Posted February 27, 2019
RoboPond
NOLF!?!?!?!?!
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satoru
Where am I?!
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Posted February 27, 2019
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ssokolow
Linux Geek
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From Canada
Posted February 28, 2019
Not necessarily. I have a Retrode (with N64 cart adapter) that I plug my childhood N64 carts into (or ones I used to rent and have since bought on eBay).
One of these days, I really need to track down the cause of my N64's reset problem and find a deal on a ~22" CRT TV for the sake of the full nostalgic experience.
That said, you won't see me arguing over companies being too eager to use web technologies in desktop apps.
One of these days, I really need to track down the cause of my N64's reset problem and find a deal on a ~22" CRT TV for the sake of the full nostalgic experience.
DosFreak: Steam provides different binaries based on the OS. If you check the packages folder you'll see them.The laziest solution would have been to not push updates to non-supported operating systems anymore leaving them on the old client. Instead people have to hunt down old steam versions and/or replace dlls and hunt down the config file changes or command line switches to prevent steam updates. If they were really not lazy they wouldn't use CEF for a game launcher or provide a switch to not use it. I don't care about the browser crap and I'm sure there are many others like me. When they code Steam they could offer two paths in their code usable with a switch, bloated POS mode by default (current mode) or game launcher mode without BS (enabled via switch). It's not that hard.
Really they should leave the web browsing to web browsers but that makes too much sense.
I don't care anyway since I use other means that work quite well on all of the Steam games I own for Windows 2000 and above so I don't need Steam to play my games but it's ridiculous how people are treated and they just lap it up because "it's just a game".
When was the last time you saw a major company that welcomed the potential problems (support, PR, and possibly even legal) of continuing to implicitly endorse unsupported and unmaintained software by offering it up for distribution? Really they should leave the web browsing to web browsers but that makes too much sense.
I don't care anyway since I use other means that work quite well on all of the Steam games I own for Windows 2000 and above so I don't need Steam to play my games but it's ridiculous how people are treated and they just lap it up because "it's just a game".
That said, you won't see me arguing over companies being too eager to use web technologies in desktop apps.
Post edited February 28, 2019 by ssokolow
KidInTheHall28
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Posted February 28, 2019
They said they'd delete our access to them.
DosFreak
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Posted February 28, 2019
ssokolow: Not necessarily. I have a Retrode (with N64 cart adapter) that I plug my childhood N64 carts into (or ones I used to rent and have since bought on eBay).
One of these days, I really need to track down the cause of my N64's reset problem and find a deal on a ~22" CRT TV for the sake of the full nostalgic experience.
That said, you won't see me arguing over companies being too eager to use web technologies in desktop apps.
Daily as evidenced by most of the games on steam that are sold but never updated. The ones that use 3rd party libraries are easy to identify vulnerabilities for, others less so. Any game that uses network access and hasn't been updated in awhile is likely a high risk.One of these days, I really need to track down the cause of my N64's reset problem and find a deal on a ~22" CRT TV for the sake of the full nostalgic experience.
DosFreak: Steam provides different binaries based on the OS. If you check the packages folder you'll see them.The laziest solution would have been to not push updates to non-supported operating systems anymore leaving them on the old client. Instead people have to hunt down old steam versions and/or replace dlls and hunt down the config file changes or command line switches to prevent steam updates. If they were really not lazy they wouldn't use CEF for a game launcher or provide a switch to not use it. I don't care about the browser crap and I'm sure there are many others like me. When they code Steam they could offer two paths in their code usable with a switch, bloated POS mode by default (current mode) or game launcher mode without BS (enabled via switch). It's not that hard.
Really they should leave the web browsing to web browsers but that makes too much sense.
I don't care anyway since I use other means that work quite well on all of the Steam games I own for Windows 2000 and above so I don't need Steam to play my games but it's ridiculous how people are treated and they just lap it up because "it's just a game".
ssokolow: When was the last time you saw a major company that welcomed the potential problems (support, PR, and possibly even legal) of continuing to implicitly endorse unsupported and unmaintained software by offering it up for distribution? Really they should leave the web browsing to web browsers but that makes too much sense.
I don't care anyway since I use other means that work quite well on all of the Steam games I own for Windows 2000 and above so I don't need Steam to play my games but it's ridiculous how people are treated and they just lap it up because "it's just a game".
That said, you won't see me arguing over companies being too eager to use web technologies in desktop apps.
HypersomniacLive
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ssokolow
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Posted March 01, 2019
DosFreak: Daily as evidenced by most of the games on steam that are sold but never updated. The ones that use 3rd party libraries are easy to identify vulnerabilities for, others less so. Any game that uses network access and hasn't been updated in awhile is likely a high risk.
I'm not talking about game developers who don't bother with updates. I'm talking about companies that push updates for non-game application software, but also offer versions that receive none of said updates. 1. Games not receiving updates is something people are much more used to.
2. People expect software that functions significantly as a network to receive updates.
3. Updating one variant builds an expectation that all variants receive updates when necessary.
Post edited March 01, 2019 by ssokolow
zeroxxx
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Posted March 05, 2019
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zeroxxx: So yeah, I hate to lay this out but in both cases you are going to suffer no matter what. Your poetic description that keeping offline backup means NOTHING in this connected world. Your legitimate copy of Witcher 3 has no different properties than my illegitimate copy of Witcher 3 in case GoG goes bankrupt without recourse. Be in denial all you want, but cold, hard truth won't go away.
AB2012: Section 17.3 of GOG's Terms & Conditions specifically grants users (note: that's "users" not "subscribers") the right to legally continue to use any offline installers they have in the event GOG goes out of business:- https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-User-Agreement
Multiple GOG members of staff have reaffirmed that means your license to play doesn't expire in the event the cloud version / GOG disappears.
AB2012: ^ Including yourself if you think a licensed offline copy and a torrented pirated version are "the same". It's probably best to give the constant sarcastic anti-anti-DRM sniping a rest for a while until you can at least bother to read the same T&C's yourself that you're trying and failing to "interpret", eh?
Do you want me to give example how I can get latest version, untouched copy of Witcher 3 without purchasing it legitimately? Or are you too stupid to comprehend?
Managerium
All you have is what you are, and what you give
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Posted March 05, 2019
If this has been discussed before, so be it. Too many threads, too little time.
Backing up all your GOG games is the ideal, but one backup is as good as no backup at all. It's like 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes'?
What do you do when your 6Tb Seagate HDD flatlines, as mine has just done, and no amount of work will wake it up., and that's where all your GOG games were stored. Of course I know I should have had a second backup, which, of course, i don't have. I have a few favourites backed up elsewhere, but by no means my whole library. Just didn't have the funds to get another big hard drive.
Excuse my cynicism - although GOG blithely assures us that good days are ahead - that somehow makes me even more nervous about not having my games backed up.
Of course there is also the question of access to updates to games, if one even has them backed up up in the first place. I'm sure that's discussed somewhere also, but I just can't wade through all the threads about this. Would the developers, shown proof of a GOG purchase, allow you to download an update to a game?
I have read about a Python script for backing up your whole library, but I'm not very good at stuff like that, will try to find it. I know I tried it once before and didn't manage to get it to work - 'it's not you, it's me', as the saying goes.
But first I need to rob a bank, hard drives are expensive here with our useless currency.
Going off-topic, but that seems to be happening in all these threads, where are your saved games stored? Other than on my dead 6Tb Seagate?
Backing up all your GOG games is the ideal, but one backup is as good as no backup at all. It's like 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes'?
What do you do when your 6Tb Seagate HDD flatlines, as mine has just done, and no amount of work will wake it up., and that's where all your GOG games were stored. Of course I know I should have had a second backup, which, of course, i don't have. I have a few favourites backed up elsewhere, but by no means my whole library. Just didn't have the funds to get another big hard drive.
Excuse my cynicism - although GOG blithely assures us that good days are ahead - that somehow makes me even more nervous about not having my games backed up.
Of course there is also the question of access to updates to games, if one even has them backed up up in the first place. I'm sure that's discussed somewhere also, but I just can't wade through all the threads about this. Would the developers, shown proof of a GOG purchase, allow you to download an update to a game?
I have read about a Python script for backing up your whole library, but I'm not very good at stuff like that, will try to find it. I know I tried it once before and didn't manage to get it to work - 'it's not you, it's me', as the saying goes.
But first I need to rob a bank, hard drives are expensive here with our useless currency.
Going off-topic, but that seems to be happening in all these threads, where are your saved games stored? Other than on my dead 6Tb Seagate?
Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
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Posted March 05, 2019
Managerium: If this has been discussed before, so be it. Too many threads, too little time.
Backing up all your GOG games is the ideal, but one backup is as good as no backup at all. It's like 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes'?
What do you do when your 6Tb Seagate HDD flatlines, as mine has just done, and no amount of work will wake it up., and that's where all your GOG games were stored. Of course I know I should have had a second backup, which, of course, i don't have. I have a few favourites backed up elsewhere, but by no means my whole library. Just didn't have the funds to get another big hard drive.
Excuse my cynicism - although GOG blithely assures us that good days are ahead - that somehow makes me even more nervous about not having my games backed up.
Of course there is also the question of access to updates to games, if one even has them backed up up in the first place. I'm sure that's discussed somewhere also, but I just can't wade through all the threads about this. Would the developers, shown proof of a GOG purchase, allow you to download an update to a game?
I have read about a Python script for backing up your whole library, but I'm not very good at stuff like that, will try to find it. I know I tried it once before and didn't manage to get it to work - 'it's not you, it's me', as the saying goes.
But first I need to rob a bank, hard drives are expensive here with our useless currency.
Going off-topic, but that seems to be happening in all these threads, where are your saved games stored? Other than on my dead 6Tb Seagate?
Not much to do when the drive won't spin up again, except to restart from scratch and take precautions in case it happens again. Backing up all your GOG games is the ideal, but one backup is as good as no backup at all. It's like 'quis custodiet ipsos custodes'?
What do you do when your 6Tb Seagate HDD flatlines, as mine has just done, and no amount of work will wake it up., and that's where all your GOG games were stored. Of course I know I should have had a second backup, which, of course, i don't have. I have a few favourites backed up elsewhere, but by no means my whole library. Just didn't have the funds to get another big hard drive.
Excuse my cynicism - although GOG blithely assures us that good days are ahead - that somehow makes me even more nervous about not having my games backed up.
Of course there is also the question of access to updates to games, if one even has them backed up up in the first place. I'm sure that's discussed somewhere also, but I just can't wade through all the threads about this. Would the developers, shown proof of a GOG purchase, allow you to download an update to a game?
I have read about a Python script for backing up your whole library, but I'm not very good at stuff like that, will try to find it. I know I tried it once before and didn't manage to get it to work - 'it's not you, it's me', as the saying goes.
But first I need to rob a bank, hard drives are expensive here with our useless currency.
Going off-topic, but that seems to be happening in all these threads, where are your saved games stored? Other than on my dead 6Tb Seagate?
Get (or build) a NAS with a RAID (or RAID-like, whatever the actual technology) setup. At the very least mirrored drives. One dies, you replace that and mirror the working one/rebuild the data.
My DIY FreeBSD server with multi-drive RAIDZ-2 storage may be a bit too much work for most (and, on the whole, probably a slightly too large hammer for that specific nail - I had a couple other nails I wanted to hit as well, so it suits my needs and skills quite well), but an off-the-shelf NAS with mirrored drives should come with instructions and software easy enough for most users to set up and manage by themselves.
my name is catte
i touch your foods
my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted March 05, 2019
I mean, I guess what they mean is that redownloading won't be available if GOG ceases to exist. Quite why they think that is noteworthy is another thing. There are no stores that would continue to provide redownloads after they cease to exist... because they don't exist.
Starkrun
Poops Darkmatter
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Posted May 14, 2020
There has never been an offical statement that im aware of but GOG is tied to CD Projekt and will never fold unless they do. Right now they are making BANK and when Cyberpunk 2077 drops its going to explode.
My GOG collection is 3TB large with almost 5,000 files... come again? Im a database guy and keeping this collection updated is daunting. They no longer use -update flags in the entries off accounts so I need to generate and maintain manifest files and compare checksums of my online vs offline collection. For a set time they would allow downloading and distribute a patch to play offline permanently and then go offline. this was confirmed multiple times. I even got an email back in the day about it around the time Episode 2 was released, of course i cant find it now when I need too...
My GOG collection is 3TB large with almost 5,000 files... come again? Im a database guy and keeping this collection updated is daunting. They no longer use -update flags in the entries off accounts so I need to generate and maintain manifest files and compare checksums of my online vs offline collection. For a set time they would allow downloading and distribute a patch to play offline permanently and then go offline. this was confirmed multiple times. I even got an email back in the day about it around the time Episode 2 was released, of course i cant find it now when I need too...
Post edited May 14, 2020 by Starkrun
ASHLIIN
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From Austria
Posted May 14, 2020
It won't just shut down from one day to another.
So even if it would close probably you would have plenty of time to backup the games.
So even if it would close probably you would have plenty of time to backup the games.
my name is catte
i touch your foods
my name is catte Sorry, data for given user is currently unavailable. Please, try again later. View profile View wishlist Start conversation Invite to friends Invite to friends Accept invitation Accept invitation Pending invitation... Unblock chat Registered: Mar 2010
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Posted May 14, 2020
If GOG shuts down, the super-secret DRM built into everything will activate and cause your hard drive to self destruct. So, you know, keep buying games to keep GOG in business if you value your computer.
ASHLIIN
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Posted May 14, 2020