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Yet another "the sky is falling" thread. How trite.
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karnak1: In my opinion GOG has been going downhill for some years now. Stupid decisions, poor communication between the store and its customers and a severe lack of professionalism concerning the store maintenance. From my own professional experience I suspect all this is the result of a very, very incompetent and stupid management. If CDP manages to replace the store's management for someone skilled then things can definitely improve.

But I gotta give credit, where credit is due: GOG also has a severe issue with its customer base. I think it has one of the most divisive clientele I've ever seen. After all this time it's still divided between:
- People who are only interested in DRM-free old games.
- People who are only interested in DRM-free AAA games.
- People who are only interested in DRM-free indie games.
- People who buy on GOG but also buy on other stores
- People who only buy on GOG
- People who are interested in DRM-free games but want client-related perks (achievements, cloud-saves, etc)
- People who are only interested in the DRM-free offline installers
- People who want DRM-free Linux games
- People who don't care about DRM-free and only want to buy their games where it's cheaper
- People etc etc etc....
As someone who has once worked on customer service, it can be a real pain the ass to try to please many greeks and trojans at once. It takes some marketing and communicational skills, which GOG clearly lacks nowadays.

And - second and most important factor - the gamer base has turned to s#!t. Regardless of what happens to GOG I gotta admit that, in these last couple of years, I've grown disgusted with the way the gaming industry is going.
Maybe it's me just getting old... But until 2019 I always fascinated by the specific "magic" of videogaming. And this magic seems to be vanishing. Fast. If GOG vanishes then I don't think I'll even bother to pirate the vast amount of crap which is created nowadays.

Personal anedocte: some years ago I used to know plenty of guys who bought games on GOG. Because of DRM-free. Most of these guys have now stopped buying games here and now almost buy exclusively on steam.
Is it because of GOG's incompetence? Lack of game updates? Poor customer management?
Nope... basically all of these guys now only buy on steam just because they want the "shiny new game" which was only released on steam.
Now: I'm not criticizing them for buying on other stores. Everyone should be allowed to buy any game they want, wherever they want, be it on GOG, steam, zoom, epic, whatever.
My only gripe is: why people who once cared for DRM-free gaming and still have a backlog of 500+ unplayed games will give money to buy a DRM'd game which they probably will never play in their lives?!?? (thus helping to further encourage DRM and anti-consumer policies)
Nope... whenever I see stuff like this happening I loose all faith in the industry and even in humanity in the long run.

Anyway... It was thanks to GOG that I managed to replay some of the wonders from my teenagehood. As well as discovered new treasures.
Personally I only have good things to say about the GOG staff. The "foot soldiers" who try to keep things afloat despite all the incompetence of the upper echelons. I really, really hope that GOG manages to find its way and keep marching forward.

My only advice and my 2 cents: fire whatever Top Brass Dumbfucks are ruining the store with their incompetence and put some able and skilled people running the affairs.
(thanks to whoever had the time & patience to read my rant - if any of the GOG staff reads this, know that you have my support. I know you're doing your best)
You forgot one.

- People who want DRM-free multiplayer video games.

They exist although like three or so I can think off the top of my head. Unreal Tournament, Red Faction, and Unreal Tournament 2004.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Had GOG only ever sold ancient and obsolete games with horrible graphics, as many seem to want, then GOG would have been bankrupt many years ago before now, and this forum would not even exist to host this very thread.

I'm not saying all old games are bad; some aren't.

But my point is: the common philosophy promoted on this board, that GOG could have thrived if only it had continued to sell old/obsolete games exclusively, that is not realistic at all. Really, what would have happened in that case is that GOG truly would have died shortly after the time when they proclaimed it dead as a re-branding PR stunt.

I agree that GOG has gone downhill in recent years, but that has nothing to do with them starting to sell more modern games, which is a good thing, not a bad thing.
Actually you don´t know. And the official estatement is that they want to came back to the roots (but I am not sure either what this means). But the fact is many stores lose tons of money trying to be STEAM, EPIC STORE is other example, but EPIC STORE can afford to have such loses and play the "expensive user acquisition" giving away games they pay for.

I am not critizicing but just telling the facts, GOG took a decision time ago, lost many of the features made the website unique, even if maybe for a few compared to the many. They decided to, be a more open store and try to compete with the big ones making more money, or stay as a profitable niche store that may perish, or not.

I can understand wasn´t an easy decision. But what were been more profitable in the long term? We don´t have all the numbers. I bet GOG have them, so let´s see from here.
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karnak1: In my opinion GOG has been going downhill for some years now. Stupid decisions, poor communication between the store and its customers and a severe lack of professionalism concerning the store maintenance. From my own professional experience I suspect all this is the result of a very, very incompetent and stupid management. If CDP manages to replace the store's management for someone skilled then things can definitely improve.

But I gotta give credit, where credit is due: GOG also has a severe issue with its customer base. I think it has one of the most divisive clientele I've ever seen. After all this time it's still divided between:
- People who are only interested in DRM-free old games.
- People who are only interested in DRM-free AAA games.
- People who are only interested in DRM-free indie games.
- People who buy on GOG but also buy on other stores
- People who only buy on GOG
- People who are interested in DRM-free games but want client-related perks (achievements, cloud-saves, etc)
- People who are only interested in the DRM-free offline installers
- People who want DRM-free Linux games
- People who don't care about DRM-free and only want to buy their games where it's cheaper
- People etc etc etc....
As someone who has once worked on customer service, it can be a real pain the ass to try to please many greeks and trojans at once. It takes some marketing and communicational skills, which GOG clearly lacks nowadays.

And - second and most important factor - the gamer base has turned to s#!t. Regardless of what happens to GOG I gotta admit that, in these last couple of years, I've grown disgusted with the way the gaming industry is going.
Maybe it's me just getting old... But until 2019 I always fascinated by the specific "magic" of videogaming. And this magic seems to be vanishing. Fast. If GOG vanishes then I don't think I'll even bother to pirate the vast amount of crap which is created nowadays.

Personal anedocte: some years ago I used to know plenty of guys who bought games on GOG. Because of DRM-free. Most of these guys have now stopped buying games here and now almost buy exclusively on steam.
Is it because of GOG's incompetence? Lack of game updates? Poor customer management?
Nope... basically all of these guys now only buy on steam just because they want the "shiny new game" which was only released on steam.
Now: I'm not criticizing them for buying on other stores. Everyone should be allowed to buy any game they want, wherever they want, be it on GOG, steam, zoom, epic, whatever.
My only gripe is: why people who once cared for DRM-free gaming and still have a backlog of 500+ unplayed games will give money to buy a DRM'd game which they probably will never play in their lives?!?? (thus helping to further encourage DRM and anti-consumer policies)
Nope... whenever I see stuff like this happening I loose all faith in the industry and even in humanity in the long run.

Anyway... It was thanks to GOG that I managed to replay some of the wonders from my teenagehood. As well as discovered new treasures.
Personally I only have good things to say about the GOG staff. The "foot soldiers" who try to keep things afloat despite all the incompetence of the upper echelons. I really, really hope that GOG manages to find its way and keep marching forward.

My only advice and my 2 cents: fire whatever Top Brass Dumbfucks are ruining the store with their incompetence and put some able and skilled people running the affairs.
(thanks to whoever had the time & patience to read my rant - if any of the GOG staff reads this, know that you have my support. I know you're doing your best)
In a short quote, GOG lost focus.

Well, I am not sure. I felt that GOG came back recently to offer "good old games" even if it didn´t paid so much attention to this in long time, recently was back on track. And INDIE games. But I feel like they didn´t nailed it with the indies. Maybe they should offered a better % to devs to attract them here with temporal exclusives instead of Steam.

But so far as I know because I worked with indie devs. is that sales on GOG for Indie games are very low. So even if you offer them a higher percentage you aren´t still making money enough.

Also Galaxy was a waste of resources IMHO, and the elimination of the libraty with the game boxes was a HUGE loss, really who plays all the games we have? That library was THE GAME of our collections. and they killed it. (But please don´t lose time bring it back, is too late for that, focus in save the ship and continue doing the good job)

I don´t think GOG did wrong in most part of things, just in some few important ones. But wish they can keep on track and continue bringing us this very good option to buy games.

On my personal side if it benefits GOG in any way, and as huge consumer here with a library bigger that I could ever play, I will say why in the last few years I am buying much less in the website, and some reasons are surprisingly not related to any GOG bad management, but to the market itself, BUT may also bring some clear light about what was always my interest here.

Please take all this as constructive feedback:

Reasons why I still buy here:

- I don´t like the actual PC age, I like the golden PC age, and GOG has much of that.
- I don´t need a f... store browser to play the games, sometimes for me STEAM like UI are an advantage some others is NOT. Sometimes I just want to play a game over windows and that´s it. (Better without DRM but is not my main reason) In fact I am growing VERY TIRED of having half a dozen of APPs to load my PC games and is one of the reasons I barely play PC lately.
- Games that are really and still PC oriented, specially RPGs like Divinity, Pillars of Eternity, Disco Elysium... etc....and anything that smells old Baldur´s Gate style is a must buy for me here. (nBut not BG3, that I rather prefer a console version)
- Last but not less important, GOOD OLD GAMES, I instantly bought recently all the STAR-TREK classic releases, as I cannot find those games anywhere else... but be fast, because releases as QUAKE, STARWARS games like Racer or Jedi Outcast on consoles or other platforms should tell you that maybe your "niche" was the way to go.

Reasons why I am buying less here:

- Triple A games for me are a must have in consoles, I own a very high end MSI but I don´t like to play Triple A games anymore on PC. So Xbox Series X and PS5 eat my sales from here, and even from STEAM.
- Nintendo Switch literally made me stop buying INDIE games on PC.
- My game libraries are way too big, In the last few years I became way more picky.

PD: I need to add that the idea of implementing Galaxy as a whole library thing, where you can see all your collections was GREAT but UNREALISTIC. I loved it, but knew from minute 1 it was going to be a flop... sorry, maybe is too early for that, but it was a lovely idea.
Post edited December 01, 2021 by YaTEdiGo
we should be able to trade gog games like those collectible cards fe Charizard pokemon for a Blastoise
Thanks everyone for the feedback, but please move your discussion to the original thread, as to not duplicate. :)