Are you actually claiming daycop or is this a colourful way of saying you find this post sus?

Yeah, the forum software here leaves a lot to be desired. We persist nonetheless!

BCD/10

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I'm going to let DK elaborate before voting.

Okay, I'm well enough to read through posts and will be catching up. This post is going to be long, but that's the nature of catch-up posts. If I didn't respond to something that you think warrants a response from me. Just quote me and say something to the extent of "what about post #." I'm sure I missed some things here and there.

I started catch-up at 5pm (Pacific) so even though I'm going to be going away a few times, so I'll get it done before bed time. The reason that seizure imagery is so problematic is entirely because of migraines, migraine auras, and visual snow. These videos are from an accredited hospital in the US.

Migraines with Auras: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYjZ4qtPeoI
Visual Snow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISYJ5zoH9Ng

Oh and when I said in the prior game that I'm really, really bad with acronyms, it is partially because of visual snow. My snow level has gone back down to normal levels, but if I say anything weird in response to an acronym, do let me know.


kk - I will do so for you only because you asked nicely and said please. You'll find that I respond very well and am more inclined to do what I'm asked to do when you say please with it. Smileys help too.


No. No. You're completely mistaken here. I'm extremely lukewarm about day one random voting. This is not the same as taking a vow of abstinence from day one voting. Sometimes you can take out a mafia, but I think it is entirely luck when this happens. I don't see how anyone can reliably tell what role anyone else has on day one, and that's where my sticking point has always been. It doesn't mean that I absolutely will never cast a serious vote. You can expect some amount of reluctance.

What I said that I really hate far more than anything else is when someone appears to be making a consistent effort with every single post to not participate in any sense. You get no feeling for who they are, not even in any sort of generalized sense. In the prior game, I think I also referred to this as "I'm going to take my ball and not go home." Babark gave me that feeling in the prior game to the extent that I did seriously vote for him at one point and only withdrew that vote because someone else said that he fell under new player courtesy. In comparison, Ambiti0nZ in that game only looked like he was struggling to keep up with things due to his traveling situation.

My lack of voting in the prior game had nothing to do with views on day one votes. It was entirely because there had been a kitchen fire at my house in the evening on Sunday, where the day ended early Monday morning. This is based on my time zone, Pacific. Since we are currently on daylight savings time, this would be UTC−07:00. Meaning I didn't vote on day one of that game because of bad timing and a real life incident that caused me to withdrawal from the game, not because I absolutely will never vote on day one.


I'll have to admit that I still find the hammer thing to be a bit odd. If I understand it correctly, it's entirely a necessary evil here due to how small these games are. Before here, I only encountered big games with lots of people and whoever has the most votes gets lynched. This did result in some double-lynches.

In the prior game, I mentioned the fire once in the game thread, so it was very easy to miss. It's towards the end of the first day when someone noticed me online and not really doing anything. There's more details in the observer thread. The damage was confined to a single pot - one of those things that was far more horrifying to experience than anything else.

Fortunately, there is a fire extinguisher in the kitchen. This isn't strange if you consider that I live in California (US), where summer may as well be half the year and 80% of my backyard is a swimming pool. People do like to cook outside on grills this time of year if there are no wildfires driving us indoors, and you really should always have a fire extinguisher on stand-by when doing this type of cooking.


I had counted three votes against me - you, frost, dkkoba. (see post #34) I was 100% convinced that there was zero chance of me still being alive by breakfast the next morning regardless of what I did. My time zone does put me behind everyone else to varying degrees.

The fact that I am still alive is only proof of what I said about being wrong.
I'm rarely wrong like normal people.
When I'm wrong about something, I achieve epic levels of wrongness.


Lost Kitten Time - Questions!:
- What's a vig?
- What is an OMGUS?
- What does pr hunt mean?
- What is sandbagging?


@Joe - Thank you for explaining day cop. I was going to ask about that!


I'm voting based on DkKoba1's claim alone that he has the real actual ability to check alignment during the day time. If he clarifies that he is only suspicious and doesn't actually have this ability, then I'm going to need to withdrawal this vote and wait for more information. Anyway, it's almost 8pm now. It took me about three hours to catch up. The kidney failure cat (not the same as the diabetic cat) still needs fluid time, and I'm going to be really spent for the evening after that.

I'll be back in about 11-12 hours after the cats have breakfast.

vote detective_razza (Screeech)

Aha, I'm still awake (just about)!

1. Vig is short for vigilante. It's a town role who can pick a target to kill (usually a limited number of shots, most often only one). A normal vig acts at night, much like other roles although there is such a thing as a dayvig.
2. OMGUS is a contraction of "Oh my god, you suck!". I think it is mostly used for retaliatory votes, i.e. "You vote for me!? Well then I vote for you!" but it can also just refer to the feeling even if you don't actually vote (at least I've used it that way before).
3. PR is short for power role, so PR hunting is the act of trying to find power roles. It's often seen as a bad thing to do, since anything that becomes public knowledge in the thread can be used by the mafia.
4. Uhhh, I'm not entirely sure what DK meant by sandbagging. I'd guess they meant they weren't actively scum hunting and were just kind of treading water, but I might be completely wrong.

Given that we still have a few days to take action, the smart thing would be to make those Mafia type slips. The more we talk about things, the more they'll have to participate and the more likely they'll slip, I think.

But if we don't have a definite scumread by EoD then please for the love of everything that is holy, END THE DAY WITH A LYNCH. At all costs. If you have to end the day early, end it early, it's better than a no-lynch.


I think he's just another yogsloth. Except I'm not familiar with this version of yogsloth :D


Eh it's surprisingly active on the Day I fucking hate the most. I don't know why, the opening to this D1 looked promising but quickly died out.


Hope you recover soon!
By the way, I used to have a cat at some point, before we gave her to someone who was actually obsessed with cats. Right now I have a young dog about 50 days old and damn he's cute but a chore to raise!

ARGH the forum ate my carefully thought out post when i clicked wrong

Is this Detective_Razza or your first game on this forum? if yes, please be aware that, because of the Golden Rule, not wanting new players aggravated / annoyed / frustrated / left-with-a-bad-taste-in-their-mouths / etc, we usually (in nearly all circumstances) give new players a pass D1 and N1 so that they have a chance to experience a full turn before being eliminated from play. This has (we think) resulted in happier new players and therefore more repeat players.
Either way, this claim is Bold if scum, and perhaps appears foolish for vanilla town. You know that you will be toMorrow's Lunch if you are wrong today. I don't see this as productive unless you are sure you are correct.

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Please elaborate?
> I may be being presumptious, but I believe the post is a figurative way of saying the razza's opening post is scummy. I think we can all agree it is QUITE amusing.
Do you think DK is serious? Would you give odds (not betting) one way or the other? If so, How?
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> Are you against exiting RVS? If so, why? It's a goofy, pointless exercise at the start of the game, when there is nothing better to do.
Noo, not exactly. But it results in a friendlier game because this is when jokes are allowed that wouldn't be later on. I am in favor of letting RVS run 4-48 hours after the start of the game before someone grabs the gavel and proclaims, "let us commence with the commencing."

> But why prolong it, just because some people lurk?
Because I know how difficult or maybe frustrating it is to show up late and have everyone else scum hunting before you've a chance to hang up your hat, pull out a chair, sit down, crack open your can of pepsi, say, "hi", etc. I don't propose this phase continues after everyone ahs shown up. It's more like being courteous and not stampeding the just-arrived person. once 48 hours has passed, their absence is outside the usual rules and therefore on them.

> Do you see any benefit of a longer RVS stage for Town?
No. The only possible benefit is to the game--not ticking off players who have committed their time to being here, and who might be discouraged if they never have a chance to joke before scum-hunting (or hiding) in earnest.

> Or do you just want to postpone real discussions as far as possible, because you want Town to have less time for real discussions?
No, and I feel I ought to resent this implication (not you), and might if I wasn't so tired.

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Please explain what you mean by your last two characters "B)".

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Hero-shoot?

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Idk. I (almost) never read Lift accurately. I think it perhaps slightly odd, but perhaps just pushing for another reason.

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To ALL new players, here is a not-exhaustive list of roles that may or may not have appeared in GOG forum Mafia, and modifiers that might exist: List.

Yeah, it ate like dozens of my fabulous posts I just made, where I very insightfully analyzed everyone and said many helpful things.

Stop abusing your power and hitting on players.

For real?
I find it bit doubtful.

What do you find amusing about it?

Shush.

Nice try, bucko.


This isn't the Golden Rule. This is.




VOTE COUNT (up to #114)

detective_razza 5 - Vitek (#41), DkKoba1 (#86), FrostburnPhoenix (#89), JoeSapphire (#104), Catventurer (#107)
JoeSapphire 1 - Catte (#33)
Lifthrasil 1 - Microfish_1 (#59)
Ambiti0nZ 1 - supplementscene (#70)

Closest to lynch - detective_razza at L-2. It takes 7 to lynch.

Not voting - Ambiti0nZ, detective_razza, PookaMustard, Lifthrasil

Day 1 will end in approximately 4.5 days.

what-??? they’re literally lying, i don’t want to claim day one but i’m not mafia-?

i do have a power role but nothing that would sabotage town?

Is this really a serious Day Cop claim as Joe pointed out? Just clarification before I vote. I don't see how we don't lynch him if this is the case. Either Razza or yourself is Scum on that basis.

“B)” is my favourite emoticon, aka, the sunglasses emoji- please don’t tell me y’all are gonna read into my emoticons :’))

also this is my second game so lol yeah i don’t benefit from the day one no-vote

It's dark in here. It is scummy to wear galsses.

yup okay

unvote detective_razza

pretty confident this is town razza. It's kinda obvious DK is just being playful, but I realised I shouldn't give scum!razza a reason not to feel pressure here.


I don't know what fish might find amusing about it, but me; I found the bravado and the ridiculousness funny.