We'll see. I personally don't have him down as scum, but I might be wrong. Pretty sure I'm not, though, else I'd be on that train already.

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I have to be off to work shortly (15 mins) and I'm pretty sure I won't be able to log in before deadline. There's enough people here that want scene lynched to avoid no-lynch so I won't move my vote.

Lift I'll try and answer you, but might be this'll have to wait till D2 (if you let me live that long ;P)

I think we are, just expressing ourselves differently again. I asked 'what makes Poppy so town' and listed 4 things she had done that are definitely not town-indicative. You pointed out that one of them is not alignment indicative at all, which is true. But that also means that it is still not town indicative. OK, the other three points look scum-indicative, so I see where the misunderstanding came from and you're right, the line you referred to is the only neutral one in the list and therefore probably shouldn't be in that list.

I don't think you are in any danger of being lynched right now. Still it would be interesting to have your reply before Nightfall if you can manage it. If you delay it to D2, you could always taylor it to fit whatever info we got from any flips. So your current opinion before any additional information would be interesting to have. But of course RL work takes precedence.

lol @ this. I'm fine with you saying I didn't post as much as others at the beginning of this game (I still won't produce massive amounts of text because of outside stuff but also general laziness/tiredness but I believe I'm a tad more involved now that there are things to talk about) but me being lurky in the secret hitler game is an alternative fact. With that said I'm not sure the two games are way too comparative as there are a lot of factors that can motivated different behavior. But if it does work for you - more power to you.

There is no misunderstanding, I got what you were saying just fine. That was still not my point, but this is neither the time nor the place to discuss it any further.


Something tells me that this is not what he meant, and if I were a cynical person I'd say that you know it too.


Curious, does anyone have a non-RL work?

Hello, don't have time to read everything right now, but I'll do what I can. What's the current vote count?

Again can I ask for a right of reply before being hammered?

Is anyone willing to move wagon? We're risking no lynch as is. My prefered lynches from these in order:

Lift
Joe
Vitek

I'd also go with Desimu but given I'm the only person who voted for him I can't see that.

Right but you weren't exactly very active. Although in that game I'm not sure that's the same advantage it is in Mafia.

I don't see any changes from last one, so I guess this one still stands:

When you see any votecount from me, please take a second to check that your name is shown voting for the correct person.

Vote count:

supplementscene - 5: JoeSapphire, gogtrial, trentonlf, Lifthrasil, dedoporno
Vitek - 3: Dessimu, Bookwyrm, SirPrimalform
Lifthrasil 2: - mchack, supplementscene
HypersomniacLive - 1: Vitek
JoeSapphire - 1: HSL

Not voting - 1: flubbucket

13 players. Takes 7 to lynch.

Yeah, I suspect completely new wagon can't be built anymore T/today.
Of those already formed I obviously have no interest in lynching Poppy and don't think LIft is good choice for today either.

I find scene to be acceptable lynch but it is not one I would be most thrilled either.
The vote on that wagon made by Joe is also quite peculiar, as scene pointed out.
It was RVS vote but Joe kept it there on basis of any lynch being better than nothing and someone pointing out contradiction in scene's posts. When it was explained by trial, Joe said there is probably something else but have not followed up on it yet.
It kind of reads like he is just riding that wagon, neatly hidden behind his RVS vote at comfortable position and it gives me pause in possibly voting scene.

Anything specific about Lifthrasil that makes you think he's not a good choice?

Regarding JoeSapphire, I'm not sure what to make of his vote. I think he did the same thing in game #53, but that's not any sort of reassurance as I've not played with him as scum.

SirPrimalform's willingness to join supplementscene's wagon with no explanation, and without having expressed any suspicions all Day, is the one giving me more pause. What do you think?

I don't have much time and I'm holding an audition after work which will probably make me miss the deadline. I'll do what I can.


It's not helping that you've let your vote linger on a stationary cart. Did you say you weren't interested in lynching clive or was that lifthrasil putting words in your mouth?

Trent's defence of lifthrasil was quite compelling for me, is that what makes you think Lifthrasil is a bad lynch for today? Didn't you have him as a suspect earlier? (Or am I getting confused? I've got no time to re-read, sorry I'm supposed to be working right now!)

scene has made multiple contradictions that a few people have pointed out - earlier you pointed out that he thought I was scum for voting him but then later said that he wasn't interested in voting me or something something (sorry no time to check). His reads seem off and he's a wagon with momentum on this day.


Vitek gives me the creeps right now.

Of course I know that too and non-RL work would be something like 'I have to get that achievement in that game' ... ;-)

Move wagon where? Are you calling for more people to switch to your own wagon to avoid no-lynch? Or did you want to achieve that people leave your wagon to some other? In the latter case your argument would be backwards.


Do you have some analysis of your own to contribute? Something beyond 'other people have pointed out that he contradicted himself'? Or are you contend to ride along on the train without putting in work of your own? That's the impression you're giving off right now. Combined with the 'why so eager' sentence from post 232 it looks a bit as if you don't care who is going to be lynched and if we lynch at all.

And can you elaborate on the creeps that Vitek is giving you? Something beyond his lingering vote on HSL?

Mostly to avoid a no-lynch but also no. When I was going back to the posts following Poppy's "I'll live" I got a bit of a buddying feel from Scene towards Flub. When I wrote about supporting his lynch it was not a preference though, I mostly just want to avoid a nolynch. I probably won't be around for EoD so I need to decide where to leave my vote.

I have cooled off on him a bit but not actually changed my mind. Would support his lynch, but as the third place wagon it doesn't look like it's going anywhere.

Vitek seems oddly coy, but nothing concrete (to add to the Poppy stuff).

*sigh*

Vote Supplementscene

hm I see you say you're not feeling it here. Maybe I'm wrong...

but then you're so passionate about his lynch you name him twice?? what am I supposed to make of this?

You're right. I didn't realise it would take this much time and energy and be this distracting when I started and I've definitely allowed it to distract me today.

I was as active as seating order allowed and other preceding factors allowed me to be. I managed to pass a fascist policy so I'd say I was among the more involved people from my team as I had the best odds of getting something through for us. I continue to disagree with your statement on that bit. Can't talk about advantages as that was the one and only Secret Hitler game I have ever played and we got kind of bad luck to begin with so I'm not even sure I played properly and/or what the proper play would have been (as either alliance, actually).


You are asking this for the second time. What exactly do you expect to happen? If you have something to say just go on and say it. Why ask twice and just wait for an answer? You're surely not banking on sudden day and no-lynch end before that happens.

I see now that SPF has put you @L-1 so I believe I speak for everyone when say "You are allowed to reply now before getting hammered". Keep in mind that you also carry responsibility for making that happen before someone decides that there is no time and hammers you.

If I remember correctly ZFR said he will give notice when the final countdown starts which hasn't happened already so you probably have time. Don't waste it.