EBWOP (last part only, the link number was wrong: 377 instead of 337, sorry):

And when I pressed him about why Maxleod was *not lonely enough* in his opinion (I think they both were on par, Maxleod even more so):
Yes, there is logic here, an odd one.

See my point? Again Dedo could be both alignments + Neutral but I can't ignore that even if I want to.

Pooka doesn't appear to be at L-1 anymore so I can place my own vote now.


vote Pooka


I will switch to Lift, if necessary, at deadline but I prefer Pooka. If somehow someone else gains enough traction me joining would depend on who that someone is. I'm open for some people for the sake of ensuring a lynch but not everyone.

Disclaimer: I haven't read anything past #775, I'll do so during my lunch break today.

11 hours left, I need to do something elsewhere, I'm not going anywhere far from PC mind you:
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20220428T21&p0=1457&font=cursive

D1: 15 players - 8 votes to lynch
#7 ZFR < Dessimu (-1 vote out of Love)
#12 Book > Joe (no lurking around)
#16 Buck > Dessimu (no love for you)
#18 Ettac > GR(Cadaver) (no reason)
#20 Carradice > Lift (no lurking around)
#29 Dessimu > Viper(Gogtrial) (how's my vote for you)
#30 Viper(Gogtrial) > Dessimu (you're Mafia)
#36 HSL > Carradice (no reason)
#49 Pooka > Dedo (got nothing better to do)

#54 Lift > Book (he voted Joe first)
#61 Viper(Gogtrial) > Yog (for failing for *meatballs* trap)
#75 Carradice > Dedo (most deserving lead)
#80 Joe > Book (for the crime of withcraft)
#83 Book > Carradice (set off warning bells)
#85 Lift > Yog (the only thing so far that rubs him the wrong way)
#99 Buck > Carradice (suggestion for newbies protection is suspicious)

#105 Micro > Lift (distancing from Yog)
#123 Dessimu > Joe (Joe is scummy)
#146 Joe > Yog (for being weird with Lift)
#147 Ettac > Joe (for realz)
#149 Lift > Joe (better lead than Yog's joke)

#159 Dedo > Lift (for now)
#164 Pooka > no one (ISO Carradice for 3 votes)
#169 Micro > Dedo (random.org)
#174 Dedo > Micro (we are past the point where randomized votes are acceptable)
#177 Lift > Micro (NO town reason to act like this at this stage of the Day)
#178 Buck > Micro (RNS does reek of someone who know who's on their side or not)
#183 Carradice > no one (he, Dedo, is reading the game and getting involved)
#192 Micro > no one (it wasn't a "serious" vote)
#193 Joe > no one (vote really didn't make any sense)

#221 Carradice > HSL (concerned about Hyper not explaining themselves)
#226 Dessimu > Carradice (a perfect candidate for lynching)

#257 Joe > Pooka (I dunno)
#266 Cadaver > Carradice (posts practically scream "Scum")
#268 Yog > Pooka (no reason)
#276 Viper(Gogtrial) > Lift (no reason)
#285 Viper(Gogtrial) > Cadaver (don't give a shit)

#303 Gogtrial > Pooka(#303) (no reason)
#319 Ettac > Carradice
#340 Carradice > Dessimu (one way to know)

#358 Micro > Book (he gives off a stronger smell than anyone else)
#365 Micro > no one (Book talked finally)
#368 Buck > Pooka (a more defined second place wagon)
#379 Dedo > Pooka (next preference which is Pooka)
#396 Micro > Pooka (to provide a viable lunch alternate)
#400 Lift > Carradice (feel forced to abandon Micro-train)
#427 Maxleod > Carradice (finally a cogent argument)
#435 Pooka > Carradice (as promised)
End of D1, Carradice hammered / Maxleod killed

***D1 wagons*** (50 posts per refresh / 350-end of DAY)
7) Vote swapping by Micro(#358), Micro(#365), Buck(#368), Dedo(#379), Micro(#396), Lift(#400), Pooka(#435):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7), Carradice(#340)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83), Dessimu(#226), Cadaver(#266), Ettac(#319), Lift(#400), Maxleod(#427), Pooka(#435)
Pooka - Joe(#257), Yog(#268), Gogtrial(#303), Buck(#368), Dedo(#379), Micro(#396)

6) Vote swapping by Ettac(#319), Carradice(#340):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7), Carradice(#340)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83), Dessimu(#226), Cadaver(#266), Ettac(#319)
Micro - Dedo(#174), Lift(#177), Buck(#178)
Pooka - Joe(#257), Yog(#268), Gogtrial(#303)

5) Vote swapping by Carradice(#221), Dessimu(#226), Joe(#257), Yog(#268), Cadaver - Viper(Gogtrial)(#285):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83), Dessimu(#226), Cadaver(#266)
Yog - Viper(Gogtrial)(#61)
Joe - Ettac(#147)
Micro - Dedo(#174), Lift(#177), Buck(#178)
HSL - Carradice(#221)
Pooka - Joe(#257), Yog(#268)
Cadaver - Viper(Gogtrial)(#285)

4) Vote swapping by Pooka(#164), Micro(#169), Dedo(#174), Lift(#177), Buck(#178), Carradice(#183), Micro(#192), Joe(#193):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83)
Yog - Viper(Gogtrial)(#61)
Joe - Dessimu(#123), Ettac(#147)
Micro - Dedo(#174), Lift(#177), Buck(#178)

3) Vote swapping by Dessimu (#123), Joe(#146), Ettac(#147), Lift (#149):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83), Buck(#99)
Dedo - Pooka(#49), Carradice(#75)
Yog - Viper(Gogtrial)(#61), Joe(#146)
Lift - Micro(#105)
Joe - Dessimu(#123), Ettac(#147), Lift(#149)

2) Vote swapping by Viper(#61), Carradice(#75), Book (#83), Lift (#85), Buck(#99):
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7)
GR(Cadaver) - Ettac (#18)
Viper(Gogtrial) - Dessimu (#29)
Carradice - HSL(#36), Book(83), Buck(#99)
Dedo - Pooka(#49), Carradice(#75)
Book - Joe(#80)
Yog - Viper(Gogtrial)(#61), Lift(#85)

1) No vote swapping:
Dessimu - Love-protection(#7), Buck(#16), Viper(Gogtrial)(#30)
Joe - Book(#12)
GR(Cadaver) - Ettac (#18)
Lift - Carradice (#20)
Viper(Gogtrial) - Dessimu (#29)
Carradice - HSL(#36)
Dedo - Pooka(#49)
Book - Lift(#54)

Players who changed their votes on D1:
1. Viper(Gogtrial) (3 times)
#30 Viper(Gogtrial) > Dessimu | #61 Viper(Gogtrial) > Yog
#61 Viper(Gogtrial) > Yog | #276 Viper(Gogtrial) > Lift
#276 Viper(Gogtrial) > Lift | #285 Viper(Gogtrial) > Cadaver
[technically there is one more vote swapping made by Viper's replacement, Gogtrial]

2. Carradice (4 times)
#20 Carradice > Lift | #75 Carradice > Dedo
#75 Carradice > Dedo | #183 Carradice > no one
#183 Carradice > no one | #221 Carradice > HSL
#221 Carradice > HSL | #340 Carradice > Dessimu

3. Book (1 time)
#12 Book > Joe | #83 Book > Carradice

4. Lift (4 times)
#54 Lift > Book | #85 Lift > Yog
#85 Lift > Yog | #149 Lift > Joe
#149 Lift > Joe | #177 Lift > Micro
#177 Lift > Micro | #400 Lift > Carradice

5. Buck (2 times)
#16 Buck > Dessimu | #99 Buck > Carradice
#99 Buck > Carradice | #178 Buck > Micro

6. Dessimu (2 times)
#29 Dessimu > Viper(Gogtrial) | #123 Dessimu > Joe
#123 Dessimu > Joe | #226 Dessimu > Carradice

7. Joe (3 times)
#80 Joe > Book | #146 Joe > Yog
#146 Joe > Yog | #193 Joe > no one
#193 Joe > no one | #257 Joe > Pooka

8. Ettac (2 times)
#18 Ettac > GR(Cadaver) | #147 Ettac > Joe [technically Ettac unvoted GR and immediately voted his replacement, Cadaver on #92]
#147 Ettac > Joe | #319 Ettac > Carradice

9. Pooka (2 times)
#49 Pooka > Dedo | #164 Pooka > no one
#164 Pooka > no one | #435 Pooka > Carradice

10. Micro (5 times)
#105 Micro > Lift | #169 Micro > Dedo
#169 Micro > Dedo | #192 Micro > no one
#192 Micro > no one | #358 Micro > Book
#358 Micro > Book | #365 Micro > no one
#365 Micro > no one | #396 Micro > Pooka

11. Dedo (2 times)
#159 Dedo > Lift | #174 Dedo > Micro
#174 Dedo > Micro | #379 Dedo > Pooka

Players who voted ONCE:
12. HSL(#36)
13. Cadaver(#266)
14. Yog(#268)
15. Maxleod(#427)
[technically Gogtrial(#303) who replaced Viper, voted once as well]

Just wanted to add to this for accurate reporting.

5. Buck (3 times)
#16 Buck > Dessimu | #99 Buck > Carradice
#99 Buck > Carradice | #178 Buck > Micro
#178 Buck > Micro | #368 Buck > Pooka

Sorry, I hadn't time to double check my report for mistakes. There were so many of them.

6 hours left!
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20220428T21&amp;p0=1457&amp;font=cursive

With time in D2 running out, figure its time to end this.

Vote Pooka

Pooka has made it quite clear that he has no intention of claiming even at L-1, I would be surprised if he walks back that decision. Im interested to see what moves both Joe and ettac make now, if any at all.

Vote Count

Pooka 6 - Cadaver, yogsloth, gogtrial, Lift, dedo, bucktooth
Lifthrasil 4 - Dessimu, HSL, Pooka, Micro
Cadaver 1 - Bookwyrm
Micro 1 - Disliked

Not voting - ettac, Joe

13 players in game. Takes 7 to lynch.

Pooka is closest at L-1

When you see a vote count, please make sure your name is shown as voting for the correct person. Let me know if it isn't.

D2 Timer:
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20220428T21&amp;p0=1457&amp;font=cursive

Can you word that differently? I can't tell if there is an error in there somewhere or if you're being ironic. I feel it's a language barrier thing and it sounds different to me from how it sounds to you.


Pooka was at L-1 for a good while. I've already stated my intention in voting him so you could have considered me on his wagon for all intents and purposes. I just didn't want to end the day prematurely. Since then people have moved away and I placed my vote a few hours ago.


Apparently I'm too nice :) On that note I'm curious why I'm your strongest town lean. It's surely not because I'm so nice.


Uhh, yeah. Sorry about that but you got it right. Let me see if I can explain this without sounding like an asshole. I think you are a good player in your own way but but dealing with you can be a lot of work and effort. You write so much and tend to pursue every little bit no matter how insignificant, unlikely or repeated it may seem to others. I recognize there is a big difference in our playstyles and that's OK. Based on what I've seen from you so far I've come to a conclusion that you are more likely Town (possibly neutral) who is trying to scumhunt but is barking up the wrong tree in my case. I don't think I can say or do anything more (at least not right now) to make you change your mind about me so I'd rather not waste my own time and energy in endless exchanges that are less likely to turn out in a proper "Aha! Gatcha!" moment and more likely to end up in a "You know what? I don't even care anymore! Screw you!! VOTE CADAVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (no votes in this post!!). Does that make sense? Once more, I don't intend to belittle your playstyle in any way. If it works for you that's great. So you are correct in your last sentence of the quote above. I just decided that it's better (for me personally) to walk away from our discussion once I felt it's unlikely to progress in a useful way any longer. For the sake of my own peace of mind and continued fun-having in the game. If I thought you were scum I would have just voted you and probably still be done with it in a similar fashion.


Caught up with page 16 (#800). Let's see how much there is on 17.

Phew! Not that much on 17.


Did you give up on Lift? Why?

IF Pooka is Town he is helping Mafia to lynch himself, another Town player, almost the same way Carradice did at the end. Pooka's late play could be summed up in a single word - apathetic. Ironic? Yes, you can say that, I'd prefer "sarcastic".

Yes, it does.

Bleh, I got carried away by Bookwyrm627's mention of PookaMustard in the group he's already gone over and read the posts of both of you as general reads lists; sorry.



Can you go find where Bookwyrm627 was very anti-Lifthrasil earlier? Because I don't see it in gogtrial34987's post #620 you referenced in your post #768. Also, I don't understand what you're trying to say in that post with "despite voting to start a 3rd wagon" in regards to him being anti-Lifthrasil, so please clarify.


For every mistake you correct, you introduce a new one *points to your vote count above*; perhaps it's time to put it aside for now?



And what if they don't?


Is that regardless of the D2 flip?


Interesting. What happened to (paraphrasing) "Lifthrasil jump on Carradice shortly after declaring him neutral is scummy'?


@Cadaver747/posts #800-801 - nice report on the progress of votes. Is there a conclusion you draw from it all?