You played fine, we lost the game as a team.

If you breadcrumb your information, you don't immediately out yourself but then if you turn up dead the next day with a flip as cop then people would (hopefully) comb your posts for breadcrumbs.

Will definitely keep this in mind for the next game. Hope to play with you again and make the right call then.

Overall, it was a fun game. Thank you for hosting Joe! (and for the nice awards) :)

I heard there is a signup for a new game somewhere.

Ah yes, should have read it this way. Perhaps if I were in the game I'd have given what he said about your attacks a second thought, but as an observer who, as I said, doesn't speak, nor has any interest in learning, the pokemon lingo, I glossed over that; it seemed to me like flavour fluff not worth putting any stock in.



No need to beat yourself up, getting fooled or reading too much into something has happened to most of us, if not all. Having said that, I thought it was a mistake to out yourself as the Commuter as it narrowed down the pool of town players for mafia to kill.



True, but that would also mean that the mafia team would have to spend their NK on the Town Cop, instead of being free to off anyone else they chose while rentering the Cop to a VT effectively, no?

As for the Cop outing themselves, I don't think I've seen any game where the Cop had an incriminating read on their hands, and didn't come out with it, regardless of what Day it was. Was there a game where they didn't?



And how many times have you seen people successfully pick up on breadcrumbs, and agree on their meaning?

You are far too kind.

Nice! :)

Uhhh.... I'll get back to you!

Seriously though, good breadcrumbs are definitely hard to pull off.

Now that I have the complete picture of the setup, two questions:

1. Why did you entertain the thought of giving the mafia Day-chat?

2. Why did the game go into Night after Vitek was lynched? There was no way for the NK to fail; town had no protective role, and mafia knew it, plus they'd never target Hunter65536 since he had outed himself as the Commuter, and I don't see anything else that could have stopped it. Am I missing something?

I don't remember any game where a cop didn't share a scum read straight away, but I don't think that's how I would play it as a cop (not unless sharing that read and securing that lynch would basically win the game).

As a cop I would always attempt to breadcrumb and set myself up for breadcrumbing both town and scum reads just in case I was killed without a chance to claim and I do think that's the way to play it.

Maybe just to see who the mafia decide to night kill (before they proceed to murder everyone the next day).

1 - to give them a chance to discuss false claims. There were a few clues in the flavour which might have helped town recognise the mafia (mafia are all 'ditto'; only pokemon that can escape the cages have powers; mafia have numbers instead of names, but there's no significant link between names) so I thought mafia might be disadvantaged if they didn't have a chance to share their thoughts and discoveries. Especially with short action phases.

2 - Because I didn't want to assume they wouldn't target hunter. Or choose to kill no-one. It wasn't really a night proper - there was only 5 hours between the bad-ass hammer and endgame. Once I knew flub wasn't targeting hunter I just got on with things.

And when that'd fail, you'd scream "you incompetent flatfoots!" post-game? :-P

Were you ever Town Cop in a game and played it like that?

Anyway, what I'm saying is that when mafia can rely on their PRs to win while town can't really, you're basically expecting town to exhibit exceptional collective play during the Day to achieve victory, and that's not reasonable, imo.

Well I don't think trent was anywhere near as likely to be nightkilled as he expected. Imagine if he'd risked waiting another day and copped lifthrasil successfully night 2? I think he would have managed it. But, as I mentioned earlier, my vision of futures unfounded is a little blurry.

Yes, trent was frighteningly accurate with his read-targets. Mchack N1, me N2... are we really so transparent to you, trent?

No one is transparent I assure you LOL. I don’t play this game the way most do, I tend to play more off of intuition. I often pull up someone’s post history in the game to see what kind of flow it has and if it seems off in reference to the game. It also allows me to see if someone is just posting to appear helpful but are not really trying to be helpful or maybe deflecting attention away from themselves. I let all that stew in the back of my brain as I go about my real life and by the time I get back to the game I’ve got some better understanding of where some people are at in my mind for town or scum.