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General discussionHave you bought your Ubisoft game from a shady cd key reseller ?(105 posts)(105 posts)
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Posted January 27, 2015
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realkman666: Cross-region purchases, y'know, the reason behind all this.
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MorningStar33: I understand what you're trying and to say. And you are completely wrong. Literally. Nothing you said is correct, including all that internet rage that I didn't quote. Your perception of economic situation is laughable.
Everything I said is correct. Boo-yah.
Posted January 27, 2015
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apehater: its amazing to read through this thread!

although being active on this forum, almost everyone who blames this poor people for buying from key resellers instead of backup them, isn't an old gamer and don't belong here!

not only that the games doesn't justify the price in any way, you'll forced to deal with a shitty steam clone and (just to remember you) not everyone is rich, so this greedy asshat pubs/devs should be happy that people are spending money on key resellers for their overpriced, incomplete, buggy games!

where exactly is a reliable source that states that the keys, that were sold, were stolen or were generated without permission. any other key is legit!

so to everyone affected with this shitty removals, make a new account on ubisoft and state on their forum, that you will pirate their games from now on since they remove bought games. thats why we need piracy!
This makes little to no sense. While it is true not everyone is rich, how is buying from a scammer a smart idea? This, and it's a free market. The games cost 60 bucks because that is what the market is willing to pay for them. People don't like it? Well maybe they should then wait for price drops instead of being gullible children who buy from the first guy who tells them they sell the same type of candy for half the price.
Posted January 27, 2015
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Cyraxpt: I don't know, i never done that but i can assume that i can buy a large amount of copies and say to my bank that my credit card information was stolen. Sure, i can't repeat the same thing again but i already got away with some "free" cash from the scam so i don't care.

Besides, most of this cases are with stolen credit cards,read or watch this news, they show how a scumbag can stole credit card information with a device, multiply that by various scammers (like i said, an organization) and you get an idea of how does it get to those numbers....
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apehater: i'm pretty sure the way you show us here, doesn't work. you have to spend too much time and money compared to the most unlikely profit. no one will do this for profit.
I like how you judge this way of making money yet you claimed you've never dabbled with this, thus your opinion is rendered that of an ignorant and uninformed. What exactly is your credo in this situation if by your own statement you've never engaged in such an operation? What exactly makes your opinion any viable when tens of thousands of scammers exist?
Post edited January 27, 2015 by HijacK
Posted January 27, 2015
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justanoldgamer: The guy swore to me it fell off the back of a van. And the only reason we were doing business in the back of a 3rd class strip club from the trunk of his Lada is because he stalled and pushed the car to the nearest convenient spot.
LOL That got a really good laugh out of me. Thank you for making my evening better. xD
Posted January 27, 2015
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apehater: i hope my point about the "scammed" uplay keys is pretty clear now.

so just to remind, cause this was ignored:

although being active on this forum, almost everyone who blames this poor people for buying from key resellers instead of backup them, isn't an old gamer and don't belong here! seriously you're backing up shitty, greedy pubs/devs. i advise to play more old and new games before continuing with such posts.

also please don't reply to my post with stories about the "poor" ubisoft and their "losses". before doing so just look after far cry 4 sales. also shrink budget for pr.

not only that the games doesn't justify the price in any way, you'll forced to deal with a shitty steam clone and (just to remember you) not everyone is rich, so this greedy asshat pubs/devs should be happy that people are spending money on key resellers for their overpriced, incomplete, buggy games nowdays!

you're blaming people with the desire to play a game, the courage, honesty, decency and willingness to pay for it and being to poor for ubi's greedy prices!

so to everyone affected with this shitty removals, make a new account on ubisoft and state on their forum, that you will pirate their games from now on since they remove bought games. thats why we need piracy!
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realkman666: People who take advantage of a lower price in poorer regions are just shitheads who deserve what they're getting. I don't like either Ubisoft or Rebellion, but I hope other publishers follow in their footsteps to stop scammers and thieves, as well as these consumers, from ruining a measure that's designed to encourage sales of games in these regions. Entitlement is not a cool word anymore, but it's the only one that applies to people thinking they can decide how much something is worth instead of buying something else or abstaining.
Thanks for your honesty! :D
Fancy paying $90 for a COD or EA game when its usually $50 USD?. i bet you dont.....thought id throw that into the conversation
Posted January 27, 2015
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Niggles: Fancy paying $90 for a COD or EA game when its usually $50 USD?. i bet you dont.....thought id throw that into the conversation
I'll take Things a Russian said that didn't make any sense to me for 800, Alex.
Posted January 27, 2015
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apehater: my link hold pretty well against it.
Your link's defense of their practice is the following
The supply chain for physical boxed copies goes something like this: Rebellion -> Publisher -> 100+ Distributors (in various countries) -> Retailers (Amazon, GAME, CJS CD Keys, EBGames, etc). Some of the bigger retailers can sometimes buy directly from the Publisher if they have sufficient buying power.
Rebellion said the chain for those 7050 keys went like this:
Rebellion -> Publisher -> 100+ Distributors (in various countries) ->Keys Stolen -> Retailers (Amazon, GAME, CJS CD Keys, EBGames, etc). Some of the bigger retailers can sometimes buy directly from the Publisher if they have sufficient buying power.
The retailers bought the games in good faith, but the keys have already been compromised. And that is the reddit post I linked. It explains at what point the keys were compromised. It's just 2 posts after all, not the full thread.
Posted January 27, 2015
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realkman666: I'll take Things a Russian said that didn't make any sense to me for 800, Alex.
He's Australian.
Posted January 27, 2015
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realkman666: I'll take Things a Russian said that didn't make any sense to me for 800, Alex.
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Grargar: He's Australian.
Great.
Posted January 27, 2015
The idea of a universal concept of a "fair price" is nonsense. The "fair" price of a copy is whatever it costs to download it, which is zero if the hoster volunteers electricity, hardware, and bandwidth. The price of a license is whatever the rightsholder tells you to pay, which is entirely arbitrary. Sure, traditional developers need to recoup the costs of development, but the price isn't based on that. Do you get a partial refund if the game sells better than expected? No. Is the game more likely to go on sale if it sold well rather than poorly? No. Every price except zero is an ass-pull. A counterfeit license is no better than piracy (in fact, it might be worse than piracy, because you're a drain on infrastructure).

Disclaimer: I've never played a regionally priced game.
Posted January 28, 2015
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/01/27/ubisoft-says-deactivated-far-cry-keys-purchased-with-stolen-credit-card.aspx
EA has confirmed Ubisoft's assertion that the fraudulent keys in question were purchased from Origin. The company provided us with additional detail.

"A number of activation keys for Ubisoft products were purchased from Origin using fraudulent credit cards, and then resold online," an EA representative told us via email. "We identified the unauthorized keys and notified Ubisoft. If you are having trouble with an activation key, we recommend you contact the vendor who sold it to you for a refund. We strongly advise players only purchase keys from Origin or trusted resellers. For more information on our policy is available here: http://help.ea.com/en/article/should-i-purchase-my-ea-downloadable-games-from-cd-key-sellers/."
Posted January 28, 2015
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ne_zavarj: http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/01/27/ubisoft-says-deactivated-far-cry-keys-purchased-with-stolen-credit-card.aspx

EA has confirmed Ubisoft's assertion that the fraudulent keys in question were purchased from Origin. The company provided us with additional detail.

"A number of activation keys for Ubisoft products were purchased from Origin using fraudulent credit cards, and then resold online," an EA representative told us via email. "We identified the unauthorized keys and notified Ubisoft. If you are having trouble with an activation key, we recommend you contact the vendor who sold it to you for a refund. We strongly advise players only purchase keys from Origin or trusted resellers. For more information on our policy is available here: http://help.ea.com/en/article/should-i-purchase-my-ea-downloadable-games-from-cd-key-sellers/."
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ne_zavarj:
Interesting read, cheers :)
Posted January 28, 2015
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-01-28-deactivated-ubisoft-game-keys-bought-from-eas-origin-using-stolen-credit-cards
Posted January 28, 2015
Anyone surprised? Again, just avoid those websites that buy keys from random people...
Posted January 28, 2015

Kinguin Refunds Revoked Ubisoft Keys

We would like to share some of our insights regarding the Ubisoft revoked keys in the last few days.

Firstly few stats:

More than 4600 customer tickets received in the last 72 hours
Games affected - so far: 1051x FarCry4, 450x Assassin’s Creed, 61x WatchDogs, 11x The Crew
We estimate total amount currently to be refunded to 148377 EUR
35 out of 3400 Kinguin Merchants affected by the case
All Merchants in cooperation with Kinguin have been and will continue to refund affected customers
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