Catventurer: I've said this before - If GOG is going to have porn games, high quality porn only please. The pervy boys that want to look at naked titties deserve to play good games too.

Let's be completely honest with each other here. Graphics are extremely important with porn games because otherwise I'm going to say that the really ancient flash game Defend Your Castle is one of the greatest pornographic games ever. There's no absolutely reason to believe that any those stick people actually wearing anything, which means that this is a game where naked stick people attacking a castle and other naked stick people defending it. What? Nobody here gets hot and bothered over stick people. Okay, then. Let's agree that graphics are extremely important then.

Let's take a serious look at some screen shots of games from Kagura Games:

https://images.gog-statics.com/27b28f7dfef3fa00f4042a7f9892a6ad0c9e45542bccd0059a824e53bfc87f81.jpg
https://images.gog-statics.com/6bc84246c4aadc3df11eb92b339855ab7ce8a7df1dc98cfbfee85aa3edfc8319.jpg
https://images.gog-statics.com/01b642f9ceb977a8c19360c4529b3cde4e2238f5349a8d75d99166a6f8e897e5.jpg

These are not the same game, but the issue is that they look like they could be the same game. Yes, I would expect that games by the same publisher to have a similar look and feel about them. However it shouldn't be to the extent that three different games look like they could be one game. There's the secondary issue in that these games are blatantly using the RPG Maker engine and while some good games have been produced with RPG Maker, it does have an association with free RPGs you can download off itch that all use the same standard assets. It makes these games look like they're using tons of prefab assets, and prefab assets look is even more so with some of the other titles.

Especially when you see things like this:

https://images.gog-statics.com/2324bbb781f8f6f19ed1b31204cab9bcf62266bd9b4be896ad173e81254fb0fd.jpg
https://images.gog-statics.com/bce19f788f3f61c6f9c2e0feca156d2419e97bc9bdf144d8df74593266439826.jpg

These two screen shots are from the same game, but I noticed that the art for the background is inconsistent. I have no issue with developers purchasing art assets, but they should make an effort to have an artistic consistency because otherwise it makes the game look cheap.... and worse than the RPG Maker stuff you can download off itch for free.

Then there is this game over here:

https://images.gog-statics.com/fdaa847e04bec6955c2863de1cf0d23aa225d2531080be0bc964336cc7d8778b.jpg

I'll be the first to admit that I'm color-blind, but those monsters really do have the look of placeholder art. It really does make the game look like they spent their entire art budget then realized that they didn't get around to finalizing the art for the monsters. Oops. It's another example of why Kagura Games stuff tends to look like cheap porn where you can find better games for free on itch.

Catventurer: I have no issue with developers purchasing art assets, but they should make an effort to have an artistic consistency because otherwise it makes the game look cheap.... and worse than the RPG Maker stuff you can download off itch for free.

Oops. It's another example of why Kagura Games stuff tends to look like cheap porn where you can find better games for free on itch.

Catventurer: Women running around being heroic doesn't fit within their world view, and they also wouldn't want men playing games where they might accidentally identify with a female character.

Elondrius: They're either not accepting any new NSFW games because of the payment processors whining, or if they do, then something else must have transpired between GOG and Kagura Games.

Xeshra: I was just checking out "itch" in order to know what i am talking about. Searching for the most popular RPGmaker "adult" games... and what i can say: If it is not complete garbage, worse than most Kagura Games, then it is rarely free. You can put in your own "amount" of money that you get from https://wincraft.casino/ you are willing to pay in many cases but if the option "i pay nothing" is chosen... all those people usually get is a DEMO, nothing else. I can not say how many coins someone have to spend in order to get a "full version", but i assume it could be at least 5 coin... not sure they accept 1 coins, as it would be hilarious and barely cover any fees.

So, yes there are surely many RPGMaker games with a quality which is around the rather low (in general) Kagura Game-level but if it is not the very least 1-2 hour gameplay junk-container... usually they demand some coins. There could be a few exceptions but surely hard to find (almost insider knowledge).

So, while i do adore your in general "open minded attitude" and your tolerance toward ANY quality games no matter if it is a "porn game", i think you are a bit biased just in order to get your point very straight.

I as well am aware of the difficulty getting a QUALITY "porn game" because it is still a strong niche and those games usually simply got very few buyers. So where is the "manpower" coming from if usually only a single dev can work on it for a limited time... else they may barely be able to survive by selling it. It is not like a porn-diva selling a real body which is being rewarded with a flood of cash... it is just a "porn game" for big minorities and fans.

So, quality usually comes with "acceptance". Remember where a usual sex toy was almost always with very bad quality and even overpriced... just because it was seen as "dirty and forbidden" kinda like hard drugs. Nowadays with a way bigger acceptance, those sex toys are increasing in quality in a pace never seen before and it is usually not shunned anymore; so it got a high acceptance in most societies by now.

For "porn games", so far this is not the case but it totally agree "their way out of this difficult spot" is to raise their quality in some way... and every single "quality adult game" should be honored, so it may become more common in the future.

Besides nope, porn and porn games are not all about looks, rather "imagination", which is something different. So, of course... not everything need to be "seen" or visualized. A good porn story could make me more turned on that some mediocre visuals which are super common.

Xeshra: Not sure i do agree... there are a lot of absolute statements that are not paying tribute to the high relativity of so many matters and the "In between" which is some fine balance always able to go in either direction; humans often are pretty ambivalent.

My view is that a lovely woman is always with a high potential of being heroic, not a per se strong woman. In fact, most men do not want a woman to be strong but they almost always want a "lovely one", which is in fact a own strength, or lets say "bonus strength" always on top of any other strength.

It does not really matter in which way she is acting "lovely"; it just has to be lovely, pretty simple in theory. Practice is always more complicated, this is unfortunately well known by me.

Those people, focusing on what they consider "love" are not having the intention to "look down on something else, be it a group or even more specific". What for?... it is not about politics but rather some "game" or "gameplay" which is simply focusing on a certain popular expression of love. It might be very awkward and with a bad taste but there is no need to put any unnecessary judgement on it. If someone, especially women, can withstand that urge... this i would consider pretty heroic by itself.

Certainly, i think, many men would enjoy playing a "heroic woman" and they even do it regularly, although they me have another sense of what it means to be heroic or even "to be a woman".

Braggadar:

Xeshra: Not sure i do agree... there are a lot of absolute statements that are not paying tribute to the high relativity of so many matters and the "In between" which is some fine balance always able to go in either direction; humans often are pretty ambivalent.

Braggadar: ... Could it simply be that GOG is attempting to balance out its catalogue? I mean customers have been noticing how many erotic games - and not particularly nuanced nor stylish ones have been flooding into GOG's catalogue over time, and it stirred up conversation over just whether or not GOG's curation team was just a bunch of horny teenagers, or were on vacation and left the curation up to one employee with zero oversight.

MarkoH01: Both numbers of course are not 100% correct since GOG does not substract deluxe editions and bundles whenever you chose to not show DLCs

gogtrial34987: GameSieve's numbers, since I do filter out editions, bundles and demos: 395 distinct NSFW games, of which 105 by Kagura (vs 5220 non-NSFW)

Catventurer: This is why I said previously that any game that allows you to play a female gendered character can be targeted at some point by this group on the basis that it presents the wrong image of how women should look and behave themselves.

Braggadar: Especially in light of recent payment processor stirrings over on Steam, they thought they needed to concentrate a little more on non-erotic games for a while.