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Lifthrasil: Which cat? Catte, catventurer, Cringer or me?
Yes.

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JoeSapphire: Is there a contradiction here? I don't see it?

Catven says now that they don't like random voting stage - and in the previous game the said they didn't see any reason to vote early?
Agreed. I don't really see those 2 as direct contradictions.

That said, CatV seems a little bit too jumpy from those fairly mild questions.
Not really had time to catch up since last night, I'll read the rest and comment later. But I wanted to comment here:

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my name is racynge catte: Actually, it's not unheard of at all. All previous games are a matter of public record and if people want to analyse your previous play and compare it to the present they can.
It's referred to as your "meta" and it's absolutely fair game (but you are of course within your rights to object and refuse to answer the question as you are with any question in the game).
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Catventurer: I don't understand what you mean by meta.

If I say that I don't understand something, I really do actually mean just that.

My prior response to him was to say that I didn't understand what he was saying, resulting in him going on the attack rather than explain what he meant.
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_game_77_masters_of_the_universe_edition/post38

Also I'm extremely frustrated at the moment, so.....

Vote Catventurer only because I'm too noob and shouldn't have been allowed to play.
Listen, down be down on yourself. I think you do seem Town leaning and confused based on this post. If you're town it's difficult or sometimes impossible to figure out who the mafia players are. I've not played as many on here but even the most experienced players make mistakes when trying to figure out who the mafia players are.

So how can we figure out who mafia are? At this stage there's not much to go on. But in time there will be

Maybe a player who is acting against Town interests. They are happy to jump on a wagon (ie a player with gaining number of lynch votes) without a significant reason. Or they throw shade at a player for unreasonable reasons. Or they simply lurk and don't try to analyse what the other people playing the game are doing. If they aren't trying to solve the game maybe it's because they already know who their mafia buddies are and don't need to solve anything.

Unvote Catventurer
vote:catventure
Multiple cats in 1 game, how unfortunate.

I'm at work and mobile posting. I think the walpost guy is probably town.

Also if there's a vig pls dont hero shoot, theres likely.3 mafia and you're meant to be an extra elim for us

I dont see any good obvious answer scumteams so im assuming whoever is remaining mafia is probably being coached or is a lurker.
Just a gamestate read though
Post edited July 27, 2022 by DkKoba1
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DkKoba1: I'm at work and mobile posting. I think the walpost guy is probably town.
But who is the wallpost guy? Could be any one of us!

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DkKoba1: Also if there's a vig pls dont hero shoot, theres likely.3 mafia and you're meant to be an extra elim for us
What made you think of a vig? And why did you assume they'd hero-shoot if you didn't warn them?

Gotta say, I'm disappointed with your vote. You made me think there would be some decent explanation coming soon last night, but you didn't say anything.
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DkKoba1: I'm at work and mobile posting. I think the walpost guy is probably town.
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PookaMustard: But who is the wallpost guy? Could be any one of us!

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DkKoba1: Also if there's a vig pls dont hero shoot, theres likely.3 mafia and you're meant to be an extra elim for us
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PookaMustard: What made you think of a vig? And why did you assume they'd hero-shoot if you didn't warn them?

Gotta say, I'm disappointed with your vote. You made me think there would be some decent explanation coming soon last night, but you didn't say anything.
Check page number.
DkKoba volunteered to be vigged. Awesomesauce.
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supplementscene: So how can we figure out who mafia are? At this stage there's not much to go on. But in time there will be
Skay! Since you have Santas for your avatar, I attached a 100% realistic picture of you and me hanging out. Obviously, you're the guy on the right.

unvote catventurer


Oh and the family likes to watch this really old tv show called Colombo (which I don't get the appeal of as the plot of every episode really is "the guest star is the killer.") Anyway the episode they recorded last night "The Most Dangerous Match" and started to watch this morning has rapidly flashing colors, much like seizure graphics very early into it. I get really sick from these sort of things.

I'm going to need a few hours before I can really sit down and read posts.


This also means that I'm going to follow you around like a lost kitten for the rest of day one week.
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supplementscene: I was asking why you said my post contradicted my prior post and did not really get any clarification. I really did not think I contradicted myself. So if you can clarify, please do so in due course after you look after your cat ofcourse

Ofcourse obviously a diabetic cat with health issues takes precedence over game chat

We're also very much in different parts of the world as it is 7:43pm here and I am winding down with a few beers
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Catventurer: There's actually a total of four special needs cats in this house. They always come first. <3 I'm the hard core cat fanatic to the extent that selecting a cat role does give someone a bit of an edge over me.

Your Post #12 - "Hmmm well I've just thought, FrostburnPhoenix voted for DrKoba1 after that player voted for Joe, seems fair with no info. And then Catventurer said DrKoba1 was too keen to vote people off. Isn't that what we're supposed to do to generate debate Catventurer? Or are you a bad guy trying to build a train on a townee?"

https://www.gog.com/forum/general/gog_mafia_game_77_masters_of_the_universe_edition/post12

Let's be mindful of one thing here -
FrostburnPhoenix's post #8 really is a ninja vote. For the purpose of this discussion, let's pretend it isn't there because it wasn't when I was submitting what ended up being post #9.

At the time of my writing post #9, we have this:

DkKoba1 (post 6) - votes for Joe with no information

supplementscene (post 7) - makes a comment supporting voting for Joe without voting

Catventurer (post 9) - makes a comment that Dkkoba1 seems a bit too eager to vote people off without voting for anyone

You then start getting all hardcore serious about things and campaign for having me lynched to the extent that you're still interrogating me about it.

Why is this contradictory?

In Post #12 - You say, "Isn't that what we're supposed to do to generate debate" while at the same time, you make me feel like I did sometime wrong for wanting to generate debate over DkKoba1's vote. For the record, I don't think there is anything to DkKoba's vote other than a purely random vote.

Now let's get back to Frost post #8 and acknowledge it for the moment.

If I had saw that, I probably would have made a different post entirely. I really don't want to be going after Frost at the moment, after I went after him pretty hard in the prior game only to be so completely wrong that I couldn't possibly be more wrong. It wouldn't be fair to DkKoba to question his vote and not question Frost's.

Also for the record, I don't think Frost's vote in post #8 was anything more than "hur hur! I'm voting for the person voting first."

You're the only person that is seriously trying to start a lynching within the first few hours when day one technically can last six days.
Being the first to vote on you isn't really starting a lynching. I'm trying to critically analyse your posts and see if you're trying to shade another poster without a valid reason. So when you criticise DKKoba for a random vote, which most players do at this stage I see it as unreasonable criticism. I don't see the contradiction there at all.

You seemed to take my Post 7 seriously. I thought it was very obviously a joke.

Voting for yourself to build an early wagon on yourself seemed frankly strange. Either you're a Townee giving up or Mafia trying to deflect or invoke pity by voting for yourself. I lean that it was more of a town reaction but it's hard to gauge.

As for you being wrong about Frost in the last game, that's a big part of the game from a Townee role. Most of us will be wrong many times over in the game. It makes it all the more satisfying when you're right about someone.

Out of game Great work you're doing with cats

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DkKoba1: vote:catventure
Multiple cats in 1 game, how unfortunate.

I'm at work and mobile posting. I think the walpost guy is probably town.

Also if there's a vig pls dont hero shoot, theres likely.3 mafia and you're meant to be an extra elim for us

I dont see any good obvious answer scumteams so im assuming whoever is remaining mafia is probably being coached or is a lurker.
Just a gamestate read though
Why catventure? Is this an OMGUS because he complained about your vote? Or are you conveniently jumping on the longest wagon. I realise there isn't too much to go on as of yet.
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supplementscene: Why catventure? Is this an OMGUS because he complained about your vote? Or are you conveniently jumping on the longest wagon. I realise there isn't too much to go on as of yet.
I See them as scummy currently so I would like to hear that as well.
So unless I'm mistaken the following players below have yet to check in with us. It's not yet a full 24 hours I suppose and real life does come first.

Ambiti0nZ as Skeletor
detective_razza as Screeech

In the absense of any behaviour that seems overtly too scummy I think targeting inactive players is probably the way to go for 2 reasons. Firstly in my experience Mafia players tend to not solve and hide in the background. My second time playing a mafia role I purposely showed up a few days late because I thought it would divert attention from me. It did the opposite. Could one of these rascals be trying my not so successful tactic?

Secondly if only to hopefully wake them up and stimulate some activity.

Voting for AmbitionZ Simply for inactivity and because he's Skeletor the most evil force in the universe.
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supplementscene: Why catventure? Is this an OMGUS because he complained about your vote? Or are you conveniently jumping on the longest wagon. I realise there isn't too much to go on as of yet.
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FrostburnPhoenix: I See them as scummy currently so I would like to hear that as well.
what was the point you were making with catven's last game quote?
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Lifthrasil: Nice. Test successful, we can use character names for votes.

For now: unvote Panthor

I'll try to find a non-RVS-vote tonight.
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Microfish_1: Nice.
Also
Vote Lift
because he wants to exist RVS before everyone shows up. I think that's the case, anyway.
Are you against exiting RVS? If so, why? It's a goofy, pointless exercise at the start of the game, when there is nothing better to do. But why prolong it, just because some people lurk? Do you see any benefit of a longer RVS stage for Town? Or do you just want to postpone real discussions as far as possible, because you want Town to have less time for real discussions?
ah yeah - also meant to ask micro before -

do you think wanting to end RVS early is a general scumtell? Lift-specific? This game-specific?
why's gog forum put catte's avatar change through but I'm still waiting? making me look like a cd...

stupid hubris...
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JoeSapphire: what was the point you were making with catven's last game quote?
I Want to hear DkKoba1's reason for voting Catv first before I say any more.

Micro looks slightly scummy as well, yes.