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Maybe it could have been worth it if they included 1 free game each month. But then I guess they would have increased the price...Maybe it would have been better to create something like humble choice where you get games each month with a subscription.
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gogtrial34987: Patrons page - not yet seeing a link to this marketing page and FAQ about the program, so herewith.
I love how they are advertising this new scheme with games they do not even sell. That’s a new low in dishonesty…
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gogtrial34987: Patrons page - not yet seeing a link to this marketing page and FAQ about the program, so herewith.
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vv221: I love how they are advertising this new scheme with games they do not even sell. That’s a new low in dishonesty…
I personally find it quite clever they way the fade out the icons of the games they don't have as you scroll down the page. It really highlights the preservation concept. (However, that effect is easily missed if you page-down the page rather than scroll, which I'm guessing is what you did?)
Post edited October 16, 2025 by gogtrial34987
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5 eurodollars per month is fair enough.
However only credit cards as the payment method seem to be supported right now, what about PayPal?
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vv221: I love how they are advertising this new scheme with games they do not even sell. That’s a new low in dishonesty…
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gogtrial34987: I personally find it quite clever they way the fade out the icons of the games they don't have as you scroll down the page. It really highlights the preservation concept. (However, that effect is easily missed if you page-down the page rather than scroll, which I'm guessing is what you did?)
Even with that, it still advertises the scheme with these games.
It says to me, a potential client, that 'These are the games which are disappearing forever, which we could have the ability to save if you were to donate.' If enough people sign up to cross a certain threshold, are GOG suddenly going to have the resources to convince Microsoft to release AOE II HD on GOG? They've purposely chosen notable/popular games or ones with many votes on the Dreamlist. It seems like a very dubious false promise to entice people to subscribe.

On that patron page, it also reads that GOG will be using the funds to pay for daily operating costs, the hiring of engineers, etc. Even if these are for additional staff and costs not currently budgeted for, it gives me the unsettling impression that GOG does need financial assistance, despite claims to the contrary.

We're not paying for preservation for preservations sake. We're being asked to give money to GOG so they can acquire the product which they will then sell back to us, even the subscribers.
Post edited October 16, 2025 by SultanOfSuave
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seskzklk: 5 eurodollars per month is fair enough.
However only credit cards as the payment method seem to be supported right now, what about PayPal?
The program is still in beta, hence the absence of alternative payment methods to chip in, for now at least?
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SpikedWallMan: GOG, please be very, very careful with where you go with this because it's a very slippery slope.
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Keihltrein: I have been against this from the very start, I only see this as a bad look for GOG in the long run because as you say, is a public traded company and the fact that this stuff (subscriptions) are a slippery slope.

I personally only see this getting worse in the long run, but I would be happy to be wrong.
I wish to double quote this. I am concerned of the risks of 1- dividing the community; 2- causing yet more fear of bankruptcy that would actually cause less sales and backup-scares.

Also, where I llive, €5 per month is not cheap. I am not complaining about the price; I just think the whole thing could backfire. I am just pointing out that there is a gap of expectations vs. price that would probably cause some drop-outs from subscriptions.

Then, the drop-outs could actually start bashing the program outside, creating a yet more negative word of mouth.
Post edited October 16, 2025 by thiagott
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SultanOfSuave: We're not paying for preservation for preservations sake. We're being asked to give money to GOG so they can acquire the product which they will then sell back to us, even the subscribers.
I can understand your logic, even if I don't agree with it. In a similar manner, I received free games from GOG (Alpha Protocol, for example) as a thank you for my support. In a similar manner, they gave me a game that they could have sold to me, but they didn't. And I'm not even talking about the freebies that was given to me in the last 5 years.
As a way to encourage the whole idea, they could give a 10% off to subs for every game that they bring back from disappearing. Doing this, they would be selling the games to us, but with a reduced pricetag. Maybe this way it would justify giving a small amount to GOG every month? I know that it's not really a guarantee, so I understand if some people REALLY don't like the idea. I completely agree that if GOG was a private company, maybe it would alleviate some concerns... but it is what it is.
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Called it earlier:

- https://www.gog.com/forum/general/weve_added_an_optional_way_to_support_our_work/post138
- https://www.gog.com/forum/general/i_will_not_pay_a_subscription_to_preserve_games_id_rather_just_buy_the_old_games/post8

As I said, this is the final straw for me. I'm out until they remove this monthly subbing system and actually charge the proper price that these old games really cost. Good luck.

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Calling it now. This donation thing is gonna fail and will be an excuse for monthly subs.

This is speculation. Y'all retro gamers need to contend with the fact that paying $10 USD for an old game that's now remastered and repackaged by GOG to be compatible with modern systems are being heavily subsidized. I don't know the economics, but I'm gonna wager it should be $20-30 USD to reflect the actual price it took to do the work and be feasible. But you do that and then all these old people who should have the most disposable income are whining about how it should be much cheaper just because it's old.

The economics simply doesn't work out if they have to rely on a donation program to enable this.
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This is a monthly sub fee for services we're already used to and, more importantly, the uneconomic preservation of old retro games should have been built into the price from the get-go. Make the boomers / Xers / retro gamers who actually play these old games pay the actual price that reflects the labour and costs it took to produce the game for the modern age rather than let it be subsidized through other cashflows that unfairly 2-tiers users just because they're not in that niche.

Does anyone here actually think the effort they spent talking to Capcom and remastering Dino Crisis 1 and 2 is actually worth $15 USD/copy? With the lawyers, re-porters, bizdev, marketing, etc. that were involved over months? Without any numbers, I speculate it should be at least $30 USD/copy, but at that price, the mass market aren't buying it because:

1. People expect older games to be cheap since depreciation
2. People are analyzing opportunity costs to get a more recent and funner AAA, AA, or indie spiritual successors with modern QOLs instead

Meanwhile, newer AAA / AA / indie games made these days literally queue up to be curated for the privilege to sell at this store and are almost guaranteed to work on modern systems without much extra work on GOG's part. Yet many of their successful sequels are not being distributed on GOG here simply because GOG doesn't care to better cater towards them like lowering barriers or auto-payments. Even though the markets are more than willing to buy them at a higher price and better help drive GOG's bottom line.

If they even make a subbing service for some frivolous services and this preservation program that should've been able to stand on its own two feet without it, I'm out because it really is the last straw of how incompetent GOG upper management really is and I don't want to support it anymore. There's a better DRM-free store that'll better cater to me I'd rather support.
Post edited October 16, 2025 by UnashamedWeeb
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Have the employees of GOG considered a union and dissolving the upper management? It seems most of the fiscal problems (as is typical of most companies) stems from people who want to afford an extra yacht instead of contributing to their works.
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king_kunat: This absolutely won't be the case.
You say that, but does your management or shareholders agree?
Post edited October 16, 2025 by dnovraD
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As always - don't like it, don't partake in it, it's purely optional anyway.

If it stays at 5 dollarydoos (or the regional equivalent) and paying through PayPal is going to be an option too, I'm in.
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SultanOfSuave: We're not paying for preservation for preservations sake. We're being asked to give money to GOG so they can acquire the product which they will then sell back to us, even the subscribers.
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Shanuca: I can understand your logic, even if I don't agree with it. In a similar manner, I received free games from GOG (Alpha Protocol, for example) as a thank you for my support. In a similar manner, they gave me a game that they could have sold to me, but they didn't. And I'm not even talking about the freebies that was given to me in the last 5 years.
Are you saying that you disagree because GOG have, in the past, been known to give things to their supporters as thanks, in this case with yourself as an example; or is there a different reason that I am missing? Although things may change, in this initial phase they are yet to confirm that they would either offer discounts or free games to patrons.
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Yigdboz: As always - don't like it, don't partake in it, it's purely optional anyway.

If it stays at 5 dollarydoos (or the regional equivalent) and paying through PayPal is going to be an option too, I'm in.
Hah, purely optional. How I yearn to have been innocent as you were, once! Netflix originally started with an ad free tier, you know!

Nothing to stop them from slowly marching benefits into this system! Plus, it is another unwarranted recurring expense in a world where those upon the top could pay for the operating costs of their company with even a slight salary cut!
Post edited October 16, 2025 by dnovraD
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UnashamedWeeb: Called it earlier:

- https://www.gog.com/forum/general/weve_added_an_optional_way_to_support_our_work/post138
- https://www.gog.com/forum/general/i_will_not_pay_a_subscription_to_preserve_games_id_rather_just_buy_the_old_games/post8

As I said, this is the final straw for me. I'm out until they remove this monthly subbing system and actually charge the proper price that these old games really cost. Good luck.
They can not ask for a proper price as long as Steam is trashing it nearly for free. Steam is simply doing the industries rule now... it can not be helped. If GOG is to pricey, gamers simply move to Steam, thats it. They do not care DRM free in usual but with some easy tools most Steam games can be made DRM free... simply how it works.

Apart from that, it is not even GOG deciding the price, the publisher instead.

If i look at on how much those new generations are paying for live service games, then those old classics are definitely to cheap. Fact is, with one single live service game the industry makes more money than with all the classics added together.
Post edited October 16, 2025 by Xeshra
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I think it should be more like $1-2/month or have regional pricing so those in poorer countries can join.

Also people can join GOG Cafe server for free, though apparently you have to get somebody with permissions to invite you.

Edit: try this invite for GOG Cafe: https://discord.gg/372vxnZ
Post edited October 16, 2025 by tfishell