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nightcraw1er.488: Gwent
Almost totally absolver.
To a large degree: witcher adventure game, goblins inc
For some, latest version/updated e.g. Riven (not sure if that's changed now)
For a large percentage any multiplayer
There is likely other ones and I am sure cyberpunk will be totally online only
Yes, another is Star Wars Battlefront II, they removed the version that had LAN for multiplayer, now you have to use Galaxy
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MightyPinecone: As far as I can recall, one cannot play Gwent without the client (haven't tried it though). So, all of them -1.
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OldFatGuy: Gwent is still in Beta, so it doesn't count....yet.
Who determined that?

Simple question for: Can I play without the drm client Galaxy?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
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theslitherydeee: Isn't Galaxy essential for Absolver. I thought I read that somewhere in the forums.
This is the one I was thinking of.
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john_hatcher: Simple question for: Can I play without the drm client Galaxy?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
Yes, but the cure may be worse than the disease.
Add the PS4 store to the available play methods as well.
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john_hatcher: ... Simple question for: Can I play without the drm client Galaxy?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
Depends how you define play I guess. Answer might depend on the person answering.
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john_hatcher: ... Simple question for: Can I play without the drm client Galaxy?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
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Trilarion: Depends how you define play I guess. Answer might depend on the person answering.
What kind of stupid question is that? I want to download, install and start (by double clicking on the exe file) the game and then play it. Is this possible without having the drm infested Galaxy shitware?
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john_hatcher: Who determined that?
Erm... GOG? Really the only people that matter in this debate. Almost all games with a competitive online MP experience release a beta of their online portion only (which hint requires being online) because the games need to be tested and tweaked for competive play regardless if they have a single player portion or not.

5. BETAS

5.1 As GOG.com develops, we may offer you optional access to 'beta' versions of GOG software or services (e.g. new versions of the GOG Galaxy client made available prior to its general release) or GOG content (more on that later)

Here are the rules:

a) We (or any applicable publisher/partner) will set the conditions and requirements for your beta access. Providing and maintaining a beta, and who can use a beta, is at our discretion.
b) You may be required to go through a registration process or other requirements to access the beta (and this may include you meeting eligibility criteria).
c) Betas will be time-limited and there may be extra contract requirements.
d) The beta may involve temporary or permanent server/progress/content wipes, resets or amendments.
e) The beta may be subject to confidentiality restrictions (which will be notified to you in advance if so).
f) You may be invited to participate in a feedback process regarding the beta – this is totally optional but would be really valued.
g) The beta is for your use and enjoyment, so you must not sell, loan or otherwise transfer it to anyone else.
h) The point of you getting beta access is to allow you to try something new, but we would expect you to recognise that it will not be complete yet. Therefore betas will be provided 'as is' without any additional promises from us or any liability on us if it is not complete or does not work fully or causes issues. Betas may not be totally feature-complete and there may be feature changes, modifications or removals during the beta.

We may provide access to GOG content in beta/pre-release form. For example, a publisher/partner may decide to release a game or a part of it in beta, or may join our ‘Games in Development’ program (see section 7.5-7.7. below). Any such GOG content will also be governed by these rules unless the relevant publisher specififes its own rules (which will prevail over these rules).
https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-User-Agreement

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john_hatcher: Simple question for: Can I play without the drm client Galaxy?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
And more accurate question would be: Can I play all GOG games with online multiplayer without Galaxy (or any third party service). And the answer to that question is NO and it has always been no on GOG.

Gwent's single player is GWENT Thronebreaker... and it will very likley fall under YES in your simple question like any other single player game on GOG.

I won't even argue with you with how claiming Galaxy is a "drm client" is wrong and inaccurate. To each their own.
Post edited January 22, 2018 by BKGaming
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BKGaming: Erm... GOG? Really the only people that matter in this debate. Almost all games with a competitive online MP experience release a beta of their online portion only (which hint requires being online) because the games need to be tested and tweaked for competive play regardless if they have a single player portion or not.
Ok, I was wrong in this point, but then I'm right in saying that Gwent on GOG uses drm.

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BKGaming: And more accurate question would be: Can I play all GOG games with online multiplayer without Galaxy (or any third party service). And the answer to that question is NO and it has always been no on GOG.
This might be right, but someone in the forum posted a giveaway with drm free online games, so I still am right in saying that these GOG games use drm, because there are other options which GOG doesn't care about.

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BKGaming: Gwent's single player is GWENT Thronebreaker... and it will very likley fall under YES in your simple question like any other single player game on GOG.
Do you have a statement from GOG or it is you opinion?

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BKGaming: I won't even argue with you with how claiming Galaxy is a "drm client" is wrong and inaccurate. To each their own.
Weißt du, was mich deine Meinung hierbei interessiert? Einen Scheissdreck! Und warum? Weil mir dein dauerndes Wiederholen deiner nicht von argumenten untermauerten Pro-GOG-Propaganda auf den Sack geht. Wie fühlt man sich denn eigentlich dort oben im Elfenbeinturm der Besserwisserei? Sehr gut? Dann viel Spaß weiterhin dort oben und hoffentlich fällst du nicht runter.
Or the shortened english version: I don't like your "I'm so much better and wiser than you" attitude,
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john_hatcher: Ok, I was wrong in this point, but then I'm right in saying that Gwent on GOG uses drm.
Depends on how you look at it. I can see how some can view a game needing an online connection as having DRM. But I can also see a difference in forcing an online connection to managae digitial rights and forcing an online connection because you are trying to offer a online focused gameplay. Some games are simply not designed to be offline experiences and that isn't necessarily a reflection of digital rights management .

Now to question if those games have a place on GOG is another matter... but yes you could make the case Gwent on GOG uses DRM, but you could make that same case for nearly all of GOG's catalog with how online MP is handled. GOG simply doesn't view online focused gameplay or features as DRM (based on what they release here) but instead believe all single player focused games should be free of DRM.

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john_hatcher: This might be right, but someone in the forum posted a giveaway with drm free online games, so I still am right in saying that these GOG games use drm, because there are other options which GOG doesn't care about.
I wouldn't say they don't care about it, it's just that simply that way of doing it isn't always the best way of doing it when you are for example making a competive online game. It's would be harder to for example control cheating in a true online DRM Free setting. Also game devs use Steamworks on Steam without something comparable in Galaxy simply means games would release on GOG without online play because more devs aren't going to take the time to develop their own online systems.

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john_hatcher: Do you have a statement from GOG or it is you opinion?
A CDPR dev already said the Gwent singleplayer will most likley be playable offline baring any technical issues... this was said back early in development. They have also stated the single player cards and online cards will be seperate I believe. So yes it is somewhat my opinion, but it based on what CDPR has stated... there would be no real reason to believe Thronebreaker wouldn't be like any other single player game on GOG.

Gwent and Gwent Thronebreaker are two very different experiences.... with a central theme (playing cards).

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john_hatcher: Or the shortened english version: I don't like your "I'm so much better and wiser than you" attitude,
It has nothing to do with being better or wiser... it's simply not an accurate statement. I already get to involved in these DRM debates so I would just rather avoid it.
Post edited January 23, 2018 by BKGaming
I like how the op thought he made a rhetorical question but then it turned on him.
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john_hatcher: Do you have a statement from GOG or it is you opinion?
There's no real reason Thronebreaker would need the Galaxy client, but the following statement on the Thronebreaker page makes me think it will likely be tied to Galaxy:

Getting the single player campaign also unlocks 20 new, Thronebreaker-inspired cards for your multiplayer collection, letting you take a piece of the adventure with you into online duels

I suppose it's possible that this could be covered by a key you could input into the Gwent on-line game, but I suspect Thronebreaker will be tied to Galaxy. But I'm making assumptions here as well. However, I can find no official statement yet on this.
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GR00T: There's no real reason Thronebreaker would need the Galaxy client, but the following statement on the Thronebreaker page makes me think it will likely be tied to Galaxy:

Getting the single player campaign also unlocks 20 new, Thronebreaker-inspired cards for your multiplayer collection, letting you take a piece of the adventure with you into online duels

I suppose it's possible that this could be covered by a key you could input into the Gwent on-line game, but I suspect Thronebreaker will be tied to Galaxy. But I'm making assumptions here as well. However, I can find no official statement yet on this.
Most likley this will be tied to your account because you will have to buy Thronebreaker. So buying it most likely automatically unlocks the cards online simply by using the same account.
Post edited January 23, 2018 by BKGaming
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BKGaming: Most likley this will be tied to your account beacuse you will have to buy Thronebreaker. So buying it most likely automatically unlocks the cards online simply by using the same account.
Possible. Likely there are a number of ways to do it that wouldn't require Galaxy. Of note, the ability to play off-line doesn't necessarily mean it won't still require Galaxy. But in the end, for lack of official word, we're both making assumptions.
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BKGaming: Most likley this will be tied to your account beacuse you will have to buy Thronebreaker. So buying it most likely automatically unlocks the cards online simply by using the same account.
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GR00T: Possible. Likely there are a number of ways to do it that wouldn't require Galaxy. Of note, the ability to play off-line doesn't necessarily mean it won't still require Galaxy. But in the end, for lack of official word, we're both making assumptions.
Of course but when do we ever get an offical word before release... I think it's a safe assumption to make though.
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BKGaming: Of course but when do we ever get an offical word before release... I think it's a safe assumption to make though.
I don't. Given GOG's desire to push Galaxy and the fact that Gwent is already tied to it, I wouldn't at all put it beyond the realm of possibility that they tie Thronebreaker to Galaxy as well - very likely inadvertently as they probably will overlook the fact it's 'DRMed' that way and won't even think of it.