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Caine123: but on desura you have to use the key and then can also download the game DRM free... that's how all desura games i got work. you just need the key to sign it up on desura then you can play via their client and/or download the ZIP.
Desura is not DRM free in general, I've got to know this via "Depth Hunter" as I've written before.
(It has to be verified via key online every time you want to play it).

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StorkV88: what sane developers would apply theirgame to a known DRM-free game store with DRM?
The game would have been DRM-free....
See above, if you meant Desura.

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Klumpen0815: Who said that it was GoG's decision?
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DeathDiciple: The devs themselves, see attach here.
Interesting, although I wouldn't hate GoG if this is true, I wonder where the difference to Postal may be.
I guess there are other reasons too like pricing, fear of a forced age verification etc..
Post edited May 26, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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StorkV88: It's more about the controversy surrounding this game than the actual game... there was a big fight against it, people are afraid that this is the first step of going towards a pg13 in video games, let's face it polygon has attacked The Witcher 3 too... for being too mature for the mature audiences.
And making a game like Hatred, a slimy mass murder sim, into a flagship of mature games is the worst way to go about it in my opinion, and the least... well, mature.

I respect everyones right to play Hatred. I just don't have to respect their choice to do so. There is place for fictional violence in entertainment, but Hatred and it's supporters take something very ugly and try to ennoble it. If we want to have the right to have mature themes and violence in our entertainment we should act resposibly when using that right.
I cannot believe GOG pussed out, They could have backed a fellow Polish developer and put another dent in the AAA bullshit you see in this industry, that consistently comes from North American publishers. What in the actual FUCK went wrong here? I'll be buying the game straight from the devs, just like I fucking bought the last two Witcher games from GOG to support CDPR. This is inexcusable imo. Valve even went to bat for these guys and their own countrymen can't?
Post edited May 26, 2015 by Garrison72
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Breja: I respect everyones right to play Hatred. I just don't have to respect their choice to do so. There is place for fictional violence in entertainment, but Hatred and it's supporters take something very ugly and try to ennoble it. If we want to have the right to have mature themes and violence in our entertainment we should act resposibly when using that right.
I disagree, but let's agree to disagree.
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Klumpen0815: Interesting, although I wouldn't blame GoG if this is true, I wonder where the difference to Postal may be.
I'd say the main difference is, when they added postal SJW cult wasn't as popular. And they didn't hate it nearly as much. It's just the agendas and lobbyists, and the main reason (I would guess) most of us want to buy it (and want it here) in the first place.
Post edited May 26, 2015 by DeathDiciple
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Breja: I'm not trying to antagonize, I was just making a little fun. There are many games that are not on GOG. But only this sad, pathetic little example of violence porn gets this much drama over it.

I think it tells a lot about the people wanting to play Hatred, people in this thread, that my post calling Licurg classy for telling me to "fuck my mother" got downvoted, but his childish, slimy little insult did not. That is the crowd that is whining here about how their dream mass murder simulator isn't on GOG.
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Post edited May 26, 2015 by gamefood
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Klumpen0815: Interesting, although I wouldn't blame GoG if this is true, I wonder where the difference to Postal may be.
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DeathDiciple: I'd say the main difference is, when they added postal SJW cult wasn't as popular. And they didn't hate it nearly as much. It's just the agendas and lobbyists, and the main reason (I would guess) most of us want to buy it (and want it here) in the first place.
not a SJW, but postal is a rather shitty game. postal 2 sounds more fun.
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dick1982: not a SJW, but postal is a rather shitty game. postal 2 sounds more fun.
Well postal 2 is a better game. That's not the point tho.
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PaterAlf: This game would've been interesting, but unfortunately it was a fake.
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InfraSuperman: A shame. That concept did sound quite intriguing.
I suppose, for now, DreamWeb remains the best game about a deranged serial killer...
i thought that's harvester?

many spoilers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny0CV8wFeQ4
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StorkV88: It's more about the controversy surrounding this game than the actual game... there was a big fight against it, people are afraid that this is the first step of going towards a pg13 in video games, let's face it polygon has attacked The Witcher 3 too... for being too mature for the mature audiences.
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Breja: And making a game like Hatred, a slimy mass murder sim, into a flagship of mature games is the worst way to go about it in my opinion, and the least... well, mature.

I respect everyones right to play Hatred. I just don't have to respect their choice to do so. There is place for fictional violence in entertainment, but Hatred and it's supporters take something very ugly and try to ennoble it. If we want to have the right to have mature themes and violence in our entertainment we should act resposibly when using that right.
Bullshit. Hatred doesn't ennoble violence, it shoves it right in your face. What GoG just did is refuse a game based on its context. Valve went though a firestorm for this and Gabe himself had to iron things out. All of this flies right under the radar for GOG. They get no heat wheresoever. At least Gabe showed some balls.
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Breja: And making a game like Hatred, a slimy mass murder sim, into a flagship of mature games is the worst way to go about it in my opinion, and the least... well, mature.

I respect everyones right to play Hatred. I just don't have to respect their choice to do so. There is place for fictional violence in entertainment, but Hatred and it's supporters take something very ugly and try to ennoble it. If we want to have the right to have mature themes and violence in our entertainment we should act resposibly when using that right.
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Garrison72: Bullshit. Hatred doesn't ennoble violence, it shoves it right in your face. What GoG just did is refuse a game based on its context. Valve went though a firestorm for this and Gabe himself had to iron things out. All of this flies right under the radar for GOG. They get no heat wheresoever. At least Gabe showed some balls.
Do you know for a fact that is why the game was rejected? Because all I seen was a post from the devs on facebook saying that it was rejected and that GOG saying "it's good but we can't sell it" which can mean anything. Maybe they felt it wasn't worth the asking price, maybe they felt the game just didn't have anything to it outside of the whole controversy. Until we have a solid answer that says that yes they rejected it because it was "controversial" we can't and won't know why it was rejected.

So why are so many just jumping to conclusions? I am not blindly defending GOG here just pointing out that as it stands people are just jumping to conclusions, besides it's not like GOG couldn't change their minds anyway. Honestly GOG has rejected games in the past for silly reasons like Xenonaughts was rejected due to them at the time feeling it was too high priced for a indy and yet it's here, Cat Lady was rejected at first for unspecified reasons, well not entirely unspecified outside of the vague "not a good fit" but they changed their minds on that as well.

So it's possible that they could change their minds on Hatred, not saying that it's going to happen just that it may happen. But jumping to wild conclusions and some of the other outbursts I seen sure as hell doesn't help the game's case much nor will it cause anyone to take pleads for a change of heart seriously.

But hey what do I know.
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Garrison72: I cannot believe GOG pussed out, They could have backed a fellow Polish developer and put another dent in the AAA bullshit you see in this industry, that consistently comes from North American publishers. What in the actual FUCK went wrong here? I'll be buying the game straight from the devs, just like I fucking bought the last two Witcher games from GOG to support CDPR. This is inexcusable imo. Valve even went to bat for these guys and their own countrymen can't?
I believe it's likely GoG backed out because it's a Polish developer. It's one thing for steam to sell Hatred. They don't have to worry about angry rioters burning their headquarters down. This is actually a real issue in Warsaw, especially with the political affiliations of the developer. While I would love to see this game on GoG I don't think it's fair to ask the GoG team to risk their lives to host a particular game.
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Afaik, as of May 25th 8pm EST, we don't know why it was rejected.

Also, those believing it was rejected b/c of violence, what makes GOG selling Postal 1 & 2 different from this case? (honest question)

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tremere110: I believe it's likely GoG backed out because it's a Polish developer. It's one thing for steam to sell Hatred. They don't have to worry about angry rioters burning their headquarters down. This is actually a real issue in Warsaw, especially with the political affiliations of the developer. While I would love to see this game on GoG I don't think it's fair to ask the GoG team to risk their lives to host a particular game.
Interesting. I suppose the fact that GOG now has an office in California won't help, unfortunately.
Post edited May 26, 2015 by tfishell
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tfishell: Afaik, as of May 25th 8pm EST, we don't know why it was rejected.

Also, those believing it was rejected b/c of violence, what makes GOG selling Postal 1 & 2 different from this case? (honest question)
not to fuel the rantings and lynch mobs here but not just postal 1 and 2, we also got MK 1-3, Hotline Miami 1 and 2, Blood, Cat Lady and many other fairly violent games. Granted Postal 1 is a closer fit to Hatred since both feature the player going on killing spree offing innocent people and cops.

But if we are talking about just violence then yeah one can bring up those games and others as well, if your talking the context of the violence then yeah Postal 1 is closet thing we have to something that is sold here that has violence in that context(a guy going on a shooting spree)
Post edited May 26, 2015 by DCT
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