boycott
USSR didn't use it as propaganda because it would've been downgrading - "We compete with ~2Blns of people working together against us".
Realistically, if Khrushchev didn't fuck up relations with China to the brink of the war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict
USSR would've been Chief constructor, China would've been main producer and everyone needed roubles, not dollars to buy shit.

After dissolution of USSR things got hairy - people which lived "equally" in USSR, started to compete with their alternatives in a capitalistic market, i.e. agrarians, which lived on welfare/subsidies from USSR started to compete with slaves on plantations.
Poland was lucky - they exported many poles to England and USA, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
provided his motherland with cheap US credits and it recovered well.
Baltic countries - they are paid to block access for Russia to Baltic Sea and bitch about evil Russia, so NATO generals can get their wages.
Nobody invests into them as result - "Why, what if Russia would capture them like priebalts say for 25 years".
Yeah, every Russian dreams about possibility to feed these ungrateful pigs again.

You are wrong.
Communism is based on the principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_need
Everyone was aware that people working hard physical jobs needed more meat, that different illnesses need different drugs and so on.

"Fallacious economic concept" works in China and Vietnam.
Real socialism was something like "you work, pay 90% taxes, government takes all decisions".
Free education, healthcare as result, which still stands almost true.
I paid for my two degrees 6000 roubles, when $ was ~20. Everything else were paid by state.

You're proving my argument.

China has a capitalist economy.

China indeed is an interesting case.
I see it as megacorporation, people from different branches do compete, but they do work together for Great China.
Compared to West, where we have EU megacompanies trying to break into US market and US companies trying to break into EU market, with tons of shady deals, lobbyism, and backstabbing.

Well, if we talk about thinking differently, people do differ, this is based on surrounding culture, which, in its turn based on historical, economical and social events of the past and present. It's interesting to learn how people perceive the World.
But basis is still defined by Maslow, Doyal and Gough: shelter, food, sex, self-fulfillment

i think you're supposed to hate americas if you say fuck to those conditions.
vietcong barely survived the previous financial crash. china basically built ghost cities for the sake of fake GDP growth. they're the worse example of captialism. fool.
don't those communities regularly get decimated by plagues or some kinda common virus because they also tend to be anti-medicine anit-vaxxers like the amish???

I don't see arguments.
At best you posted equivalent of "Turtles are slower than rabbits"="Socialism development after 1960+ was slower than capitalism".
It doesn't say that system doesn't work.
Enjoy your unpaid internships and 90 hours weeks, which wouldn't let you buy a house in US because they cost $500k upward.
Different cases:
US borrowed money from future generations, built cities on these money, when growth halted they were abandoned. (beating dead horse of Detroit there)

China build ghost cities as preparations for nuclear war.

It's hard to tell when abscess of American debt would pop, but it definitely would try to kill as much debt holders as possible.

A 7 day waiting period will prevent psychopaths and stupid people from having guns? Maybe the really really impatient psychopaths will just use knives or baseball bats instead. I'm sure, most psychopaths will just wait the 7 days. And just because someone is not a felon doesn't mean, he or she is not a psychopath and not stupid. There are psychopaths who haven't been caught yet or psychopaths who are still young so they haven't had the opportunity yet to do what psychopaths do.

This is basically a straw man argument. You are trying to attack socialism by attacking all the evil shit the Soviet Union and China did, which have nothing to do with socialism. That is like saying, PC gaming is evil because in the past, some PC gamers went on a shooting rampage. I never said, without capitalism, there will never be people doing evil shit to other people.

Negative, ghostrider. The direct cause of the evil was socialism, a system of governance that has failed time and time again and is rotten to the very core.

Not at all. The Holodomor was Josef Stalin's way of dealing with people he saw as a threat. Because he was a bad guy, he dealt with the people he saw as a threat in a very cold blooded way. So because Josef Stalin was a bad guy, socialism is evil? Because there were some bad people who lived and who are living today, socialism is evil? I don't think so. Capitalists deal with threats too and sometimes in ways that would probably even be too evil for Josef Stalin. And because of the nature of capitalism, capitalists do evil shit, not only to deal with people who are a threat but to also profit.

Socialism has never failed and is not rotten to the core. Capitalism on the other hand, has failed time and time again and is rotten to the very core. Just because capitalism has been allowed to keep existing for a long time, doesn't mean it hasn't been failing time and time again.